Guild Wars 2

Seriously Anet we complain about omega golem being OP and that many servers run from fights during primetime only to golem rush at night and early mornings!

And now you do this event to what? Show how messed up golem are?

Do you devs even know what you are doing?!

No, they don’t.

/signed

#clueless

They know exactly what they’re doing.

Players gonna spend cash on gems, to convert into gold so they can buy a ton of golems.

Its a win, win and win situation you see.

Anet gets cash.

Trolls get to troll.

Reg WvWers get a 1 wk vacation.

Should be happy they just didn’t forget about WvW.

Kappa

Where are all of these complaints? I only see one thread that hasn’t even made it to its second page.

Ayrilana.1396:

Where are all of these complaints? I only see one thread that hasn’t even made it to its second page.

over 2000 posts, not all of them complaints but a mix of complaints and bugs

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=golem+site:https:%2F%2Fforum-en.guildwars2.com%2Fforum%2Fgame%2Fwuv%2F

ChoChoBo.6503:

Ayrilana.1396:

Where are all of these complaints? I only see one thread that hasn’t even made it to its second page.

over 2000 posts, not all of them complaints but a mix of complaints and bugs

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=golem+site:https:%2F%2Fforum-en.guildwars2.com%2Fforum%2Fgame%2Fwuv%2F

Really? That’s your source? A Google search for golems?

Ayrilana.1396:

Really? That’s your source? A Google search for golems?

Well I aint going through over 2 years of posts just to satisfy your request.

WvW complaints on numerous parts of WvW have been here since launch! If you want more info you can search the forums yourself.

Orochimaru.4730:

Ayrilana.1396:

Really? That’s your source? A Google search for golems?

Well I aint going through over 2 years of posts just to satisfy your request.

WvW complaints on numerous parts of WvW have been here since launch! If you want more info you can search the forums yourself.

Well I see all of these “Anet is out of touch” posts about the new golem thing where there’s only once current thread about golems and it’s less than a page long. You can find complaibts about all areas of the games. It doesn’t mean that Anet is out of touch.

Ayrilana.1396:

ChoChoBo.6503:

Ayrilana.1396:

Where are all of these complaints? I only see one thread that hasn’t even made it to its second page.

over 2000 posts, not all of them complaints but a mix of complaints and bugs

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=golem+site:https:%2F%2Fforum-en.guildwars2.com%2Fforum%2Fgame%2Fwuv%2F

Really? That’s your source? A Google search for golems?

sigh, if you don’t actually want to do the real research here:

specific site search with google on gw2’s forum in its wvw section only:

“omega golems too strong” 56 threads, 775 posts
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=%22omega+golems%22+too+strong+site:https:%2F%2Fforum-en.guildwars2.com%2Fforum%2Fgame%2Fwuv%2F

“siege too strong” 382 threads, not gonna add up all the individual posts for you
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=siege+too+strong+site:https:%2F%2Fforum-en.guildwars2.com%2Fforum%2Fgame%2Fwuv%2F

I’m not your mother kittening secretary, you asked where you can find all the complaints. I linked you a search where you could find it.

There’s a ton more than just 1 thread. Just saying.

They are out of touch with wvw as a whole.
The players don’t want cheap, stupid, game breaking gimmicks.

ChoChoBo.6503:

Ayrilana.1396:

ChoChoBo.6503:

Ayrilana.1396:

Where are all of these complaints? I only see one thread that hasn’t even made it to its second page.

over 2000 posts, not all of them complaints but a mix of complaints and bugs

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=golem+site:https:%2F%2Fforum-en.guildwars2.com%2Fforum%2Fgame%2Fwuv%2F

Really? That’s your source? A Google search for golems?

sigh, if you don’t actually want to do the real research here:

specific site search with google on gw2’s forum in its wvw section only:

“omega golems too strong” 56 threads, 775 posts
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=%22omega+golems%22+too+strong+site:https:%2F%2Fforum-en.guildwars2.com%2Fforum%2Fgame%2Fwuv%2F

“siege too strong” 382 threads, not gonna add up all the individual posts for you
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=siege+too+strong+site:https:%2F%2Fforum-en.guildwars2.com%2Fforum%2Fgame%2Fwuv%2F

I’m not your mother kittening secretary, you asked where you can find all the complaints. I linked you a search where you could find it.

