Guild Wars 2

You understand that when you surrounded with 20 allies inside your Keep and the only decent team player that comes and revives you is the NPC Merchant…

Not even talk about the people that gets on W vs W and stay afk and prevents people that actually wanna play to do so…

There are not a lot of organised groups in Gandara but it didn’t get such a high rank (top 5 AFAIK) by being mindless zerglings. I know that certain people recently got the CC so maybe that works to control all the randoms a bit. We are doing “ok” at the moment in W3. Very balanced pie chart but Gunnar’s Hold was smart and went on a killing spree when the weekly match started, getting a big advantage early on.

Also, why do you expect so much from randoms? Start a W3 guild or something and educate people. You can make a difference aswell.

If Blacktide stops attacking us then maybe both of us would have a chance against Gary’s Hold. >.>

Gary’s Hold?

Who’s Gary?

He is the creator of Gerrys’s Mod and now i got his own castle in the battles

I wouldn’t say our teamwork is the worst, but it sure isn’t the best. With that said I have seen some awesome teamwork done by Gandaran guilds. For E.g. Song , NDA, Oath, Yijo(?) members using the jumping puzzle in the borderlands (Blacktides) as a ‘rebel cave’, striking out and taking Woodhaven and surrounding camps simply to annoy them for a bit, before swooping down and taking Ascension Bay by busting in through the northern gate, picking up some Ban members, initiating Dolphin mode through the water and killing the lord with nout resistance.

I suppose the jist of what I’m saying is this; Get a guild! Otherwise yea, would be cool if the random people could co ordinate

KinkyWarrior.1879:

IFor E.g. Song , NDA, Oath, Yijo(?) members using the jumping puzzle in the borderlands (Blacktides) as a ‘rebel cave’, striking out and taking Woodhaven and surrounding camps simply to annoy them for a bit, before swooping down and taking Ascension Bay by busting in through the northern gate, picking up some Ban members, initiating Dolphin mode through the water and killing the lord with nout resistance.

Thanks we will look for them doing this.

Yous sincerely,

Gunnar’s Hold

You weren’t in the first place o.0? That northern gate is always overlooked. I always check the back door.

TBH and DBS have had quite some succes past weekend. Saterday we took Bluebriar by keeping them off of supplies for long enought, and held it for a good 2 hours.

Then yesterday, we took Garrison on Blacktide Borderlands a few times, held it for couple of hours aswell.

But there is only so much 2 10-15man teams can do. If only we had an active community forum to get some alliances, and contacts from other guilds.
It just seems there are alot of small skirmisher groups going, and even though it might be for the best if people followed directions, you can’t realy force anyone into this. It is in the end, a game they themself want to play as they want.

But i think this is the main problem on Gandara, to much small guilds, no unity.
And then there is this mass amount of AFK-ers.. guildies even had 30+ min queue’s yesterday, with some not even getting in at all. Kinda makes it hard to have an impact if half are in a queue (but i guess thats an issue alot of servers have lately, like increase the number of players on your server, but not increase the WvWvW player cap..)

We also have activity problems when it ain’t prime time. This morning i had no queue’s on any of the maps. Let me tell you, this is different on the big servers! They have 24/7 coverage.

During prime time, we manage to hold and the battle seems very balanced and fun. But during the off-hours, they simply win with numbers.

Guy doesn’t get a res ones —→ runs to the forums.

Oh my…

It seems that of the 3 servers , none has a nighttime team f note.

Blacktide night time does seem to be 4 hours before the others though as they have a high russian population.

This seems to balance out as they also seem to go to bed.

On Gunnar’s there is a significant logout as midnight approaches on weekdays.

That’s true. With that said though I do believe Gandara has the worst of the three servers. On Saturday I logged on in the morning to see a mainly Gunnars dominated map. On Sunday I logged on and saw a mainly Blacktide dominated map. I can’t comment since though. So I have no idea if we did something then but I can’t comment.
With that said, I am really enjoying the match up so far as it’s very even and the fights have been awesome.

Yes the fights have been very good.

It seems the match up in approaching balanced.

I think Gandara is doing pretty good.
Don’t forget that the game has been released less than a month ago and there are a lot of ppl still exploring, trying out stuff and learning the mechanics.
In WvWvW we are doing good during prime time. The problem is during the morning and at night when Gunnar’s Hold seems to have big forces fighting while Gandara and Blacktide have a lot less people fighting. That’s when GH is doing most of the points that gives them the advantage they now have.
With that said, we certainly need more coordination between guilds and alliances, but I am sure that will come with time.

I was enjoying wvw less and less on Gandara.
Too many times people would let the garrison or keep get taken so the could take a random tower.
The same few people carried supply and all in all the team work was awful apart from the small few trying their best. You wouldnt have rams or supply for an inner door if u didnt bring it yourself. People would try to lead and jsut get abuse from others. It was pretty stressful.

