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Disclaimer: no QQ, just simple facts:

What we’re witnessing now in EU Silver league:
- already well-to-do server gets free transfers from all over the place just pre-tourney -> round the clock PPT against any possible competition;
- just as season draws near it’s end the server decides that simply winning the league is not enough, starts pushing an otherwise inferior 4th place AM into its match-ups and pulling it by its balls straight into 2 place by capping the map and ceding the control points to it just pre-reset (happened last week to Farshiver, happening now to Piken, gonna happen to Farshiver next week again);
- result: Abaddon – to its own surprise – takes second place, Piken and FarSH outplayed by the system.

I am not blaming Gandara for this, as any other server – with that transfer program pre-season + the way the point system works – could be in this position.

I am blaming the WvW management for failure to forecast such ludicrous scenarios and practically letting a single server decide who gets what in a championship. There are, of course, other issues with the transfer program, such as several Bronze servers’ population being devastated by free transfers to Silver, but that is of no concern to anyone anymore.

Hope to see a red post with views on the situation (yeah, right).

(is a piken player).

the devs really dont seem to care at all, or at best they are ‘working on it’.
there are other options out there besides gw2’s wvw….

Form what I see on MOS your side of EB is taken from AM, what does Gandara have to do with that apart from being able to take our stuff back earlier (we lost all but our keep and got all of it back 2-3 hours ago, when the Piken keep was taken) or not being focused by AM (if that is the case).

I do not know if there are politics behind it, I certainly never heard anything about it but from my viewpoint when I’m in the Borderlands or EB I rather have a good even fight with Piken than getting rolled over by the mother blob of AM.

Since I only play in the evening during the week I do not know what is happening during the day but from what I see on MOS it’s all about coverage.

I agree though that this free transfer thingy was a really bad choice, knowing what we do know now. I still believe they should’ve made the lowest rank servers of each tier free .. not the top ranked ones, which I think would’ve lead to more even matchups than this.

iFruit.6190:

Disclaimer: no QQ, just simple facts:

What we’re witnessing now in EU Silver league:
- just as season draws near it’s end the server decides that simply winning the league is not enough, starts pushing an otherwise inferior 4th place AM into its match-ups and pulling it by its balls straight into 2 place by capping the map and ceding the control points to it just pre-reset (happened last week to Farshiver, happening now to Piken, gonna happen to Farshiver next week again);
- result: Abaddon – to its own surprise – takes second place, Piken and FarSH outplayed by the system.

I am not blaming Gandara for this, as any other server – with that transfer program pre-season + the way the point system works – could be in this position.

I am blaming the WvW management for failure to forecast such ludicrous scenarios and practically letting a single server decide who gets what in a championship.

Yeah right man. It’s heartening to see that the tin-foil hats are being shared between servers now – speaking of which I didn’t actually get given one like I requested last time – but for serious the only deciding that ever happens comes after wild conjecture and conspiracy theories like this, when the link is being posted on our Server website’s shoutbox so that we can all have a good laugh about it and generally facepalm/facedesk in the face of how ridiculous it is. After which 1 of our commanders might decide just due to the idiocy of people suggesting we’re double teaming them, that he’ll command the next day and focus them for their transgressions. That is literally the extent of anything like that occurring. Right now the amount of laughter coming from the shoutbox is quite high, and some of it is even in caps.

Seriously, Piken and FSP are good servers, and we’ve had great fights and knew FSP well prior to the seasons and our immigrant overload, and although we haven’t seen Piken in a while beforehand, we remember them as honourable fighters who we had good relations with and were always fun to matchup against. Neither of you should be running around pointing fingers and throwing baseless accusations; you’re better than that.

No double teaming you say…hahaha thats just plain naive…:P
We were actually witnessing two zerks of AM and GND standing next to eachother and leave eachother alone whilst capping all that was FSP…so spare me your conspiracy theories, those are facts.
Don’t get me wrong..it happens everywhere..but at least admit it..warfare is all about alliances and sharing the victory over someone else, so in fact we deal with reality here..just do not deny it, please..YOU are better then that

IMO If ANet wants to see who is actually the best in a league, there should be some mechanics to even the odds..
-Allowing a maximum of players from each server spread over all 4 maps..Servers need then to really strategize instead of hording all over the EB and borderlands (do we put our 100 people on EB or 25 on each map for example). Downside would be less motivation to join in on WvW though..I am aware of that. This however could be mitigated bij creating more instances. You then could have for example 2 times the same map on which servers are playing against eachother. Kinda overflow thingie.

I wouldn’t say there was an alliance. However from experience in last weeks matchup it seems that certain Gandaran commanders (particularly offpeak) placed an obvious focus on Far Shiverpeaks for the 3 remaining days. It allowed Abaddons to make up 40k points for FSP in little over 2 days.

I distinctly remember the Wednesday afternoon I spent 3 hours in EB. For those 3 hours the AM and Gandaran zergs never left the FSP side of EB. Both of these zergs ignored each other and never fought with each other. In fact at one point both AM and Gandaran zergs stacked up near Umber about 10m apart and proceeded to emote each other then move away. However they had no problems looking for our zerg while the other capped something.

Our night crew told us that on the last night of the matchup they were being spawn camped by both servers at the same time, and that AM were capping stuff without resistance while Gandara were solely occupied with chasing FSP everywhere they went. Make of that what you want.

Don t blame Gandara for loosing the fight, they have nothing to do with it.

Yesterday i played for 2 hours on AM and we fight against heavy Gandara zergs AND as well Piken Zergs.
For example we try to capture the Piken Garrison (after we capture the Gandara) and fight in front with Piken when a massive Blob of Gandara came behind us and try to kill us.
Gandara is very clever to stay away from the fight and let do us the work for them and right before the Champion they try to roll over us and have a easy win with minimum loss.

Over the whole week our nightcap was great (Perhaps the best in SL) and piken can t get away much during the day time. Balancing our server population is the real trick.

Heavyweight goes over 12 Rounds, and AM save all for the last 3 or 4 Rounds to knock out the enemy.

On the last 2 or 3 days for example, i sometimes saw more heavy golems @ spawn as players.

We r not nuts to think we can stand against Gandara over the whole week, so we concentrate on the second place, that s the only point.

Greetings,

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