Guild Wars 2

So my guild is going to transfer to a new server. We used to be one of the top tier servers in the beginning but all the experienced and skilled people left us and we have no other options left than to follow.

Core information on guild
- We have a pretty stable core of players (~35) and are planning to stay as big as we currently are (~50).
- Most of our players are north European (Holland, Norway, Sweden).
- We are capable of leading a map (two commanders and enough very experienced WvW players)
-We are dedicated

Server:
So at first we were highly interested in either BT or SFR.
Seeing all comments and information here this might not be the best choice for us. We are not looking for ‘easy wins’ or to hop on the bandwagon T1 rush.
Since we think most higher tier server’s bring that more than the lower tiers ones: Yes, we do aim for higher tier.

We want a dedicated server with a stable core of guilds that have a good teamplay and communication. This is much more important than the tier they play in.

Please feel welcome to post anything that can help us,
I really appreciate all the information so far.

im really not for transfers but if you have to – then go for lower tiers servers. they will gladly welcome you and you will have always something to do.

If you can organize and your commanders can speak with other commanders as well.. then any low tier server will be happy to have you. and . you will never ever have a queue times in WvW.. what an awesome feature that is. (well sometimes queue of 1 min)

Aragiel.6132:

im really not for transfers but if you have to – then go for lower tiers servers. they will gladly welcome you and you will have always something to do.

If you can organize and your commanders can speak with other commanders as well.. then any low tier server will be happy to have you. and . you will never ever have a queue times in WvW.. what an awesome feature that is. (well sometimes queue of 1 min)

He doesn’t care about that, he only want easy win.

You’ll be more than welcome to join Gandara and there are already many guilds on there that are fully unlocked, mine [PUK] included in that listing that have space for new members.
If you want more details message me, if not then good luck in your hunt.

Aragiel.6132:

im really not for transfers but if you have to – then go for lower tiers servers. they will gladly welcome you and you will have always something to do.

If you can organize and your commanders can speak with other commanders as well.. then any low tier server will be happy to have you. and . you will never ever have a queue times in WvW.. what an awesome feature that is. (well sometimes queue of 1 min)

Thanks, but we are looking for a more high tier server.

Toubzsky.6087:

He doesn’t care about that, he only want easy win.

I don’t ‘only want easy win’.
We are tired of brainless people in our server and look for a challenge and more tactical war.
Please keep posts constructive, don’t make false assumptions and try to add useful things.

There are a lot of server where to find the challenge. Not only BT/SFR
If you want to transfer only on one of these server you are definetly lookin for an “easy win” or bandwagon or whatever u want to call it =)

Just would like to correct a misconception there about Blacktide.

The big guilds do not call the shots, the old Blacktide guilds work really well together and anyone who is willing to work together to arrange everything to win in the best way is listened to and offered access to commander voice coms and forums.

What we do tend to do is look down on guilds and people we’ve never seen before coming in to scream at us we’re doing it wrong and we should listen to them and shouldn’t play in the way we usually do. (which does happen, funnily enough)

We have little to no queues in primetime, normally we have a strong morning team but i think they’re taking a break atm, this combined with SFR coming up the rankings might make us lose some of the bandwagoners hopefully.

I second Gandara, we’re finally getting into a rhythm, we’re not perfect but we have a great community with guilds that actually talk to each other. There’s the odd guild that think they’re too good for that but the majority fight and play together well.

We’re always looking for new players to help assist in sharing experience with other players and leading the pack,

Oh and if you do choose us…. our Dolyaks are called Bessie, we believe in respecting and ensuring she is safe at all time. The queen of Gandara is important to us and when you make your decision she’ll be important to you too!!

Does it have to be an EU server? Because I think I have the ideal server for you but it’s US.

DaYeL.1495:

There are a lot of server where to find the challenge. Not only BT/SFR
If you want to transfer only on one of these server you are definetly lookin for an “easy win” or bandwagon or whatever u want to call it =)

I never said we only wanted to join those servers.
We are not looking for a easy win either.
We are just tired of the brainless zergs that don’t understand any tactic’s even after explaining them 100 times.

