Guild Wars 2

I know I’m potentially opening myself up to intense ridicule with this post, but can we please, please, please have a different (PvP maybe?) way to obtain the Gift of Battle? I’m sorry, but I hate WvW with an intense burning passion, and making me play WvW to get this necessary item for legendary crafting only intensifies my hatred. It wasn’t so bad when you could buy it for, I think it was 500 Badges of Honor, but this reward track nonsense is just oppressively horrible. I don’t like WvW, I don’t like the people who WvW and attack all of us who are forced into a game mode we have no interest in.

I’d be ok with it being something that could be earned in PvP as well as an alternative method.

So the current method for getting the Gift of Battle would remain and an additional method for PvP would be added.

Like you can get Dungeon Armor from both PvP and Dungeons.

Now that you can use legendary skins in PvP, it does mean that PvP methods for items used in the creation are reasonable.

One part of me agrees; sometimes dead hours in WvW… might be better to jump into PvP to obtain it there, if that were the case. Battle is battle.

Yet the other part is nagging; “what if this takes away potential fresh blood into WvW?” I’ve heard some people who were primarily PvE orientated never caring for WvW only to find it quite enjoyable; guilds to join because they had to be in there for the gift of Battle.

I’ve gotten three gifts of battle so far in 2 days thanks to boosters and the instant reward track progression from the new pips system. It isn’t hard to do and isn’t time-gated like so many other things either.

Just suck it up OP. It is not going to change and with the last patch it is even faster then ever before. If you really cant be bothered but do want to have your legendary, pop in do dailies for 20 days and you have your gift. Try that with the other gifts.

If you can’t be bothered to spend 4.3 hrs to get a GoB, then you can pop into EOTM and just do the Big Spender achievement and never have to touch WvW, but no GoB should be stuck solely to WvW.

Could I please, please get the Gift of Exploration by exploring all of WvW, because that’s really all I do in this game and it horrifies me to have to step of out my little safe gaming zone where there are no enemy players who heads I can bash together.

Yeah, this is about what I was expecting, and you’re right. I’ve actually never even left the Defend Shaemoor instance in the human tutorial. That’s how I’ve gotten 25k achievement points and 5 legendary weapons and a legendary back piece. #Geniuses

Aapheus.5780:

Yeah, this is about what I was expecting, and you’re right. I’ve actually never even left the Defend Shaemoor instance in the human tutorial. That’s how I’ve gotten 25k achievement points and 5 legendary weapons and a legendary back piece. #Geniuses

Gonna be honest with you here. I feel the exact same way about PvE, but there are many things that you have to do via PvE that makes QoL better in this game. So i grit my teeth, and do my bit of PvE to get whatever it is that I need/want. If you’ve gotten 5 legendary weapons than a gift of battle is no effort at all.

It’s a lot easier to get now than it was before, actually. The way it is now, you can get your GoB in 1-week or so. Whereas in the old days, you needed 500 Badges of Honor. Which in my hayday were only offered through player kills and the Obsidian Sanctum jump puzzle daily chest. So you literally had to kill hundreds of players and do the puzzle to get the 500 badges required to buy your GoB. Which overall took months to do. Nowadays it’s easy to max out a reward track in 4-7 days casually. All you have to do is run with the zerg and repair things in WvW for a handful of hours a day.

Herr der Friedhoefe.2490:

Could I please, please get the Gift of Exploration by exploring all of WvW, because that’s really all I do in this game and it horrifies me to have to step of out my little safe gaming zone where there are no enemy players who heads I can bash together.

^ So much this.

I know I’m potentially opening myself up to intense ridicule with this post, but can we please, please, please have a different (PvP maybe?) way to obtain the Gift of Exploration? I’m sorry, but I hate PvE with an intense burning passion, and making me play PvE to get this necessary item for legendary crafting only intensifies my hatred. It was never even for sale. I don’t like PvE, I don’t like the people who PvE and come to my prefered gamemode to whine.

Take the hint, bruh. Come see us in WvW for a few days. It won’t kill you, I swear. GoB is easier than ever to get; so waste less time complaining and more time simply getting on with it. :P

Aapheus.5780:

Yeah, this is about what I was expecting, and you’re right. I’ve actually never even left the Defend Shaemoor instance in the human tutorial. That’s how I’ve gotten 25k achievement points and 5 legendary weapons and a legendary back piece. #Geniuses

6 legendaries but the 7th is too much?

