Guild Wars 2

Hello guys,

I have been in WvWvW alot recently and all I seem to hear is " we suck " , " omg we are just a mindless zerg with no direction " etc etc. This is all just PuG nonsence.

So from now on, [SVSL] is going to try and make a stand and get the smaller guilds to unite into one. Start working as a organized group and have the server follow.

If anyone would like more info please reply / pm or talk to me ingame @ Camm.

Thanks, Camm

From Desolation wishing you all the best with your endeavour, it’s a tough job trying to pull a server together, props to you for taking the initiative.

The thread title reminded me of those kitteny anime they advertise on every DBZ dvd.

Actually, I’m very happy that you’re doing this. My guild was wondering why noone did it, but we ourselves are far, far too small to make any kind of impact. So thanks :-)

From what I’m seeing, Gandara players are actually quite decent, but we lack proper organization because most guilds don’t communicate with each other (Server subforums please?).
Last night we ran around with one of our few commanders (actually the only commander I’ve seen yet) and capped lots of stuff with a small strike team, only to be zergpwned by hordes of French and Spanish over and over again. Imagine what we could do with constant proper organization!
Unfortunately, we simply lack the manpower to stand against those mindleskittenazergs, especially at night, but when word spreads, maybe some nightguilds will transfer to us :-)

So far we have had two small guilds merge into us! Tonight we were running + holding the Gandara borderland. Against two large zergs from Underworld and Abaddon. The problem is we need more members to join us so we can actually start working on a larger scale.

For anyone else who would like to get in contact jump on our TS ( which now has public WvWvW rooms! ) or like I said earlier check website www.sv-sl.com / pm on here / give me a shout in game!

Thanks, Camm

P.s Thanks for the feedback JiaYow and MarzAttakz !

Decent start to this week but like always we tend to lose out when it comes to overnight play, Looks like the Germans have quite a big night crew this time.

Right now our strongest playtime is between 18:00 – 1:00. After that we tend to lose everything.

Started running a night group myself the past week to try and minimize the amount of points we fall behind. We generally have enough people to hold every point on one map but we need more people to have a chance at the other maps.

There also seems to be quite a few trolls that shout for help at empty keeps or decide to start flame wars in chat, Would be really nice if people started ignoring these people instead of reducing moral and clogging chat up with arguing.

Turns out we have a really strong night group this week compared to the other servers, Germans logged off after capping underworld borderlands.

Camm,

I’m at work at the minute but I will sort something out with my guild tonight and join the ranks of the more organised train. I will be online from a round 8:30pm.

Or if I forget for whatever reason /w me @ Zhalenza

I agree with you Dairdel. Hopefully my guild will be able to get one of our WvWvW leaders to commander shortly which would be awsome for our server!

Zhala I am afraid I cant get on tonight got some real life stuff I need to sort out , but I have someone getting in touch with you.

Thanks, Camm

Camm,
My guild is a very small, but we’re active and quite experienced in multiple pvp-oriented games. Unfortunately, we won’t be able to merge into your guild since we would like to retain our sovereignity, but it would be an honor to coordinate our efforts with yours. If you would like to start a WvWvW alliance in Gandara, count us in. Anyway, if you have time (seeing that you aren’t here tonight), please /w me @ JiaYow and let’s see how we can work together.

Dairdel.2849:

There also seems to be quite a few trolls that shout for help at empty keeps or decide to start flame wars in chat, Would be really nice if people started ignoring these people instead of reducing moral and clogging chat up with arguing.

This plus queues are the reason my guild chose to leave.

Good luck to Gandara, I think the server has great potential if the arguments can be squashed.

Just an update for everyone. My guild is growing at a amazing rate and we are always looking for more members to join the ranks. We have recently got a new TS server which we have made public for all Gandara members to get on.

go to www.sv-sl.com for more info on the TS or the guild.

PM ingame on either Camm or Mike Oxxlong.

Cheers, Camm

As Gandara thread if I may be so bold and add as a general note for all guilds that please do not claim a fort or a keep unless you are planning on running a art of war buffs as it inhibits everyone else as you have claimed the location to do so. I know that having your guild banner out looks cool and all, but please if you gonna claim stick a buff up, +40 vitality or something at least or do not claim the location.

- Shadow Mechanic – RK

Aren’t you guys already like miles ahead of both your competitors thanks to your night-capping skills?

Guys I’m from Desolation and I’ve been trying to do the same thing! Don’t give up, I admire what you’re trying to do and I’ve actually been thinking of transferring to Gandara. (Whats the server like?) Yesterday I was insulted and shouted at by almost everybody for asking a guild to un claim a keep so that a guild with buffs could claim it. They eventually did however but then decided to claim it again.

Dee Jay.2460:

Aren’t you guys already like miles ahead of both your competitors thanks to your night-capping skills?

