Guild Wars 2

Hello. Writing long elaborative texts is not my strongest point, so I’ll just get straight to the point:

There’s a real problem on the European side when it comes to WvW, and that is the FR server. Why do you ask? Well, because of this: French Canadians have “homed” many of the [FR] servers, and this is very problematic in WvW. Why? Because when most of Europe is sleeping sound in their bed, these Canadians are on their prime time, and every night they cap – or almost cap all three maps. Even when there were 24hr rotations FR servers always came out top.

This is a real issue, and makes for a GREAT unbalance in WvW. Every morning and afternoon we [ENG]-EU servers have to fight just to take BACK what should be ours, before we can start challenging them. This is not fair.

If you look at the “Leaderboard” for EU, you can see that Vizunah Square is on top, and this attached screenshot was taken 5 min before I made this thread, at 04.48am +1 GMT. I also remind you that these are the TOP 3 EU servers.

Personally I think that these Canadians should be forced to choose an US home server when ‘guesting’ becomes available, so that they can still play with their french speaking collegues, but not get this insane WvW advantage.

This same issue exists with several US servers which are home to many Australian, oceanic, and Asian players.

It’s a shame that WvW wasn’t designed around 6 hour matches.

Do we have to have these threads repeated ad nauseum? Anet have said WvWvW is designed to be a persistent 24 hour battle. This is working as intended. Perhaps you could invite some Canadians to your server so you can be competitive?

Fugly.5287:

This same issue exists with several US servers which are home to many Australian, oceanic, and Asian players.

It’s a shame that WvW wasn’t designed around 6 hour matches.

Actually, the oceanic world is getting crushed by normal worlds.

Jorjeis.2169:

Do we have to have these threads repeated ad nauseum? Anet have said WvWvW is designed to be a persistent 24 hour battle. This is working as intended. Perhaps you could invite some Canadians to your server so you can be competitive?

The reason this is an issue is for this very reason. The top servers recruit the main guilds and you get a huge imbalance. Not only does it mean people leave some servers empty because they transfer to the bigger ones, it can also lead to an uneven number of dominant servers.

We have that issue now on the US servers. There are 4 main servers which means one of the servers is stuck with under matches competition.

Not everyone can be a winner. This is the nature of competition, that is also why there is matchmaking. Yes it’s unfortunate there are 4 dominant servers instead of 6 but that’s just the way the cookie crumbles. This isn’t a bug that needs to be fixed, this is up to the servers that are getting beaten to round out their WvW roster.

Oh look it’s this thread again …

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Well there’s a reason why this thread is posted so often, and that’s because it’s a real problem. Maybe Anet should wake up and adress it.

I agree there should be predefined servers for countries in the same zone.
In this context why not tag a server [CA] Canadian Canadian could accommodate and could thus honored their country, because they help the french lol (note I’m French)

Needs moar threads.

I’m on Desolation btw.

I don’t see this possible of being fixed, even if you limit servers to thier proper timezones and match them up ie americans vs only americans. Some groups/guilds can plan to stay up late just to dominate.

The format is flawed by its own open 24/7 open world design.

I don’t even see how other games could have fixed this and I think other wvw games will have the same problem.

I do think something needs to happen to outmanned that makes you becomes stronger so smaller forces have a better chance vs the larger forces.

However, the game just needs new formats, ie gvg. Which is what guildwars was and should be with these spve and wvw as casual formats.

The only real fix for this problem is to limit the amount of all players to the lowest server population currently playing each map, and that couldn’t really happen, it could, but it would take a balancing of the servers populations and a lot of people would be doing transfers.

The interval between each point where you gain score for your world should bias peak times for that server location.

Example European servers:
Peak time 17:00-00:00 the score ticks every 5 minutes
Offpeak time 00:00-17:00 score ticks every 15 minutes

Total peak time ticks = 7 hours * 12 ticks per hour = 84 ticks
Total off peak ticks = 17 hours * 4 ticks per hour = 68 ticks

This way you avoid wrong timezone players having an excessive advantage and put more focus on the time when the average player is competing.

