Guild Wars 2

I dueled with a guardian in WVW and he constantly blocked my shouts and i couldn’t corrupt his boons, and he kept downing me, and it seemed like it was never down.

This seems massively overpowered and needs a nerf in my opinion

Just how many blocks in the rotation kept you from missing all your attacks?

Would be nice if some one can lay this down to research.

This post seems massively trollish and should be deleted in everyone’s opinion.

he must have used it like 10 times because he just kept spamming his immune to shouts when i tried to corrupt his boons with shout.

Whenever I’m on my Guardian in WvW I always make sure I’m running my immunity to shouts. It’s very important if you want to be immune to shouts. This ensures that shouts are nullified. Best trait in the game.

On a less sarcastic and snarky note, if you are activating your shouts when a Guard has those big gigantic blue shiny shields up, then perhaps you screwed up. A thought.

This is the PvP subforum, go away.

Ya, I’ll take the bait…

First, this is for PvP. WvW has its own forum.

To your block issue:
- Base guardian has a heal skill which blocks all attacks for a short time.
- Base guardian has an elite skill which gives immunity for 3 seconds while channeled.
- The dragonhunter elite specialization has a shield which blocks all attacks from the front for a few seconds.

All of these have very obvious animations. Trying to spam skills into them is a losing proposition; just wait for them to end.

So you failed hard at aegis popping with your autos, ignored obvious signs of blocking from skills. Seems like a learn to play issue.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Unblockable

If your unable to play the gaurdians game of block n bait the you can switch ur play stlye to counter his play style.

Necro has a few skills that are unblockable, if ur fighting in wvw 1v1 then its a simple matter of using a different build different play style different unbloclable skills to bait n kill your opponent.

Wth I mash button no died
Hax/nerf/buffme right meow

LetoII.3782:

Wth I mash button no died
Hax/nerf/buffme right meow

Seems about right. guise why cant i beat this class i have never played as i dont understand its mechanics strengths and weaknesses yet i expect to face roll it because games should feel rewarding to me not to the people i play against.

Guys guys, theres only 1 shout that removes boons and its unblockable and make his following attacks unblockable. The op is just bad and doesnt know how his skills/traits work

Threather.9354:

Guys guys, theres only 1 shout that removes boons and its unblockable and make his following attacks unblockable. The op is just bad and doesnt know how his skills/traits work

NO HE’S RIGHT FIX MEOW

No doubt a condi staff reaper without soul reaping.

Nothing can save you
Traited marks
Wells

All that unblockable spam.

So you lose to obvious animations and want a nerf to skills that are crucial to Gaurdian Commanders to avoid massive amounts of damage and burst damage in this never ending Buff Condi damage to the roof Meta cause you lose a fight????

That seems legit

Guy playing a class with access to plenty of unblockable skills complains about being blocked.

I never saw such an obvious example of a L2P issue.

Gambino.2109:

Just how many blocks in the rotation kept you from missing all your attacks?

Would be nice if some one can lay this down to research.

DH f3 x2(only block frontal atacks within 3seconds) 75sec CD
DH trait that drops small aegis with 1 minute cooldown
mace 3 has 2 blocks (this skill bugs alot and misses the aegis aplyance very often on 1vs1 )
shield, 1 block on 15sec CD.
shelter, 2 seconds each 30sec CD.
retreat, 1 block on 30-24sec CD.
trap with mediocre damage has 1 block as well (24sec?)
focus skill 2, has 3 blocks, on 30-36 sec CD

i dont see this a build that makes damage(slow mace autos on melee range vs necro? i dont bite it)… and for the part that OP cant invert boons means guardian had high resistance boon wich is impossible due the sacrifice of stats to get a decent builds with high resistance alone…..
The only skill guardian has resistance even with 100% boon duration would last 2seconds, durability runes are easy to observe the effect and see that the triggered effect is in CD.
It might be possible the guardian add no boons to convert, its one way to counter necros that want to leech from that, the only boon i run is aegis and some small boons like regen/protection/stability.

Counter:
-auto atacks (very efective agaisnt aegis…)
-aoe skills
- unblockables
-marks
- symbols

Cons:
-Low mobility
-Low range
-Pidgeonholed
- Most probably low damage IF mace shield shout builds wich is the only wy to achive that many blocks….

Pros:
-very telegraphed Blocks aplyance, that every one can notice the boon and remove it with an auto atack.

P.S i run 2 heavy block DH builds, on is for frontline block n’stability other is block n’burn based.

