Guild Wars 2

… Sucked.

I would, however, love to see a week long event where rams were the only siege that could be built (nothing else – no ACs, no Trebs, no Catas, etc).

Could this be put to a poll?

The Flame Ram God would be pleased, but they would need to remove siege disablers for that to work or it would be impossible to breach on anything.

Much as I would like to see less siege in wvw, allowing only rams to be functional would not be practical. Walls cannot be damaged without siege so without catas and trebs the only way to attack keeps and towers would be through gates. I don’t think many would find this fun, as it would ruin a lot of strategic placement of siege on terrain, and make using other objectives useless for attacking enemies, for example north towers on alpine. Also there would be no way to use siege defensively, it would basically just promote blobbing and ktraining to pvd.

X T D.6458:

it would basically just promote blobbing and ktraining to pvd.

Isn’t that what WvW is already?

If you want to take away my means of defense, then you can facemow down the gate, too

NO RAMS FOR YOU!

Isn’t it without siege anyway already? Just need a few necros and eles and all walls are clear within seconds.
Screenshot: I couldn’t even throw a disabler as I had to dodge non stop.

Jana.6831:

Isn’t it without siege anyway already? Just need a few necros and eles and all walls are clear within seconds.
Screenshot: I couldn’t even throw a disabler as I had to dodge non stop.

I think we’ve had an AC at the right arrow, no shield generator though – but as you can see we were ultimate outnumbered.

Still, I’m not sure I like how things are, but then again I’ve been around for that long that I can still remember times in which everything in wvw made sense.

Thanks though =)

Jayne.9251, Eles can still reach to that point.

But yeah overall that is what people do.

Aeolus.3615:

Jayne.9251, Eles can still reach to that point.

But yeah overall that is what people do.

Not if you throw from below m’dear

Aeolus.3615:

Jayne.9251, Eles can still reach to that point.

But yeah overall that is what people do.

They barely hit that spot if you throw it right. Unless there are like 10+ staff eles, you are likely to be able to man the AC and kill the catas from that spot without even needing a shield generator. Walls with staircases are pretty much the only walls where you can place ACs because they are wide enough to Meteor Shower.

Rotteny.8743:

Aeolus.3615:

Jayne.9251, Eles can still reach to that point.

But yeah overall that is what people do.

They barely hit that spot if you throw it right. Unless there is like 10+ staff eles, you are likely to be able to man the AC and kill the catas from that spot without even needing a shield generator. Walls with staircases are pretty much the only walls where you can place ACs because they are wide enough to Meteor Shower.

Good joke – they had that wall down in 1,5 minutes.
ETA: An AC takes 3 to 4 times as long to get an cata out. Now we also have repair hammers and like I siad; I was unable to hold it out long enough to throw a disabler, but even then we wouldn’t have any chance.

It’s not about destroying the cata. Not everyone can stand under Superior AC fire manned by someone with full mastery. I normally get downs, and the people start running around in doubt if they should man the cata or help the downed person. Sometimes I even get kills out of it.
But whatever you say man… I just know I never lose walls with staircases to proxy catas unless I arived too late… /shrug

Well keeps and towers arent ment to be holded… this is AB with walls anyway.
Keep KT in circles and recap stuuf that is gont flip in 5-7 minutes.

Rotteny.8743:

Whatever you say man, but I never lose walls with staircases to proxy catas… /shrug

Then you must be a very lucky girl.
Usually: The bigger the blob the less chance you have to do anything with no matter what.

Aeolus.3615:

Well keeps and towers arent ment to be holded… this is AB with walls anyway.
Keep KT in circles and recap stuuf that is gont flip in 5-7 minutes.

Yeah sure, why would we want to hold anything? This is PvE after all!!

Jana.6831:

Rotteny.8743:

Aeolus.3615:

Jayne.9251, Eles can still reach to that point.

But yeah overall that is what people do.

They barely hit that spot if you throw it right. Unless there is like 10+ staff eles, you are likely to be able to man the AC and kill the catas from that spot without even needing a shield generator. Walls with staircases are pretty much the only walls where you can place ACs because they are wide enough to Meteor Shower.

