Give it a week or two. Even i’m taking some time away from WvW, something I haven’t done since the day I got the game. Although i’m away to level an alt, found I quite like the Guardian.
It’s an all of the above game. I’m mainly a WvW player, but I honestly think that PvE in GW2 is better than WoW.
I dunno, I don’t really see an issue with there not being a queue in WvW lol. I’m on a bottom tier server primarily because I love the fact there is never a queue, and the fact that WvW is a more intimate experience, where you really get to know your rivals.
What sucks is not that folks aren’t playing as much; but the fact that you and I and others… aren’t in the treadmill.
Gear grind of this type… its a major turn off not just for pvp but for the whole game. Hell, I work for a living. I can’t commit to 30-40 hours a week to grind gear. When you know you can’t compete…why bother playing at all?
Not having a legendary… I could live with… or 100% exotics… rough… but now ‘Ascended’ appears to be a second step above where I am now. Being one foot down I could live with and still have fun. But at two steps down… unlikely
Seriously tho. You want balance/fair pvp, go do spvp tpvp.
And what kind of excuse is that? If one mode is broken it doesn’t mean it should be abandoned, but fixed instead.
WvW is not “imbalanced unfair PvP”, it’s World versus World, PvPvE, and should be just as much balanced and fair as any other mode. No one asks for specific skill balancing for WvW. sPvP has it’s own skills, and WvW and PvE can share a skillset, that’s fine. But there needs to be balance in WvW just as there’s a balance in PvE. When you go to Orr enemies don’t have 20hp. They have balanced hp for the zone they’re in. What if they had 1 million hp? Would you tell PvErs to go to sPvP if they want balance?
If you act as if WvW is “doesnt matter” mode, or “who cares” mode, or “do what you want” mode – then why would ANet do anything?
I mean heck, look at this game. They put more effort in freakin jumping puzzles than WvW!
Unemployed people should not receive any social benefits if they are already working in an MMO.
I think any new content will nuke WvW to some extent. Numbers will drop off as players go check out the new shiny but they will be back. After all WvW is there 24/7 but new stuff is only new for a short time. Halloween droped WvW participation overall till it finished, Lost shores all but emptied the WvW zones while the 1 time events were runing. Fratals is probably still impacting WvW but I highly doubt that will last very long. Folks will milk what they want out of there soon enough and then they will be back to whatever else they do day to day.
I have not had the energy to play since this change was announced by ANet. I log on, go to WvW and maybe do something for a few minutes but then sooner or later I have to ask myself why? I have no direction or goals any more. Maybe in a few weeks once we see how much the game has changed I will be able to feel like doing something.
Don’t forget it’s not just the dungeon. It’s been weeks since I got a queue in Jade Quarry and you should see the massive, massive amount of refugees there is everyday.
Game is simply dying and the list of reasons why is pretty kitten high.
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A couple stats aren’t changing anything. It’s the lack of manpower you’re having… Which has nothing to do with a gear treadmill issue and everything to do with people wanting to play this new content.
GW2 is PVE centric game btw so expect more PVE content to be released especially at Christmas.
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Umm what? Spvp, wvw (pvp), and pve. I’m not saying the game is slanted more towards pvp but I would never claim it was a pve centric game with 2 of the three selling points being a form of pvp.
And well pve events are fun and all I really hope that the next content push has the changes to wvw they keep mentioning.
No queue is actually a better thing, not a worse thing. Additionally I do not think that there is something innately a problem with people grinding if that is what they want to do. Unfortunately what can be a problem is grinding PvE to have an edge in WvW.
I suggested sWvW a few days ago but unfortunately it had no responses.
This new dungeon grind is killing WvW and im on a huge T1 server, SBI
I can log into EB without a que since dungeon grind was introduced.
Is this a PvE game or a WvW/PvP game?
I didnt buy GW2 to PvE. if i wanted to PvE I would play “that other game” who does it 1000% times better.
Another player who never played GW1. No one is stopping you playing “that other game”. Enjoy being a panda. Crying on the forums without actually adding anything constructive will get your voice heard loud and clear. To answer your question this game caters to PvE, WvWvW and sPvP.
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What sucks is not that folks aren’t playing as much; but the fact that you and I and others… aren’t in the treadmill.
Gear grind of this type… its a major turn off not just for pvp but for the whole game. Hell, I work for a living. I can’t commit to 30-40 hours a week to grind gear. When you know you can’t compete…why bother playing at all?
Not having a legendary… I could live with… or 100% exotics… rough… but now ‘Ascended’ appears to be a second step above where I am now. Being one foot down I could live with and still have fun. But at two steps down… unlikely
Good luck.
Ya i actually play 4-5 hrs a day but im not going to spend my time pveing some stupid dungeon for gear, been there done that.
I just want to play WvW, only reason i bought this game.