To be fair though, you’ll always have groups that see a commanders icon and think that means they’re awesome. Until commander icons cost badges they don’t really stand for toffee in some cases.

I’d never leave my server until it hits rock bottom but at the moment things are going up up and up but then again a lot of use refused to sleep last week as we felt we couldn’t lose to Fort Ranik again

Genev.2450:

Just would like to correct a misconception there about Blacktide.

The big guilds do not call the shots, the old Blacktide guilds work really well together and anyone who is willing to work together to arrange everything to win in the best way is listened to and offered access to commander voice coms and forums.

What we do tend to do is look down on guilds and people we’ve never seen before coming in to scream at us we’re doing it wrong and we should listen to them and shouldn’t play in the way we usually do. (which does happen, funnily enough)

We have little to no queues in primetime, normally we have a strong morning team but i think they’re taking a break atm, this combined with SFR coming up the rankings might make us lose some of the bandwagoners hopefully.

Thank you, very constructive.

Hey Legitemy,

I’m biased, but you should give Desolation a look. While it’s true we have had a shaky start, being dragged into first place before we were ready and subsequently abandoned by RUIN as they couldn’t take the heat of actually fighting, we are doing 100% better now.

We have a friendly WvW alliance which is very supportive and well executed, the problem we currently have is that we need another couple of well informed guilds to join Desolation to help us cover our borderlands! We have very short queues, community forums (we-will-desolate.net) / TS and a great sense of how to fight all of the servers in the top three tiers.

Wherever you choose to take your guild I wish you the best, but give us a once over, I promise you’ll like what you see here at Desolation.

//Wrex
IRON

Very amused when you said this:
“We are not looking for ‘easy wins’ or to hop on the bandwagon T1 rush.”
But then said you were mainly thinking of Seafarers Rest or Blacktide lol.

I wasn’t going to post but decided it was worth a shot. Any of the servers in the lower half would welcome a sizeable guild to their ranks particularly after the destruction caused, in part by free transfers.

Gunnar’s Hold is no exception, we have lost one big guild who did exactly what you do, take care of one map and allow others to take care of business elsewhere.

What we need at this moment in time is some help, someone to give our beleaguered troops a much needed morale boost and to help us turn our fortunes around.

The community is there, the infrastructure is in place and working, we lack numbers, it’s no secret and it would present a huge challenge, certainly over the Christmas period.

We do not just need numbers, we need people who are willing to take part in the community, share ideas and work with the existing players and existing guilds for the common good.

Come on over to www.gunnars-hold.eu join in on the mumble server for a friendly chat, ask any questions and we will give you honest answers.

The people we have are as good as any you will find on any other server and unlike the zerg servers who exhibit complacency at times thinking numbers will always win, we don’t have that luxury, we have to think ‘on the fly’ and act/react accordingly. Sometimes we win, sometimes we lose but we don’t quit, we play by the rules and do not tolerate cheats or hackers.

Oh, and don’t believe all you read on these forums about server strife, the server core is solid

Well if you want real challenge, come to AS . Both BT and SFR have plenty people everytime, really no point joining them now.

I will echo the post above by Tichai:

Don’t believe all you have read here about Gunnars-Hold.

I am relatively new to WvW (about 2 months) – but in that time have had an enormous amount of fun playing on the Gunnars-Hoold server.

We have an active community forum (www.gunnars-hold.eu); a server wide Mumble chat server for WvW that has a great core community, and the core of our WvW guilds and players are skilled and dedicated.

If you are looking for a challange and want to join a server where you CAN make a difference, please come and visit our forum and talk to our leaders and organisers.

Regards,

Hengis

If you’re looking beyond EU servers Fort Aspenwood could really use your help.

Twinklefairy.6739:

Very amused when you said this:
“We are not looking for ‘easy wins’ or to hop on the bandwagon T1 rush.”
But then said you were mainly thinking of Seafarers Rest or Blacktide lol.

How can you be so amused, do you always feel amused when people ask for help or information?

Anyway, ill try to stand above your tone and give a mature answer:
We have gotten the feeling that the gameplay we search is coupled with the ‘T1 rush’ ‘easy wint’ ‘bandwagon’ servers. Which makes sense since most players are looking for the gameplay described above. But we are trying to find a balans between them which will make all our players happy. This is why I ask for help and not randomly join a T1 server.