There’s a ton more than just 1 thread. Just saying.

These are site searches with google, so these results are all with-in the GW2 forums under WvW. This is the only real way to search for topics on the forums here because the search bar is crap.

Seems like a great idea for a fun and crazy week to me. I like the idea of putting crazy twist into WvW for a week to break monotony.

ChoChoBo.6503:

Ayrilana.1396:

ChoChoBo.6503:

Ayrilana.1396:

Where are all of these complaints? I only see one thread that hasn’t even made it to its second page.

over 2000 posts, not all of them complaints but a mix of complaints and bugs

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=golem+site:https:%2F%2Fforum-en.guildwars2.com%2Fforum%2Fgame%2Fwuv%2F

Really? That’s your source? A Google search for golems?

sigh, if you don’t actually want to do the real research here:

specific site search with google on gw2’s forum in its wvw section only:

“omega golems too strong” 56 threads, 775 posts
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=%22omega+golems%22+too+strong+site:https:%2F%2Fforum-en.guildwars2.com%2Fforum%2Fgame%2Fwuv%2F

“siege too strong” 382 threads, not gonna add up all the individual posts for you
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=siege+too+strong+site:https:%2F%2Fforum-en.guildwars2.com%2Fforum%2Fgame%2Fwuv%2F

I’m not your mother kittening secretary, you asked where you can find all the complaints. I linked you a search where you could find it.

There’s a ton more than just 1 thread. Just saying.

With any complaint issue, there will be multiple threads. Look at all the ones calling for mounts had they not been merged. If you look at up at a previous post then you will see that I said current threads. I looked at the past 3-4 pages in the WvW forums and only saw 1 thread which is where I got that number from. I wasn’t saying there was 1 thread ever and I don’t know why you came up with that assumption.

They have a beautiful and entertaining clue. It’s not like this is becoming permanent. It’s just an event. It’s like no white swords. Sit back, and enjoy the golem orgy. It will be very VERY entertaining to watch.
And if you are worried it will be a K train week, than change it. Build a kitten ton of ballista, make your own kitten golems and kill the other golems.
The problem is, only the negative people voice their opinions on here, and the negative people come on here to have their own ideas reinforce to make themselves feel good. If you are still neutral about this week event, don’t listen to the bullkitten these people are saying. It’s a game, have fun and enjoy it. If you don’t like it, that’s fin, but I know ALOT of VETERAN players, including myself, are going to have a blast killing the golem Ktrains.
Don’t knock it till Ya try it

Ayrilana.1396:

I wasn’t saying there was 1 thread ever and I don’t know why you came up with that assumption.

this is where i came up with the assumption that you only found one thread:

Ayrilana.1396:

Where are all of these complaints? I only see one thread that hasn’t even made it to its second page.

you kind of said, ‘[you] only see one thread’

my bad if this was all just a misunderstanding, what just trying to make a point that there’s more than one thread.

ChoChoBo.6503:

Ayrilana.1396:

I wasn’t saying there was 1 thread ever and I don’t know why you came up with that assumption.

this is where i came up with the assumption that you only found one thread:

Ayrilana.1396:

Where are all of these complaints? I only see one thread that hasn’t even made it to its second page.

you kind of said, ‘[you] only see one thread’

my bad if this was all just a misunderstanding, what just trying to make a point that there’s more than one thread.

It might have been a misunderstanding. When I saw all of these negative threads pop up primarily about complaints about golems and how out of touch Anet was, I was a little shocked when I saw only one complaint thread about golems within the first few pages. The lag people are seeing appeared to be more of an issue at the moment.

the only clue I wonder is why make a repeat topic of a topic that already going on?

Also, what clue, they are shaking up wvw for a week, who cares, it going to be fun, get out of the boring habbit of how it is played, and have fun. the week after it be back to normal more or less.

It’s fine to have whimsical events when your player base is generally satisfied with the attention you’ve put into the game. When your player base sees you have put little to no effort into WvW for years. Something like this brings out anger.

Why, you just said they not do anything, here is a step forward, and your all upset, make up your mind then. Also i thought new things were comming soon, a huge wvw update, and a new wvw map soon.