This thread… so unique and full of insight! Really wish the mods would more heavily moderate these French-centric whine threads.

Seno.4930:

Oh look it’s this thread again …

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LMAO… honestly

No its because people get tired of it real fast and want to let Arenanet know there is a problem.

You guys dont seem to understand that, but for Desolation and Farshiverpeaks this song is already real old, and it continues for 4 more days.
And maybe another full week as we are still second place and we are already #2 in EU, so……..

But for you guys it seems fun

Expect many more posts of this in the upcomming days.
I bet if we need to do this another week many more will quit.

You know we already fight with around 100 people less in WvW ? 100 people seem to just stand afk somewhere gathering / jumping puzzle / making french jokes.

We lost Durios 15 min ago to Desolation – 15/20 people was our main force…go figure.
Far Shiverpeaks = tired of it and can say its likely to boycot WvW at this point by queueing and /afk

I cannot speak for our whole server offcourse, but 20 man is our main pvp force atm, maybe 30/40 tops no idea where all the other are inside Eternal….

I think the problem will eventually solve itself. Looking at your screenshot, which team is having the most fun?

Answer:
None of them are having fun. One team has 1 tower and that’s the only significant holding anywhere. How can green, which owns everything, have fun? What’s there to do? What’s going to provide them with karma, XP or gold?

Eventually they will get bored and quit and the game will balance.

Or they will get bored and switch servers, realizing that the profit isn’t in “winning”, but rather, it’s in “fighting”.

But the second options assumes they have some intelligence. Most gamers are not that smart. They’ll declare “GW2 is boring! I quit!” and until populations balance and the remaining people have fun.

NA servers have a lot of euro’s or other regions as well. Several servers are much stronger in the middle of the night then during peak hours.

I like the idea above about changing the point tally rates in off hours for that particular server.

Jorjeis.2169:

Do we have to have these threads repeated ad nauseum? Anet have said WvWvW is designed to be a persistent 24 hour battle. This is working as intended. Perhaps you could invite some Canadians to your server so you can be competitive?

ArenaNet is confused about their own game when they call WvW “persistent”.

WvW will reset every 2 weeks — it is in no way persistent.

Thus, further dividing the 24 hour cycle into three scoring periods (for example) will break no great principle of “persistence”.

Seno.4930:

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Everyday until we like it it seems.

Those threads appear since this is a problem getting on a lot of peoples (in fact, majority of peoples) nerves.

It was pointed out to Arena, that this will occure length before the game release in BWEs – they did not do anything to address it and here you go, as predicted: enraged community and people frustrated with wvw.

Jorjeis please stop using expensive words when the rest of your post had the intelligence of a dropped on the head donkey.
Dont like to read people cry’s for assistance ? dont click the thread.

It has nothing to do with canadians / star trekkers in the night or Nasa releasing Aliens whatever.

Its about making WvW fun for everyone involved.
This can be achieved with balance, something that is being worked on hopefully.

Getting roflstomped for 24 hours aint fun getting roflstomped for 7 days is even worse getting roflstomped for 14 days is /rage quit uninstall GW2.

Anet needs to make sure that servers who contain 2 diffrent time zone’s or have alot of people who play at night matching other servers who do the same.

People lose interest in WvW and are still queueing but just go afk when they are inside.
Using up slots for people who wanne WvW even with a massive imbalance between day and night.

Seriously seems we need to merge our USA/ Aussies brothers to Europe or we migrating to USA if you want to have balance inside WvW.

Anets need to take lead in this or players keep jumping and quiting and jumping and quiting.

Wouldn’t the reverse also be true? While there asleep u can cap the map? There’s nothing unfair if this applies to both sides.

Can’t believe there is still people who take that “Hebrew-Canadian-Guild Troll” seriously, no wonder you’re here whining…

I’m from Desolation and I don’t feel too bothered about this. Sure it sucks that we can never be top since our 24h coverage isn’t up to par, but at least there’s a lot to fight for. I never liked seeing the pie covered wholly by our server in other matchings because it always meant that there’d be less interesting fights going on. Hopefully things will balance over time but it’s not the end of the world as it is, it’s just a tougher fight for us.