Apologies if incorrect – I seem to recall seeing you posting about being on Desolation?

From the time I was on Gandara and they were fighting Desolation – they have an active night crew, BUT Desolation had more. The first day Gandara would get queues until say 3am, the next it was 1am, the next it was 11pm… as people learnt that staying on at night was futile.

Desolation had the strongest night presence of any of the servers met at that point.

That’s exactly right.
Gandara was once a very powerful server (like top5 iirc), but the free server transfers almost completely broke us, like many other servers.

You can clearly see Neandramathal’s point in the queue-size screenshot posted by ANet (https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/6487/Gandara.PNG). Since we were ranked high, we constantly got matched with mass-population servers like Riverside and Desolation. We fought Desolation like half of the time in the first two weeks. We were many, they were more.

Of course, most major guilds and alliances moved on to Desolation and co., gifting them their wonderful queues, while leaving desperately fighting “loyal” players behind. We are active and decent, but lack the organization of big guilds to reach to our potential. Yesterday night was the same, we had a big zerg, but no idea where to go. 4 people had ideas of what to do, neither of them bad. Whom to follow? At last, one commander came online, and … went straight into the jumping puzzle.

So yeah, I think we have the potential to be ranked better, and are now playing against servers that are even more struggling than we are (I here UW has lags too…), but we’re far from “being miles ahead”. That’s something that will be true in the future ;-)

Hey guys I’m on Desolation and I’ve been thinking of transferring to Gandara, Gandara is considered to be an unofficial uk server if I’m not correct? You guys might have read my forum on trying to get Desolation organized, I made a guild to try and help accomplish that but ‘bigger’ guilds besides IRON aren’t really doing much nor are friendly to help smaller. Yesterday a bunch of GG (Blue sun with wings emblem) guildies claimed a keep TWICE without any buffs and I’m losing hope on helping organize Deso. Do you guys think that I’ll be able to succeed on making a WvW guild on Gandara? BTW almost all players on Deso don’t defend camps until they’re gone or like defending in general. and I hope you guys aren’t the same towards it

Hej Kobra,
i was playng on Gandara for some days and trust me its worse here than on Deso, if you want nice community go to GH ( Sorry Gandara guys! )

But problem with defense it on almost all servers people just think its give you nothing and tbh they give you more xp/karma/silver/fun than attack and loose tactic.

Hey Gandara Guilds. Sorrows Furnace Wants you. Yea. We want you! you are wanted! contact me. <3

We at Gandara have been getting better as of late I’m glad to say but we do have a LOT of room for improvement. Our community isn’t too bad now anyway after most of the annoying people transferred off. (Advantages of losing )

Our night crew is not exactly the best but is improving due to the efforts of Commander Dairdel and of course everyone else out there during the night.

But it’s awesome to see someone out there attempting to get some sort of coalition going on out there. I’ll talk to my higher ups in Drakensong and see if we can organise something

Wow the only guy that responded to me said don’t join Gandara :P

Why are people on gandara giving out about deso nightcappers and massive Qs, you realise we have 0 queues now pretty much, bar weekend prime times lol. Aint for about 10days+

And dont talk to us about nightcappers, try play V the french servers, yous have no idea lol

Kobra, obviously we on Gandara would invite every competent player to our server, needless to say :-p

Ashanae, I’m sorry you didn’t like Gandara. There are of course always trolls and black sheep, on every server. But overall I feel the community on Gandara is quite mature and troll-free. Obviously it’s hard to “control” PuGs without commanders and guilds, and the reward system (like, you get tons of stuff for chain-capping, but not quite as much for defending) doesn’t help. But that doesn’t mean that Gandara people are unfriendly. They just don’t have proper leadership. For example, the moment our famous commander Dairdel appears in WvW, everyone instantly listens and pays attentions and contributes.

Its not like i don’t like Gandara i’m just pointing to Kobra ( i played on both gandara and Deso servers ) he will not find here nothing more than on Desolation atm.

Hello guys,

Really sorry but I have been busy of late, but now I am back and lets get down to buisness.

QTRKOBRA.1827 – In my honest opinion Gandara has kept alot of good players and lost alot of its whinners and trolls which makes it a good mature server to play on.

Also regarding to the people not wanting to defend only capture. I personally havnt had this trouble with the groups I have been leading since where we go people tend to follow.

Ptk.2736 – Please move on.

KinkyWarrior.1879 – I agree our night team isnt the best but it is getting ALOT better.

Ashanae.9362 – When you say the community on Gandara is worse than Deso , can you please tell me when you were on the server ?

JiaYow.9327 – I totally agree with you mate . I honestly think Gandara has some great pvper’s and we are more than capable at taking on larger teams, but like everyone has mentioned people dont want to do anything unless they have been told to.