Maybe they plan to not allow us to use golems on new map and this is kind of ‘farewell’ event? They could be replaced by other things… We will see

The fact that even anet tells us to use google’s site search feature because their own search feature is broken and not been repaired in 3 years speaks for itself, and that’s just the forums not even the game!

They are testing something out to see how it is received and whether or not it will be fun.

Stop yelling that the sky is falling and try something for a few days. We really don’t know how it will actually play out.

Its going to turn into a giant EotM style karma train.
Its obvious to anyone that understand how wvw works.

I have a theory they are trying to reduce the amount of golem siege and make them rarer.

Or you know it’s just fun insanity, because we normally don’t get fun insanity in WvW.

You seem to have no clue your self these things are not done with out a reason.

Guess I get a week off from WvW, because my goodness is this going to suck.

To be fair, the last major discussion was pretty recent, which makes it a bit jarring:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Omega-golems-have-no-place-in-wvw/first#post5256651

But there’s no real consensus.

If you narrow the range for omega golem to the range of one year, you don’t get many results talking about them at all:

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=%22omega+golems%22++site:https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/&tbs=qdr:y

Which brings up the other major thread with some strong sentiments on both sides:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Should-Omega-Golem-Be-Nerfed

So no, I actually don’t see that many complaints about omega golems.

Compare this to say, https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#tbs=qdr:y&q=%22arrow+carts%22++site:https:%2F%2Fforum-en.guildwars2.com%2Fforum%2Fgame%2Fwuv%2F

where the first page of results alone shows a lot of complaints at a glance.

But none of that is relevant. The issue here is not whether omega golems in their current state are broken, but what supplyless omega golems would do to the game mode.

coglin.1867:

Seems like a great idea for a fun and crazy week to me. I like the idea of putting crazy twist into WvW for a week to break monotony.

Out of all of the threads about this exact same topic you are one of the only people to post who seem to actually realize it is a game and know that it’s all about fun. Thank God there are still some fun people around on forums <3

coglin.1867:

Seems like a great idea for a fun and crazy week to me. I like the idea of putting crazy twist into WvW for a week to break monotony.

yeah but even you can see that an entire week of this is going to get very very stale… It’ll be ok for a couple hours and then it just becomes even more monotonous.

Moonlit.6421:

coglin.1867:

Seems like a great idea for a fun and crazy week to me. I like the idea of putting crazy twist into WvW for a week to break monotony.

Out of all of the threads about this exact same topic you are one of the only people to post who seem to actually realize it is a game and know that it’s all about fun. Thank God there are still some fun people around on forums <3

Read his post history. He’s just defending Anet to defend Anet.

Tspatula.9086:

coglin.1867:

Seems like a great idea for a fun and crazy week to me. I like the idea of putting crazy twist into WvW for a week to break monotony.

yeah but even you can see that an entire week of this is going to get very very stale… It’ll be ok for a couple hours and then it just becomes even more monotonous.

No, no I can’t. Unlike yourself, I do not misrepresent myself as a capable of seeing the future. Seems counter intuitive to me, to suggest a week of different game play would be defined as stale, in comparison to nearly 3 years of identical game play scenarios from week to week.

Hey, look, it may not be for everyone, that is fine. Feel free to hate it and stay away. I am sure those who like it, or like change for the sake of it, will be happy you made room for them to get in and have some crazy fun with their friends.

Lord Kuru.3685:

Moonlit.6421:

coglin.1867:

Seems like a great idea for a fun and crazy week to me. I like the idea of putting crazy twist into WvW for a week to break monotony.

Out of all of the threads about this exact same topic you are one of the only people to post who seem to actually realize it is a game and know that it’s all about fun. Thank God there are still some fun people around on forums <3

Read his post history. He’s just defending Anet to defend Anet.

And? Some people defend games when they enjoy them. Others just stick around to complain over and over again when they should really find a new game to play. Once again this event is making people react just like the no white swords event.. Bunch of over dramatic people QQ’ing over something that hasn’t even happened yet.

Yeah, at first glance, my guild will be taking the week off.

It could be fun. We had doubts about the no white swords thing. It turned out ok. Most of the guild still didn’t like it but overall, a reasonably fun week.