Good joke – they had that wall down in 1,5 minutes.
ETA: An AC takes 3 to 4 times as long to get an cata out. Now we also have repair hammers and like I siad; I was unable to hold it out long enough to throw a disabler, but even then we wouldn’t have any chance.

Actually I totally agree with you on catas. I was surprised when I logged in yesterday to see how fast/powerful they were, compared to even six months ago.

I think it’s a tiny bit unreasonable that three of us on two superior catas managed to get a T3 wall down to 20% in a couple of quick minutes.

Catas need a relook I think.

Jayne.9251:

Actually I totally agree with you on catas. I was surprised when I logged in yesterday to see how fast/powerful they were, compared to even six months ago.

I think it’s a tiny bit unreasonable that three of us on two superior catas managed to get a T3 wall down to 20% in a couple of quick minutes.

Catas need a relook I think.

Actually it’s the T3 walls that had their health reduced at some point (T2 and T1 remain the same). Catapults still do the same damage they did since the WvW ranks masteries were added.

Jana.6831:

Aeolus.3615:

Well keeps and towers arent ment to be holded… this is AB with walls anyway.
Keep KT in circles and recap stuuf that is gont flip in 5-7 minutes.

Yeah sure, why would we want to hold anything? This is PvE after all!!

Hold ppt, but will eventually flip, that is the only reason.

Rotteny.8743:

Jayne.9251:

Actually I totally agree with you on catas. I was surprised when I logged in yesterday to see how fast/powerful they were, compared to even six months ago.

I think it’s a tiny bit unreasonable that three of us on two superior catas managed to get a T3 wall down to 20% in a couple of quick minutes.

Catas need a relook I think.

Actually it’s the T3 walls that had their health reduced at some point (T2 and T1 remain the same). Catapults still do the same damage they did since the WvW ranks masteries were added.

Great.

They need to take a look at that then. At the very least it should be a reasonably steady horse race to get the wall down/kill the cata to make it fair.

Jayne.9251:

They need to take a look at that then. At the very least it should be a reasonably steady horse race to get the wall down/kill the cata to make it fair.

QFT

And range/damage done by players should also be taken into account.
The problem is: There’s so much wrong with this game mode… and the question is if any of those responsible for it have any idea how it was and how it should be like.
We get all kinds of gadgets (disabler, hammer) and additional stuff to “make up for it” and more and more goes wrong and it’s catered more and more towards bigger = better.

Jana.6831:

Isn’t it without siege anyway already? Just need a few necros and eles and all walls are clear within seconds.
Screenshot: I couldn’t even throw a disabler as I had to dodge non stop.

Defending in general needs to be reworked so that defenders are not punished for trying to defend like they currently are. Massive AOEs like that just shouldn’t be allowed to be placed on walls

No. Anet would just screw it up, players would find some exploit where “ram skills are increased by 400% and speed by 500%”, then the buff would stay on players for some unknown reason and then it’d be another anet wvw disaster.

No thanks. Balance, lag, and scoring must come first before any cheesy pve crap is further thrown into wvw.

Siege is there for a reason I know a lot of people don’t like it but that’s their opinion not everyones. If you don’t like siege don’t play around it, don’t use it and don’t join a guild/server that prefers to use it. Or learn to play around it and counter it.

Jayne.9251:

Jana.6831:

Isn’t it without siege anyway already? Just need a few necros and eles and all walls are clear within seconds.
Screenshot: I couldn’t even throw a disabler as I had to dodge non stop.

Those are the best spots especially when u stand oin the ground and you just throw blueprint under the edge. Byebye meteor shower spam you won’t get mah ac.

Hasn’t worked for me for quite some time – but I quit caring about siege for the most part anyway as it’s completely useless. But feel free to show me

ETA: I’m in pve waiting for an event, good time to be “afk” and spam the forums.
Remind me that there’s no gliding in wvw when I come back, pls.