I swapped server with my guild and the first thing I saw was everyone queueing at a supply camp as it was captured to get supply for the next attack….Then i noticed there was 2-3 commanders per map! I hadnt seen one on Gandara. The first keep attack i was in, they didnt just zerg a door but moved as a mass tactically and then had 3 rams for the inner door….the inner!! Ive not seen a single keep where they havent had supply. Gandara it would happen all the time. People wasting rams on a population who thought that side of the game was someone elses job to do.

The server I moved to is ranked closely with Gandara with about half its population but its a ton more fun to play on. I dont care about total rankings so im happy here. Sadly Gandara in my opinion is currently being carried by its larger population. Unless a guild steps up to the plate to take control of wvw I think its going to be quite painful for you.

Gl and all the best. I will enjoy capping that Garrison whilst your mindless zerg leaves it to take Redbriar :P

Arma.3487:

I think Gandara is doing pretty good.
Don’t forget that the game has been released less than a month ago and there are a lot of ppl still exploring, trying out stuff and learning the mechanics.
In WvWvW we are doing good during prime time. The problem is during the morning and at night when Gunnar’s Hold seems to have big forces fighting while Gandara and Blacktide have a lot less people fighting. That’s when GH is doing most of the points that gives them the advantage they now have.
With that said, we certainly need more coordination between guilds and alliances, but I am sure that will come with time.

GH do take quite a lot of points in prime time as well, as visible over the last couple of days.

Just because there’s some taking the ‘off hours’ as well (no idea how many/big population is around at that time), does not mean it’s where we get the advantage.

During Prime Time Gunnars Hold are often at the top of the points.

The server also has a lot of ‘mature’ players who log off because they have work in the morning. At midnight we lose most of out players until 5 pm. this is of course over about 3 time zones.

Must have just been a bad time for you, I actively revive people and I see people doing it all the time, reviving is the new raid healing.

We do have a limited uptime for RvR most people do seem to logoff early, last night for example there were 4 of us defending SH in gunnars hold borderlands vs a full zerg that you would expect at prime time, still managed to kill a few so thats something.

We are actively playing in WvW if you want to make a difference and run with an organised group gimme a shout ingame, we are always looking for more team players.

IDarko.4709:

There are not a lot of organised groups in Gandara but it didn’t get such a high rank (top 5 AFAIK) by being mindless zerglings. I know that certain people recently got the CC so maybe that works to control all the randoms a bit. We are doing “ok” at the moment in W3. Very balanced pie chart but Gunnar’s Hold was smart and went on a killing spree when the weekly match started, getting a big advantage early on.

Also, why do you expect so much from randoms? Start a W3 guild or something and educate people. You can make a difference aswell.

So, you didnt get up to top place just because of being one of the most populated servers in EU? How do you explain your recent match against us then?

Sadly, what Epoch described really seems to be the case. Haven’t had any issues with people not reviving me, but they are slow to build siege (even when a blueprint has been placed) and tend to run mindlessly to their destruction while forgetting everything around them. We had a large group commit suicide today trying to “spawn camp” Blacktide. I’ve also seen a group of 20 people attacking the southern outer gate of Dreaming Bay from inside instead of attacking the inner gates. Of course, this didn’t continue for long, because Gunnar’s Hold came out and killed them from behind.

There have been some good moments as well, there was a commander the other day on Gandara Borderlands and people were following his directions, information was relayed fast and people went where they were needed. We were even leading in score (not total, but for the moment) for the few hours I was in WvW.

I haven’t spent that much time altogether in WvW yet, but I haven’t come across any guilds from our server. I already know 2 from Blacktide and Gunnar’s Hold though, that seem to have a presence during the same relative time on the same maps. I just hope that more people don’t take Epoch’s approach and just decide to abandon ship and I hope that one day we’ll get more guilds interested in WvW and better organization.

Puggies are useless on any server.

Well, not useless I guess. They make great cannonfodder, and an extra sword or gun on the battlefield is always welcome. In the grand scheme of things though they tend to have little impact. Puggies mostly tend to fight other puggies in a tug of war that lasts hours and has no real victor.

Occasionally you get the brave soul that manages to rally the puggies and turns them into a semi-organized zerg that stampedes over everything in their path, but overall they’re mostly just people who turn up when you’ve already won and who stay away when you need them the most.

I realize that might sound offensive to pug players, but it’s really true. The best advice I can give is to join a good WvW guild/alliance and experience WvW as it was meant to be experienced. I guarantee that in a week’s time you’ll be telling other people the same thing.

All i can ask is that guild who want to win WvWvW on Gandara need to step up and start contacting one-another.

TBH has already teamed up with DBS to get a greater pressence, but we sure can use more who are up for it.
We’ve had a nice evening last night, which you can read all about on our front-page (http://tbh.org.uit.no/).