I am very happy with all replies informing us about their server. We appreciate it a lot and will look into every options. I’ve to discuss a lot with my team and will contact people for more information if possible

Thanks tichai.4351, Hengis.5417, Wrex.6798 and others.

I suggest you stick it out on your own server. Man up, wusses!

“not looking for easy win or rush t1”
“interested by BT or SFR”

this.

It is sad that you leave the FSP, if that’s your decision that I proposed the Seafarers Rest, you will find there the guilds from FSP like Velocity, LsL, C9 & some more ….
Thanks for everything good you have made to the FSP server and good luck ….

I understand your desire for top tier WvW, however it may be worth considering going for the ‘quality’ option that Gunnar’s Hold could deliver There are a couple of posts above from some of the guys so no need for me to add any more except to mention that until server transfers cost gold, all servers will have a degree of instability. When that day of free transfers actually approaches, I suspect chaos will ensue, so I could find a low tier yet skilled and dedicated server like GH paying dividends to the thinking players who want a home rather than a rat-race.

Hey there Legitemy,

I am aswell from Desolation and what Wrex told you is 100% true we have a good communication with all the guilds on our server…….with the mark of RUIN we build our community and now we work more closely together then ever:)
If you want fun with good organization+communication and yes you can have them all together come to Desolation, see for yourself and check our server.

Hope you decide for Desolation if not i will ofcourse wish you well in your search for your true server that makes GW2 fun for your guild……cus that matters most:)

My ingame name is Felerina Dalure 1st commander of (FG).

/Salute

Belfagor Diabolos.1940:

It is sad that you leave the FSP, if that’s your decision that I proposed the Seafarers Rest, you will find there the guilds from FSP like Velocity, LsL, C9 & some more ….
Thanks for everything good you have made to the FSP server and good luck ….

Alot of pain i read from your words mate….i…wanna ……say…..grouphuggggggggg hehe
But on a serieus note i understand your situation it is hard to say goodbye to good people.

not talking about RUIN cuz that was a blessing…you always find things out after the blow;)

Legitemy.9041:

Twinklefairy.6739:

Very amused when you said this:
“We are not looking for ‘easy wins’ or to hop on the bandwagon T1 rush.”
But then said you were mainly thinking of Seafarers Rest or Blacktide lol.

How can you be so amused, do you always feel amused when people ask for help or information?

Anyway, ill try to stand above your tone and give a mature answer:
We have gotten the feeling that the gameplay we search is coupled with the ‘T1 rush’ ‘easy wint’ ‘bandwagon’ servers. Which makes sense since most players are looking for the gameplay described above. But we are trying to find a balans between them which will make all our players happy. This is why I ask for help and not randomly join a T1 server.

I am very happy with all replies informing us about their server. We appreciate it a lot and will look into every options. I’ve to discuss a lot with my team and will contact people for more information if possible

Thanks tichai.4351, Hengis.5417, Wrex.6798 and others.

You say you don’t want to join the bandwagon T1 rush or get easy wins, but your main choices are Blacktide, the server that is currently at the top of tier 1 and has been for a while, and Seafarer’s Rest which is currently the biggest bandwagon server gunning for T1 and is currently stomping it’s opposition in T2. Your main choices directly contradict what you said you are looking for, that’s what is amusing.

“Blacktide has low queues” <— LOL at that.

If you seriously want a challenge you should try out Ruins of Surmia, Fissure of Woe or Vabbi.
And going for a T1/T2 Server: No excuses, you’re bandwagonning.

Twinklefairy.6739:

Legitemy.9041:

Twinklefairy.6739:

Very amused when you said this:
“We are not looking for ‘easy wins’ or to hop on the bandwagon T1 rush.”
But then said you were mainly thinking of Seafarers Rest or Blacktide lol.

How can you be so amused, do you always feel amused when people ask for help or information?

Anyway, ill try to stand above your tone and give a mature answer:
We have gotten the feeling that the gameplay we search is coupled with the ‘T1 rush’ ‘easy wint’ ‘bandwagon’ servers. Which makes sense since most players are looking for the gameplay described above. But we are trying to find a balans between them which will make all our players happy. This is why I ask for help and not randomly join a T1 server.