Did you honestly just make a topic complaining about the fact players are doing what they want? The fractals have been out for 5 days, obviously it will be really popular…
Many bought GW2 for WvW only, Anet lacks to update it and people will leave.
USA Tier 1 has the least problems imagen other WvW server with half of that population.
So many bugs, so many ongoing problems in WvW, not saying the game is dying, but WvW is losing a fair chunk of players.
Our guild is making the move to Planetside 2 tonight, might come back when this mess in GW2 is sorted out, untill then we dont log back in.
If i wanted to play a carrot on a stick mmo i would play WoW.
They feel they are forced into grinding out fract over and over and over and over so they can get their shinies to comepete in WvW.
From my point of view that is a serious misconception. I have played WvW with many alts who are below level 80. Some of my level 80s aren’t fully equipped in exotic gear …
If WvW was about 1:1 fights, yes, gear would matter. But in WvW you’re one team against the other and that’s where coordination, tactics and strategy come into play. Better gear will help but unless we’re talking +100 strength +100 precision, etc. it will not have the huge impact many people claim it will have.
At the moment I am getting 15 crystals for 3 runs in about 1 – 1 1/2 hours (we’re still getting most of the guild through level 1) and the only item I’ve seen so far for sale is a backpack at 3500 gems … ouchies.
If I look at the recipies for the forge I see that it will take a LONG time to acquire even one recipe.
So people who will first have this new equipment are PvE grinders and I doubt that their new equipment is helping them against a well coordinated and PvP hardened enemy.
If they had added content to WvW as well as PVE, this would be less of an issue. Allow those that want what PVE has to offer in WvW and it’d be better. Hopefully they are working on this, incentive is king… I have been in WvW all weekend and now, but eh, it’s definitely dropped off on all but the most motivated servers.
This game has all 3 sPvP / WvW and PvE. It isn’t a PvP only game, else they wouldn’t have added any PvE at all.
Since you state you didn’t buy GW2 to PvE and indirectly blame other players to not be in WvW because they enjoy both WvW and PvE, it seems to me that you should’ve put some more research into mmorpg’s in general and this game specifically before buying it. I know no single mmorpg that doesn’t have less PvP’ers for a short time when a new patch is released that also includes PvE updates.
The reason why I’m hardly in WvW since last week is because I enjoy all aspects of the game which includes PvE. But I’ve only done the new dungeon 1x, I’m levelling my second main character instead which isn’t really viable in WvW because you then don’t get enough skillpoints.
In the long run it’s even good for WvW that I’m not there now as the more lvl80 characters I have, the less likely it is I get bored.
Oh and I think PvE in GW2 is way better than in that other game.
WvW is actually classified as PvE according to the “reds”. This is only a temporary problem and will be resolved as people get their gear…I’m sure those long queue’s will return that you love to hate.
What bothers me. Is the promise that anet made; u’r not forced to do anything u don’t like to do to stay an equal to all the other players. (Legendary arm is only beautiful no more stats). And now new jewelry … And up to full arm/armures that got better stat… Are we going to have this by WvW only? (Like we can do now?)
Hope anet will keep theirs promises
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I’ve got an exotic weapon in the bank of each type for my character, sometimes before I go to WvW I will switch up my weapon set, I can’t do this anymore, the grind for legendaries/ascended is just too much to contemplate.
WvW because they enjoy both WvW and PvE, it seems to me that you should’ve put some more research into mmorpg’s in general and this game specifically before buying it.
People did put in research before buying it, that is why there is a thread with over 10,000 replies in the general discussion forum on the fact that Anet has done a total u-turn on what it stated before the game was released in relation to gear progression / treadmill.
WvW because they enjoy both WvW and PvE, it seems to me that you should’ve put some more research into mmorpg’s in general and this game specifically before buying it.
People did put in research before buying it, that is why there is a thread with over 10,000 replies in the general discussion forum on the fact that Anet has done a total u-turn on what it stated before the game was released in relation to gear progression / treadmill.
That’s down to interpretation, for me the manifesto still holds through because it isn’t a gear treadmill but a one off adition of a tier they found was missing after they had experience with the live game for some time. That’s all part of development.
It’s not gear progression in its current implementation but rather progression inside only 1 specific dungeon. Furthermore looking forward, they add the new gear phased so everybody has time to acquire it and they will introduce ways to acquire them through other pve means, probably simmilar to currently the exotics eg. very easy. So it’s only silly to farm for it now, people don’t realize they’re doing the grinding themselves (and then often complain that the game is grindy, well not the way I play it and I’m still competetive).
But that’s not the discussion at hand and not what I meant either, if they would have introduced a full fledged new zone and / or multiple nice new dungeons other than fractals and / or more spvp game modes then the effect on WvW would have been exactly the same. Most mmo players play where the enjoyable new stuff is at. The amount of pvp purists is relatively small, most that fall in that category play other games like moba’s or shooters.
. I’m mainly a WvW player, but I honestly think that PvE in GW2 is better than WoW.