Sorry OP necro, no guardian as 100% block uptime and invunerability is on 90sec CD and lasts only 2 seconds…

U got extremelly outplayed, what utilities the guardian used or what weapons it was using????

Well guardian can’t really lose against necro.

Junkpile.7439:

Well guardian can’t really lose against necro.

Deppends, ic alot of guardians runing full boon’d or that elite signet against necros :|
Well the result is more than cringy to watch…

Meybe the OP is quite used to fight those guardians.

Aeolus.3615:

Gambino.2109:

Just how many blocks in the rotation kept you from missing all your attacks?

Would be nice if some one can lay this down to research.

DH f3 x2(only block frontal atacks within 3seconds) 75sec CD
DH trait that drops small aegis with 1 minute cooldown
mace 3 has 2 blocks (this skill bugs alot and misses the aegis aplyance very often on 1vs1 )
shield, 1 block on 15sec CD.
shelter, 2 seconds each 30sec CD.
retreat, 1 block on 30-24sec CD.
trap with mediocre damage has 1 block as well (24sec?)
focus skill 2, has 3 blocks, on 30-36 sec CD

i dont see this a build that makes damage(slow mace autos on melee range vs necro? i dont bite it)… and for the part that OP cant invert boons means guardian had high resistance boon wich is impossible due the sacrifice of stats to get a decent builds with high resistance alone…..
The only skill guardian has resistance even with 100% boon duration would last 2seconds, durability runes are easy to observe the effect and see that the triggered effect is in CD.
It might be possible the guardian add no boons to convert, its one way to counter necros that want to leech from that, the only boon i run is aegis and some small boons like regen/protection/stability.

Counter:
-auto atacks (very efective agaisnt aegis…)
-aoe skills
- unblockables
-marks
- symbols

Cons:
-Low mobility
-Low range
-Pidgeonholed
- Most probably low damage IF mace shield shout builds wich is the only wy to achive that many blocks….

Pros:
-very telegraphed Blocks aplyance, that every one can notice the boon and remove it with an auto atack.

P.S i run 2 heavy block DH builds, on is for frontline block n’stability other is block n’burn based.

Sorry OP necro, no guardian as 100% block uptime and invunerability is on 90sec CD and lasts only 2 seconds…

U got extremelly outplayed, what utilities the guardian used or what weapons it was using????

You’re expecting the OP to accurately tell you what Weapons and Utility skills he was using…. ok I will give you weapons … but not skills

Kaimick.5109, i want OP to tell me what were his oponent weapons and utilties like meditations, or shotus or traps…

It doesnt matter the OP skills nor weaposn if he didnt atleast put some pressure on the DH, he had a wrong setup or dont understand the potention of the necro possible combos itself.

The counter to guardian blocks is the trait “soul mark”. It allows your staff skills to be unblock able. And if you are a shout build you could use the shout “nothing can save you”. This shout gives you a 4 second buff that allows any other skills in that time frame to be unblock able.

#KeepTheGuardInGuardian2017

Junkpile.7439:

Well guardian can’t really lose against necro.

Guardians don’t have wells

LetoII.3782:

Junkpile.7439:

Well guardian can’t really lose against necro.

Guardians don’t have wells

Rofl ;-)

@LetoII.3782, pun intended??

Necro’s are OP……. Guardian’s are OP….. sounds pretty balanced to me guys.I dont see the problem other then the build you made or and your skill isn’t up to par.

Guess this dude hasnt discovered condi reaper yet, best class for wvw right now.

A Condi nec is raging about Guard…. what a world (the bait was tasty)

Aeolus.3615:

Kaimick.5109, i want OP to tell me what were his oponent weapons and utilties like meditations, or shotus or traps…

It doesnt matter the OP skills nor weaposn if he didnt atleast put some pressure on the DH, he had a wrong setup or dont understand the potention of the necro possible combos itself.

Look I see what your saying but the OP literally stated a bunch of over inflated stuff to make the case seem like it is the games fault, then you ask him for things he probably has no clue about since he insisted that the guard was prema spamming blocks.

I see you want to help but some people start off broken and there is nothing you can do about it

Threather.9354:

Guys guys, theres only 1 shout that removes boons and its unblockable and make his following attacks unblockable. The op is just bad and doesnt know how his skills/traits work

To be fair, since the last patch a power reaper really can’t afford to take NCSY anymore without huge sacrifices and gaping holes elsewhere in its build.

Condi OTOH… not much to say.

Still doesn’t make it implicitly overpowered. I think the better term is “frustrating,” more than anything.