If you are a guild leader/alliance leader or even just a single individual that wants to join the battle, feel free to contact me in-game.
I am realy up for getting more guilds together, so don’t hesitate!

Xandax.1753:

Arma.3487:

I think Gandara is doing pretty good.
Don’t forget that the game has been released less than a month ago and there are a lot of ppl still exploring, trying out stuff and learning the mechanics.
In WvWvW we are doing good during prime time. The problem is during the morning and at night when Gunnar’s Hold seems to have big forces fighting while Gandara and Blacktide have a lot less people fighting. That’s when GH is doing most of the points that gives them the advantage they now have.
With that said, we certainly need more coordination between guilds and alliances, but I am sure that will come with time.

GH do take quite a lot of points in prime time as well, as visible over the last couple of days.

Just because there’s some taking the ‘off hours’ as well (no idea how many/big population is around at that time), does not mean it’s where we get the advantage.

It’s were you get the BIG advantage. Yes you do fight well and you’re often winning during prime time but with a little advantage on the others. Out of prime time you often own almost everything and that’s when you get the tens thousands of points of advantage you have.

I’m not saying you’re cheating or something. The game is a persistent world so it’s perfectly legitimate. You did well building a server where there are people playing WvWvW at any time of the day.

Skuzz.6580:

All i can ask is that guild who want to win WvWvW on Gandara need to step up and start contacting one-another.

TBH has already teamed up with DBS to get a greater pressence, but we sure can use more who are up for it.
We’ve had a nice evening last night, which you can read all about on our front-page (http://tbh.org.uit.no/).

If you are a guild leader/alliance leader or even just a single individual that wants to join the battle, feel free to contact me in-game.
I am realy up for getting more guilds together, so don’t hesitate!

You are not alone
There are other guilds that are trying to organize alliances and make tactics.
I am one of the Lupi di Wotan (LdW) italian guild GMs and we have formed an alliance with other italian guilds on the server.
At the moment we are trying to coordinate between us italian guilds, then we will surely try to extend coordination with other guilds.
I’ll contact you for sure.

I think we have to be patient. The game has just started. We need to build a good community but it will take some time.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Current-world-rankings

go there look at the bottom then complain when you are on FoW server……..

im driven mad with this kitten server

I must say I have enjoyed most of the days play on our present match up.

Some times i see stupid things going on and the mindless zerg on gandara. The main problem is the organised guilds are small in members but there are quite a few. I know at the moment an alliance of guilds is in the pipeline with a shared vent. This should help with getting bigger organised groups together.

Blacktide do seem to have a greater degree of organisation.

Organization is not something that borns by itself.
If we want it we need to all work together to achieve it.
And it’s not a simple task.

What I can say is that with my guild we have first tried some WvWvW action by ourselves (to learn some mechanics and organize internally) and this week we started to work with the alliance with good results.

Don’t dispair, and keep up the good work!

Arma.3487:

Xandax.1753:

Arma.3487:

I think Gandara is doing pretty good.
Don’t forget that the game has been released less than a month ago and there are a lot of ppl still exploring, trying out stuff and learning the mechanics.
In WvWvW we are doing good during prime time. The problem is during the morning and at night when Gunnar’s Hold seems to have big forces fighting while Gandara and Blacktide have a lot less people fighting. That’s when GH is doing most of the points that gives them the advantage they now have.
With that said, we certainly need more coordination between guilds and alliances, but I am sure that will come with time.

GH do take quite a lot of points in prime time as well, as visible over the last couple of days.

Just because there’s some taking the ‘off hours’ as well (no idea how many/big population is around at that time), does not mean it’s where we get the advantage.

It’s were you get the BIG advantage. Yes you do fight well and you’re often winning during prime time but with a little advantage on the others. Out of prime time you often own almost everything and that’s when you get the tens thousands of points of advantage you have.

I’m not saying you’re cheating or something. The game is a persistent world so it’s perfectly legitimate. You did well building a server where there are people playing WvWvW at any time of the day.

I often log in when I get home from work in the afternoon and done with food etc, and see G.H being behind the current score at that time; and then when I log off for the evening we’ve taken quite a lot back; meaning that the other servers must have a larger morning/day team as well. I have no idea how big the ‘night’ team is on G.H. but it seems the day-team is smaller than the current match up servers.

Also, Blacktide especially has some very skilled players as well, and perhaps that has hit Gandara double because of a push on two fronts.

So it’s definitely not as clear-cut as you try to make it.

What I’ve seen how it rolls out is pretty much around 00-01 GMT the G.H peeps starts cracking Player versus Gates and around the morning time 05 GMT something the Blacktide peeps wake up and starts grabbing the places – which leaves Gandara waking up around 15-16 GMT.