Aapheus.5780:

I know I’m potentially opening myself up to intense ridicule with this post, but can we please, please, please have a different (PvP maybe?) way to obtain the Gift of Battle? I’m sorry, but I hate WvW with an intense burning passion, and making me play WvW to get this necessary item for legendary crafting only intensifies my hatred. It wasn’t so bad when you could buy it for, I think it was 500 Badges of Honor, but this reward track nonsense is just oppressively horrible. I don’t like WvW, I don’t like the people who WvW and attack all of us who are forced into a game mode we have no interest in.

now you know how i feel about PvE, I hate PvE(on new or old maps) with a passion and why should i have to play it to get the weapon legendaries? I don’t like the people who PvE and attack all of us who are forced into a game mode we have no interest in

KStudios.2850:

It’s a lot easier to get now than it was before, actually. The way it is now, you can get your GoB in 1-week or so. Whereas in the old days, you needed 500 Badges of Honor. Which in my hayday were only offered through player kills and the Obsidian Sanctum jump puzzle daily chest. So you literally had to kill hundreds of players and do the puzzle to get the 500 badges required to buy your GoB. Which overall took months to do. Nowadays it’s easy to max out a reward track in 4-7 days casually. All you have to do is run with the zerg and repair things in WvW for a handful of hours a day.

You forget that achievement chests were giving out badges for almost two years before they made GoB a reward track. It was a golden age (for PvEers) where they could get their gift for their Legendary without ever stepping foot outside the safe zones on each map.

But I get your point.

Foefaller.1082:

KStudios.2850:

It’s a lot easier to get now than it was before, actually. The way it is now, you can get your GoB in 1-week or so. Whereas in the old days, you needed 500 Badges of Honor. Which in my hayday were only offered through player kills and the Obsidian Sanctum jump puzzle daily chest. So you literally had to kill hundreds of players and do the puzzle to get the 500 badges required to buy your GoB. Which overall took months to do. Nowadays it’s easy to max out a reward track in 4-7 days casually. All you have to do is run with the zerg and repair things in WvW for a handful of hours a day.

You forget that achievement chests were giving out badges for almost two years before they made GoB a reward track. It was a golden age (for PvEers) where they could get their gift for their Legendary without ever stepping foot outside the safe zones on each map.

But I get your point.

I didn’t forget. I actually never realized that, lol. xD

Aapheus.5780:

I know I’m potentially opening myself up to intense ridicule with this post, but can we please, please, please have a different (PvP maybe?) way to obtain the Gift of Battle? I’m sorry, but I hate WvW with an intense burning passion, and making me play WvW to get this necessary item for legendary crafting only intensifies my hatred. It wasn’t so bad when you could buy it for, I think it was 500 Badges of Honor, but this reward track nonsense is just oppressively horrible. I don’t like WvW, I don’t like the people who WvW and attack all of us who are forced into a game mode we have no interest in.

If you happen to be on an EU server (and don’t already have access to this) I can temporarily invite you to our guild so you can grab the 10% WvW Reward Track Boost from the tavern.. With that and a Rare or Exotic XP Booster you should get 312 points / tick at max participation and with the new Reward Track boosts from the Skirmish Chests it should take you only ~5 hours of WvW to get it done.

Foefaller.1082:

KStudios.2850:

It’s a lot easier to get now than it was before, actually. The way it is now, you can get your GoB in 1-week or so. Whereas in the old days, you needed 500 Badges of Honor. Which in my hayday were only offered through player kills and the Obsidian Sanctum jump puzzle daily chest. So you literally had to kill hundreds of players and do the puzzle to get the 500 badges required to buy your GoB. Which overall took months to do. Nowadays it’s easy to max out a reward track in 4-7 days casually. All you have to do is run with the zerg and repair things in WvW for a handful of hours a day.

You forget that achievement chests were giving out badges for almost two years before they made GoB a reward track. It was a golden age (for PvEers) where they could get their gift for their Legendary without ever stepping foot outside the safe zones on each map.

But I get your point.

Actually, you had to first unlock the vendor by reaching WvW Rank 50, then this was lowered to 14. So you did have to step out of the spawn, just not for too long.

Herr der Friedhoefe.2490:

Could I please, please get the Gift of Exploration by exploring all of WvW, because that’s really all I do in this game and it horrifies me to have to step of out my little safe gaming zone where there are no enemy players who heads I can bash together.

If you didn’t have access to Dungeon “exclusive” armors and weapons, PvE “exclusive” Sigils and Runes, and PvE “exclusive” Zone Rewards, in your “safe little gaming zone” called WvW, then I might agree with you on this one.

A side note, on topic:

Legendary precursor (weapon) crafting shows that a legendary weapon requires you (intended by the Anet Devs) to take part in all types of core game (I say core, because Raids are not required for weapons), because of the “Experimental Weapon”.
This one uses both Shards of Glory (PvP) and Memories of Battle (WvW). By having both “unbound” currencies available on the trading post, you can bypass that intention with money (probably from PvE).
EotM and its k-training is already cheapening the effort in WvW, adding a PvP way for the Gift of Battle (and the ability to use custom arenas), would further make Legendary weapons less special than they are right now.