Cheers, Camm ( will respond to all ingame mails today )

Thank you for the replies guys, If I wanted to make a WvW guild on Gandara or join one which Borderland would I find potential members?

@Camm i transfered from Gandara like 4-5 days ago.

Hmm well night capping and getting overrun by germans, french or spanish isn’t very nice though I myself play it for fun and don’t care AT ALL our world ranking…

Element Zero (Gandara) makes few/several parties almost every evening for 3-5 hours (GMT 0 , 19:00-XX:00 ~) and we usually steam roll TACTICALLY almost anyone – unless we are overrun by zerg (since there are usualy 10-15 of us, we preffer smaller parties and sometimes even split and cause mess at camps)… If only more guilds were capable of doing this, getting most of the points in all borderlands AND eternal battleground for just several hours daily is enough..

Zerg is a good thing, but only for taking keeps or castle.

Keep in mind – if there is a zerg somewhere, that means almost every player of that server is moving with it – leaving most of the points undefended…

Yup EzO, I’ve seen you around doing some good work. Dairdel I definitely recognize, not sure about the other commanders. I’ll remember to look for you too, Camm.

QTRKOBRA – things pretty much change on an hourly basis, as long as you spend some time on WvW and communicate you’re bound to find some likeminded folks.
Edit: Your character is Sythus? I think I’ve seen you. I’m running Talleyrand, by the way.

Communication on these forums could start paying dividends too

Evening All,

I’m the Guild Leader or should I say ‘Bugged Guild Leader’ of Element Zero or {Ez0}. It is true we go in daily and are growing in numbers. Usually I liase in Teamchat while our Commander Aellox leads our troops.

Clearly we want to get more involved and would welcome moves to do just that. or site is www.ez-guild.com so feel free to PM honvik on that site. I’d go more but I’ve got this horrible bug atm where I cannot accept whispers, do whispers, see my guild etc.

Cheers

Giok

Desolation is terible un-organised server where losing big time. Big guilds are not doing much on desolation WvWvW on deso seems only getting worse:(

Ofc things goes wrong on Desolation when players are not lead by no one and even at peek hours we get outmann buff and stuff like GoD = Guardians of Desolation guild raids the keep supply to build Dummy targets for the enemy trebuche , Desolation will go down in ranks and then maybe they will lern to act as they should.

Xard Waves at Honvik

Just a heads up. Tommorow night at 1am GMT when the servers reset ( WvW ) I will be leading SVSL into the Gandara Blds. All that want to join please talk to Mordorian or Jayn in game or jump on our TS at www.sv-sl.com.

Thanks, Camm

My biggest gripe with WvWvW (am in Gandara) is that defense is just not happening – probably because there is no incentive to defend and the end result is always being overrrun by the zerg.

Once and only once so far have I participated in a successful defense. The enemy broke through the gate but we managed to defeat them at the lord.

Tom Gore unfortunately that happens in a lot of servers including mine. But the problem is that people would rather re-capture a camp than defend it. Which is why a lot of people have stopped purchasing upgrades.

Yes. I wrote a suggestion thread of fixing this problem by introducing siege camps and realistic supply lines, but it got buried under dozens of 2-line “suggestions” in a few hours without anyone even replying to it.

Guess people are content to just zerg and collect rewards.

Gunnar’s hold is always looking for decent guild. Small is fine.

I understand that people not defending is a problem, but when we are online we have a large enough group to hold off most zergs so we happily defend. We arnt all about getting Karma + Gold, we are working on the larger goal.

Also can I make this clear for all other people posting on here, This is not a Recruitment Post for other servers! so please move on.

Thanks, Camm

Even if Baruch Bay does own the map, some memorable moments tonight for the team on Gandara.

BB’s claim was short-lived. We will triumph over the foolish Frenchmen and the Spaniards!

All Gandarans, come and fight for your World!

For all those interested.

Tonight we will be running a large group for server reset.

We will be in Gandara Blds for reset for defence.

For TS details please go to www.sv-sl.com

The new TS allows for more people to join, we have had alot of interest already in joining. So come along for a great night.

Thanks, Camm

Talked to Camm and Pyran [pyrn] another small guild, but focused on WvW is willing to cooperate with others and try to contribute.
Would really like our community to get together and become close-knit so we can dominate even more.
Like I mentioned in LA tonight, it would be great if there was either Server subforums or at least, an unofficial Gandara forums that’s well known, so we can all talk and organize over there!
I think someone mentioned to me it might happen, though we’ll see how that actually pans out.

Yeah, designating unofficial forums would be fantastic. It seems that standard practise for guilds is that forum registration = guild application. Even though I’m usually rolling with different groups on WvW, I like maintaining my independent tag.