Don’t think it will be the case here. However, there are other things we can do, so no worries. Mostly will be catching up on the back catalog of other games we play looks like.

I think the event will be kind of fun. I suspect that the intent behind the event is more of a stress test than anything. To see how many golems can be active in a map at any given time.
But if its not your thing, now would be a good time to start buying up blueprints. They will hit a premium at the start of the event. I wouldn’t be surprised if they already started going up in price just from the announcement.

Ok we had a no white swords event. Do people even realise it was NOT going to be an event in first place but permanent untill we raised our torches and pitchforks to make anet realise it was a stupid decision? Guess most have forgotten that.

They could fix the PPT system, that is only an abstract representation of server population.

They could change the outdated server system, which is a remnant of how technology was limited in the1990s. They just have to imitate other solutions, like in ESO, where there is 3 alliances and an amazing guesting system.

But nooooooo, Golem Rush everyone!

Offair.2563:

Ok we had a no white swords event. Do people even realise it was NOT going to be an event in first place but permanent untill we raised our torches and pitchforks to make anet realise it was a stupid decision? Guess most have forgotten that.

Nah I clearly remember it happening during the adopt-a-dev thing anet did. One dev was brainstorming on the forums and people assumed it would be permanent thing. Anet even stated it was a test event yet people complained over and over again. TBH if they removed them all together it would make no difference for me as that event showed which servers had good scouts and which servers needed better scouts. When white swords came back I trolled for hours tapping things to drive people crazy again because they lacked scouts. Was lots of fun watching zergs run around doing nothing but checking on white swords..

Helicity.3416:

Guess I get a week off from WvW, because my goodness is this going to suck.

WvW devs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_8KR-n2fBQ

HitmanHaydon.1053:

Its going to turn into a giant EotM style karma train.
Its obvious to anyone that understand how wvw works.

To be fair, EotM will be even more so.

EDIT: Which begs the question, why didn’t ANet just “test” this in EotM in the first place?

Now all we need is tanks to counter golems

Artaz.3819:

HitmanHaydon.1053:

Its going to turn into a giant EotM style karma train.
Its obvious to anyone that understand how wvw works.

To be fair, EotM will be even more so.

EDIT: Which begs the question, why didn’t ANet just “test” this in EotM in the first place?

That’s what they claimed they were going to do with EotM originally. LOL.

Will EotM even see much golems during this “event?” Everyone’s there to karma train, not waste money on golems — I’d guess after the first day, you won’t see any omegas in EotM.

I guess I’m the only one that though “**** yes, Anet finally decided to have some fun with WvW”

Guys, chill, it’s one week of lets have a bit of fun all running around with golems pretending to be transformers, Jaeger’s etc.

I hope they do more events for WvW to brighten up what is now a very dusty and monotonous game mode after nearly 3 years.

Oh I also forgot to mention for those making frowny faces and getting in a huff there’s the beta weekend and revenants for you to check out, you know, assuming you’re not pretending you’re are not going to buy the expansion.

coglin.1867:

Tspatula.9086:

coglin.1867:

Seems like a great idea for a fun and crazy week to me. I like the idea of putting crazy twist into WvW for a week to break monotony.

yeah but even you can see that an entire week of this is going to get very very stale… It’ll be ok for a couple hours and then it just becomes even more monotonous.

No, no I can’t. Unlike yourself, I do not misrepresent myself as a capable of seeing the future. Seems counter intuitive to me, to suggest a week of different game play would be defined as stale, in comparison to nearly 3 years of identical game play scenarios from week to week.

Hey, look, it may not be for everyone, that is fine. Feel free to hate it and stay away. I am sure those who like it, or like change for the sake of it, will be happy you made room for them to get in and have some crazy fun with their friends.

Ok, But why should the people like myself who do not like omega golems, see them as nothing but a nuisance the bigger servers we fight use to nullify all of our defence when it is either middle of the night/very early morning, turning all of our hardwork into nothing, as 10-12 omegas and a 30 man zerg vs few people who are still awake/defending.

You’re very quick to criticize people who’s view on this subject disagrees with “omg it is amazing praise mordremoth”, but you have yet to suggest anything appropriate as an alternative to “do not play” for those people like myself who will find this event absaloutley 0 fun, whatsoever.