PS: Time spent for Gift of Exploration vs. Gift of Battle is really all I can say on that topic after so many wishes and complains about the Gift of Battle.

Najten.2418:

Foefaller.1082:

KStudios.2850:

It’s a lot easier to get now than it was before, actually. The way it is now, you can get your GoB in 1-week or so. Whereas in the old days, you needed 500 Badges of Honor. Which in my hayday were only offered through player kills and the Obsidian Sanctum jump puzzle daily chest. So you literally had to kill hundreds of players and do the puzzle to get the 500 badges required to buy your GoB. Which overall took months to do. Nowadays it’s easy to max out a reward track in 4-7 days casually. All you have to do is run with the zerg and repair things in WvW for a handful of hours a day.

You forget that achievement chests were giving out badges for almost two years before they made GoB a reward track. It was a golden age (for PvEers) where they could get their gift for their Legendary without ever stepping foot outside the safe zones on each map.

But I get your point.

Actually, you had to first unlock the vendor by reaching WvW Rank 50, then this was lowered to 14. So you did have to step out of the spawn, just not for too long.

Hey at least you can do it now without ever stepping a foot out of spawn or if you have the portable provisioner never have to step into WvW ever again and get the GoB.

The Gob is easier than ever to get now and loads of people still complain it’s ‘hard’ or boring to get.
Well then, let’s go back to total wvw map completion and see how that feels, shall we?

Najten.2418:

Foefaller.1082:

KStudios.2850:

It’s a lot easier to get now than it was before, actually. The way it is now, you can get your GoB in 1-week or so. Whereas in the old days, you needed 500 Badges of Honor. Which in my hayday were only offered through player kills and the Obsidian Sanctum jump puzzle daily chest. So you literally had to kill hundreds of players and do the puzzle to get the 500 badges required to buy your GoB. Which overall took months to do. Nowadays it’s easy to max out a reward track in 4-7 days casually. All you have to do is run with the zerg and repair things in WvW for a handful of hours a day.

You forget that achievement chests were giving out badges for almost two years before they made GoB a reward track. It was a golden age (for PvEers) where they could get their gift for their Legendary without ever stepping foot outside the safe zones on each map.

But I get your point.

Actually, you had to first unlock the vendor by reaching WvW Rank 50, then this was lowered to 14. So you did have to step out of the spawn, just not for too long.

There was a time that you didn’t need ranks at all. Back when you had to do WvW maps for map completion. I’ve only done WvW to get the map completion done on two characters and I did not do it it by playing the mode as intended for most of it. I’m rank 5. I’ve got the gift of battle.

It is critically important that the Gift of Battle retain its exclusivity to the WvW game mode. Just like how WvW and PvP players have to go into PvE if they want to get the stuff for certain shiny skins, you, too, must go into WvW to get certain shiny skins. It’s good for the game even if you don’t personally like it. Remember that legendaries are not for everyone, and nothing is forcing you to pursue them.

Find a zerg, close your eyes and pretend you’re doing a Dragon’s Stand meta.

Due to changes though, you can completely skip the PvP bit, so not allowing people to skip the WvW bit for reasons such as “you need to do all game modes” comes off as biased imo.

Seera.5916:

Najten.2418:

Foefaller.1082:

KStudios.2850:

It’s a lot easier to get now than it was before, actually. The way it is now, you can get your GoB in 1-week or so. Whereas in the old days, you needed 500 Badges of Honor. Which in my hayday were only offered through player kills and the Obsidian Sanctum jump puzzle daily chest. So you literally had to kill hundreds of players and do the puzzle to get the 500 badges required to buy your GoB. Which overall took months to do. Nowadays it’s easy to max out a reward track in 4-7 days casually. All you have to do is run with the zerg and repair things in WvW for a handful of hours a day.

You forget that achievement chests were giving out badges for almost two years before they made GoB a reward track. It was a golden age (for PvEers) where they could get their gift for their Legendary without ever stepping foot outside the safe zones on each map.

But I get your point.

Actually, you had to first unlock the vendor by reaching WvW Rank 50, then this was lowered to 14. So you did have to step out of the spawn, just not for too long.

There was a time that you didn’t need ranks at all. Back when you had to do WvW maps for map completion. I’ve only done WvW to get the map completion done on two characters and I did not do it it by playing the mode as intended for most of it. I’m rank 5. I’ve got the gift of battle.

Yeah I did them on 3 toons before that was removed. Kinda wish they’d reinstate it though, even if it isn’t readded to World Exploration I’d like to be able to complete the maps (like Dry Top or Silverwastes) and just have them give out their own special rewards.