Guild Wars 2

This probably should have been suggested before but its not on the front page. There should also be general tags and scout tags available along with the already present commander tag.

Currently the system of nothing but commanders being visible on the map is at times, a little confusing. You should create Scout tags for players who are most likely near the friendly zerg but not actually apart of it. These Scouts can move ahead of the commanders and lead smaller groups to take camps, stall/kill enemies/dolyaks and of course relay information to the commander about enemy position/strength. Maybe even make said scout tags visible only to commanders themselves and Generals.

Generals would be very important as well because at times if there are too many commanders on the field they will stretch the player base too far out and weaken your group. The possibility of having a General tag on the field at peak hours like reset night can help to alleviate problems that arise when there are just too many voices speaking up.

Obviously the general tag should come with a hefty price but I believe part of that price should come in the form of some sort of aptitude test which would consistently randomize the questions in a timed window while keeping this test available to take only 1-2 times a month. Perhaps adding a requirement for total hours played in WvW would be helpful in deciding who is capable of achieving a General’s tag. The Scout tag should probably come fairly cheap, perhaps 40g or possibly even less.

I believe WvW would benefit from some sort of ACTUAL ranking system so that it’s not just a random group of people saying “this might be a good idea” or “we should do it this way”. At least with a few more tags out there those people who purchase them can somewhat be relied upon to know what they’re talking about. The seperate kinds of tags can also simplify the problem of trying to organize multiple groups. Those that want to move in small groups follow a scout, and those that want to run the karma train can follow a commander. Obviously this is a different beast down in the lower tiers where there just isn’t as many people, but this sort of ranking system with multiple types of tags should be able to produce better results from every demographic despite the number problems.

It is not needed imo. No matter what dedicated WvW guilds will have scouts that locate and inform the commander of the enemy positions. I’d rather have Anet fix stuff on WvW than add some new tags, because 40g right now isn’t that much and you would probably see an influx of those tags with people buying them left and right, and possibly making the situation even more confusing with everyone trying to talk over each other. If you are on a map like Eternal Battlegrounds and see 3-4 commander tags all at the same time, find the commander you like/familiar with or that you guild is following and join his squad. All the other tags will disappear allowing you to follow that commander without worrying about following the wrong one.

My POV is that WvW you don’t have to, but you should be on your servers communications like Team Speak 3, Ventrilo, Mumble,etc.. because on the higher tiers especially Tiers 1-2, when on a VOIP you can relay information faster than taking the time to type it, and with the upper tiers so volatile and unpredictable where every second counts and means the difference between holding an objective or losing it for the tick, being on something like Team Speak can save your server from losing say SM or a Keep or also inform your commander that he is walking into an ambush or needs to defend an important supply camp if you are supply starved.

Overall if the server has decent communication it is not needed from my POV.

So tonight we had a grief commander in our EBG. He tagged up and would pull a decent amount of pugs off the main commander with out really doing anything. Point is some people are just there to have fun and just lemming the zerg. Adding more tags to the field would probably add more confusion. That just seems like the down side to me.

+1 this idea

I was thinking something along the same lines the other day. We were running in a huge commander led zerg flipping supply camps, and in that zerg we had competent people who I know could lead a group to flip other camps at the same time. Problem is that it’s just too easy to follow the blue dorito.

Give us other ways to organize groups Anet. Different coloured doritos. Heck keep em all 100g if you must have your gold sinks.

Definitely a good idea for a low pop pugging server like mine. You guys with your organized guilds that communicate with each other, that’s great. But throw us losers a bone.

Yes that’s what we need, more tags on map!

Different colours is really all you need. I don’t know how that could possibly be a hard thing for anet to do.

Most organized groups use Teamspeak/raidcall and don’t even bother using tags so this idea isn’t really meant for organized guilds/parties. The whole point is to promote organization in WvW both on the pug level as well as for organized folks. The biggest complaint I always hear about pugs is that they don’t knnow where they’re going/doing, so I think if you can create more rally points on a map, some that would be camping parties, some that wouldn’t it would help organize players to the areas that actually wanna be in. The Blue dorito right now is nothing more than a rally point for the zerglings, regardless of who the actual commander is. Also some people either don’t want to or can’t be in voice communication so they’re going to look for their info in the form of text via map chat. Your idea of server communication is fine and all, but brand new players who don’t even know what WvW is and have never used teamspeak and the like are going to be less likely to join in on your "server communication.

The whole point to the thread is basically that the way Anet has presented WvW is in the simplest and sloppiest of ways imaginable, and that they should do something about that, anything really. I’ll be happy to have some more build diversity/viability in the next patch though, Condi Staff Ele here I come. ;P

P.S. if you really think that 40g isn’t that much than you PvE too much imo, lol.

Most commanders will have trusted scouts in group with them, so they can see them as little blue dots on the map.