Maybe you could help us, and try to do something positive for the whole WvW community, like suggesting ways this could be implimented without forcing those of us who find this idea utterly awful to go do something else for a week, For example; Golems only work 4 hours in primetime, outside of those 4 hours they cost supps and are not buffed. Or it’s only for firday/staurday/sunday, so those of us who like to fight normal wvw, will get a chance to have some fun too on the weekdays.

There, you can still say you fully support the idea, but you could also support the other people who do not like this idea, by pushing viable alternatives into view of Anet. I’m sure there are people on every server whom will not like the idea, so it would be a shame to push them all away for a week.

Just my 2 cents.

tbh my first reaction when i read this post (i don’t think that golems are OP, but definitely don’t need to be boosted) was kinda negative. On the second thought i was actually kinda happy with it. They promo the event so a small pvp/pve population will probably try out wvw. Also the prices of the alpha’s/omega’s will increase, resulting in lower use of the golems aferwards.

It’s a strange event, but it might aswell turn out to be a good one :P

Moonlit.6421:

coglin.1867:

Seems like a great idea for a fun and crazy week to me. I like the idea of putting crazy twist into WvW for a week to break monotony.

Out of all of the threads about this exact same topic you are one of the only people to post who seem to actually realize it is a game and know that it’s all about fun. Thank God there are still some fun people around on forums <3

Thats fine but then disable glicko for the week.

So how the hell does this qualify as fun unless you are one of those mindless blobby zerglings that just come to WvW to karma train. Fun to those that actually play WvW using a modicum of skill and thought is had in fighting, defending, and using strategy. All we will see is blobby servers steam rolling maps and how is that fun to those on the receiving end who take some satisfaction in upgrading, building siege, scouting etc.

Unless Arenanet has some ulterior motive – besides annoying the veteran WvW players – then this is just some random, out-of-touch, spur of the moment event they ‘think’ the WvW population would enjoy. Well surprise, surprise; from all the feedback I have heard from those that actually play WvW as their main game mode this is not the case.

So a message to Arenanet; why don’t you apply some transparency and forethought and thus seek consensus on what constitutes a valid WvW event from the community in future.

Grendels Mother.5713:

Unless Arenanet has some ulterior motive – besides annoying the veteran WvW players – then this is just some random, out-of-touch, spur of the moment event they ‘think’ the WvW population would enjoy. Well surprise, surprise; from all the feedback I have heard from those that actually play WvW as their main game mode this is not the case.

Maybe because those that cry the loudest are always the ones that are heard. You think everyone that wants to take part in this is going to come and post when some negative nancy will try to ruin the fun for them even before the event happens.

This is the thing. As a veteran you should welcome any test or change. If you don’t well you really don’t want WvW to EVER CHANGE. With so many negative post from people claiming they are veterans, it has made me look at those veterans as old grumpy players.

This game is starting to have more old grumpy players than actual veterans, like myself, who will welcome any test, event or change to the one game mode they like to play.

briggah.7910:

Grendels Mother.5713:

Unless Arenanet has some ulterior motive – besides annoying the veteran WvW players – then this is just some random, out-of-touch, spur of the moment event they ‘think’ the WvW population would enjoy. Well surprise, surprise; from all the feedback I have heard from those that actually play WvW as their main game mode this is not the case.

Maybe because those that cry the loudest are always the ones that are heard. You think everyone that wants to take part in this is going to come and post when some negative nancy will try to ruin the fun for them even before the event happens.

This is the thing. As a veteran you should welcome any test or change. If you don’t well you really don’t want WvW to EVER CHANGE. With so many negative post from people claiming they are veterans, it has made me look at those veterans as old grumpy players.

This game is starting to have more old grumpy players than actual veterans, like myself, who will welcome any test, event or change to the one game mode they like to play.

I agree with everything but the bold. That’s a false dilemma; I do not think mindlessly accepting any change is any better than refusing any change. I would argue that as long as people enjoy the game as it exists to any degree, there is the possibility that some changes can be bad.

morrolan.9608:

Thats fine but then disable glicko for the week.

This. Not that Glicko matters that much these days, but it definitely should be turned off for the golem event.