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Posted by: Hsinimod.5784

Hsinimod.5784

I’m a little pissed off about the seven day change coming up for server transfers. And ArenaNet, if you look at my account, I’ve not transferred in about 4-5 weeks. So it isn’t because I hop around for WvW. I’ve been IoJ since release.

I simply want to play with friends, who are loyal to various guilds from GW1 (or other games), and all picked different servers. And I want the Guesting Feature that was talked about soooooo long ago that still isn’t ready.

I would have been transferring often already, but I been wanting to see if the Gathering bonus from WvW would work (it doesn’t for me and other players, when we haven’t transferred, and is reported in another thread in the Bug Report Forum).

Now, because of WvW, all PvE players are affected. I can’t visit friends, which I finally decided to do since the WvW bonuses do not work. I finally decided to transfer around to avoid bugged events and skill points and do them on other servers. And now, I’ll be locked in for a week because of WvW.

I’m a WvW player on IoJ. I been planted there long. I’m all for stopping the transfers that cause hopping problems.

I’m not for affecting the entire population of players that WvW does not apply to.

This is a crap decision that makes me wonder if any forethought was used on ArenaNet’s part. Maybe the data doesn’t support me, and people that transfer for friends are a small minority? Can you even tell if people are hopping for WvW or social reasons?

My guild is having an event this Thursday. I want to transfer to Tarnished Coast to play with some friends. That means I get locked for a week with one or the other come Nov 1st. And when switching back, I’m again stuck for a week. And this has nothing to do with WvW, and yet I’m affected by it.

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Posted by: Osskil.1029

Osskil.1029

I don’t understand your pseudo mathematical equation in your headline.

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Posted by: Zilm.8459

Zilm.8459

The WvW gaming community needs this to happen more than your individual need.

Are you new to the forums? Never seen a “Stop the Free Transfers” thread?

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Posted by: addexfoe.9364

addexfoe.9364

They mentioned working on guesting in the same announcement, so rest assured they are very aware of your situation. Still no ETA on the guesting, though. I definitely don’t see it as a “crap decision”, as WvW is one of the game’s more unique features (from other MMOs that have comparable PVE), but it currently has numerous glaring issues, one of which this change partially addresses.

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Posted by: Bobbi.6801

Bobbi.6801

I don’t understand your pseudo mathematical equation in your headline.

Hello! he said : Guesting is greater than “greater than” greater than WvW.
You Equals = confused ? questionmark ?

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Posted by: Musty.3148

Musty.3148

Well I have to say that I (and obviously ANet) think that the overall health of WvW is more important than PvE server hopping.

I understand your frustration… but can’t you understand the OTHER sides frustration as well?

This is for the best.

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Posted by: Liquid.9672

Liquid.9672

As a WvW player, you should understand that this will help stabilize WvW server populations a bit until free transfers are disabled completely. This is better for the game, and better for the long term health of WvW.

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Posted by: Wizardauz.3761

Wizardauz.3761

It’s called patience people.

Free Transfers with only 1 day cooldown is ruining WvW. We all know it, we’ve all seen it. Its a fact.

ArenaNet understands the wants/needs of more PvE focused players and they’ve already told us about a guesting system that is soon to be implemented.

Are your friends going to quit the game or are you suddenly never going to talk to them again if you dont get the guesting system immediately? or even 1 week? or a month?

Find something to do, theres plenty out there. Guesting system will be here when its ready.

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Posted by: Odaman.8359

Odaman.8359

They’ll get guesting in soon. That said, wvw has suffered from transfers enough and it needed to end even if it’s at the expense of another section of the game.

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Posted by: Ricky.4706

Ricky.4706

it’s for the greater good…you can’t let an important part of the game – wvw die because a few friends can’t decide to be on the same server. You and your friends can fix this issue by joining the same server ….we in wvw can’t fix the issue with cheaters and griefers – we can’t tell anyone “don’t join our server”

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Posted by: Niim.9260

Niim.9260

I think the real issue is this change actually going to fix anything? If a server hopper is looking for a winning match, they are likely waiting a couple days, say till saturday or sunday, to see what is happening in the different match-ups. How is a 7 day transfer going to change that rotation?

All I wanted is that folks have to commit to a match, before it starts. So whatever period you transfer in, you cannot WvW for that session. So if you transfer on friday morning, your good for that night when it flips. If you transfer on monday, you gotta wait till friday when it flips. Simple, straight forward.

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Posted by: Sylosi.6503

Sylosi.6503

Maybe the data doesn’t support me, and people that transfer for friends are a small minority?

Other games manage to cope fine without anything like guesting, so I’d imagine it is not a huge demographic, just more of nice little extra that will eventually be availble in GW2, I’d say the health of WvW is more important to the long term future of their game.

PvE gets more than catered to, we’ve had resources spent on this Halloween fluff, whilst fundametnals of the game such as the class skills / traits are still full of bugs / broken.

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Posted by: Wizardauz.3761

Wizardauz.3761

Maybe the data doesn’t support me, and people that transfer for friends are a small minority?

Other games manage to cope fine without anything like guesting, so I’d imagine it is not a huge demographic, just more of nice little extra that will eventually be availble in GW2, I’d say the health of WvW is more important to the long term future of their game.

PvE gets more than catered to, we’ve had resources spent on this Halloween fluff, whilst fundametnals of the game such as the class skills / traits are still full of bugs / broken.

Arena Net has told us that they have dedicated teams handling different functions of game maintenance. The people working round the clock adjusting code for bugs/fixes are not the same as those who lets say designed the jump puzzle or anything like that. Different teams, different people, different tasks. Not like its “Im going to fix bugs today” or “Nahhh they can wait on that while i add in this sick new MINI-GAME!” over there with their working schedules.

Arena Net isn’t perfect and they aren’t god. But they’re not dumb, they’ll handle it.

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Posted by: Sylosi.6503

Sylosi.6503

Arena Net has told us that they have dedicated teams handling different functions of game maintenance. The people working round the clock adjusting code for bugs/fixes are not the same as those who lets say designed the jump puzzle or anything like that. Different teams, different people, different tasks. Not like its “Im going to fix bugs today” or “Nahhh they can wait on that while i add in this sick new MINI-GAME!” over there with their working schedules.

Arena Net isn’t perfect and they aren’t god. But they’re not dumb, they’ll handle it.

Yes I realize that is how it works (sort of, in many companies, some people, if their skills allow do get switched to where needed at times, some people do have overarching responsibilty for more than one area, etc), but regardless of which, they do not have enough people sorting out fundamental issues like class skills / traits being broken (whcih affect all areas of the game).

And yes I realize they nor anyone else is perfect, however they are taking a very long time to handle the vast number of bugs, longer than many other games I’ve played, which gives the impression they do not have enough people on it.

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Posted by: Wizardauz.3761

Wizardauz.3761

I’ll agree with you there.

They have definitely not been taking any haste (not that its always smart to do this fast) but what really gets me is they take their time (atleast i think they do) but alot of the bugs that are “fixed” dont end up fixed.

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Posted by: Loco.9508

Loco.9508

I get the OP’s point. This doesn’t solve our problems with fairweather WvW players destroying server WvW communities, and now Anet just hurt PvE players who want to play with friends on other servers. Overall this helped no one.

I can only hope guesting gets finished up soon (Nov 15th update please!!) So they can finally end free transfers, and we can start to build dedicated WvW communities

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