I am very happy with all replies informing us about their server. We appreciate it a lot and will look into every options. I’ve to discuss a lot with my team and will contact people for more information if possible

Thanks tichai.4351, Hengis.5417, Wrex.6798 and others.

You say you don’t want to join the bandwagon T1 rush or get easy wins, but your main choices are Blacktide, the server that is currently at the top of tier 1 and has been for a while, and Seafarer’s Rest which is currently the biggest bandwagon server gunning for T1 and is currently stomping it’s opposition in T2. Your main choices directly contradict what you said you are looking for, that’s what is amusing.

Thanks for making a proper post, but you don’t really give a good respond on my ‘good gameplay’ vs ‘bandwagenoning’ balancing issue.

Anyways, I’ve come to realize that we should look much further then just BT or SFR.
You people say other servers have very good team play and skilled players and they don’t have to be that T1 or T2 server everyone is bandwagonning to…?

I will change topic start.

I’m in this guild as well. A quick response to everyone who is negative:
I’m a 100% active WvW player and my main map is EB. I have fought for this server (day and night) from the beginning and never planned on leaving.
But Far shiverpeaks got to a point where it became a PVE server. Everyone who was active in WvW left to another server. I like though fights. But constantly being outmanned and not having support from any1 else except our guild and few other players (most of those will follow us aswell) made me change my opinion.

Now a reply to those who think we want easy wins and only are interested in SFR and BT. The answer is NO.
It just happen to be that most FSP players went to these servers. Thats why we received the most information about these servers and felt a little bit connected with them.
This doesnt mean we only want to go to on of these servers.
We’re willing to join any server that’s worth it, but we need to know more about them first. Thats why legitemy made this forum post.

Thanks to all who understanded the reason of this topic and posted information about their server. Have seen other interesting servers as well so far.

sbi(na server-top tier) although we are full usually, eventually you can get guild over. I realize you are looking for a european server but we sure could use european talent over here, and we wont be negative, as there is more than enough room here… we have almost no que time, especially at night

currently with the way things are on SFR it would not be the right server for you, the reason why i say this is that we have long queue’s atm and half the WvW guild atm cannot get all their payers onto WvW and i am guessing the same will be for blacktide.

i cannot stop you from coming to SFR or going to BT and i am only being honest with you. we do have a stable core of guilds that have good teamplay and exelent communication.

maybe desolation could be best suited for you

I would also recommend Deso.

They have a pretty great group of players at their core and they put up some wonderful fights against us the last 2 weeks. I really enjoyed them and know they could use the players.

@ Lightvision: Thanks. We’ll take that in count. Being able to get our members in WvW together is important for us.

Coraliine.1597:

I would also recommend Deso.

They have a pretty great group of players at their core and they put up some wonderful fights against us the last 2 weeks. I really enjoyed them and know they could use the players.

Didnt Desolution only drop after the RUIN guild left them behind? I heard they just won position because of the nightcapping RUIN did and after they got beat at Tier 1 RUIN joined blacktide and were left behind for a freefall.

Speaking of Desolation and que. Atm there is only que to one BL where IRON play.

@Legitemy Desolation was carried by RUIN to T1. We didin’t have numbers to stay in T1, but now we are working hard to build our position back.

Deso isn’t in a freefall at all, true we went into T3 this week but we’re between T2 and T3 which I think is a nice, competative place to be,this is being achieved by a tight community and truthfully we could use a few more WvW guilds to keep us at this nice, competative level.

I can highly recommend Gandara if you want even well fought battles, we have had close matchs for 3 weeks running. Recovering from 30k behind mid-week to win. There are some highly focused WvW guilds here already that you could co-ordinate with.
Like others servers there are some mindless zergs at times, usually if there happens to be no commander.

Currently queue’s are normally avoided but no more than 30 minutes if there is one.

I recommend Desolation. We are always aiming for higher positions, but are not the top dog atm, so you wouldn’t be seen as “winning team joiners”. You’d get in the good fights with us tho, don’t worry about that.

If ure not looking to jump on an already higly teired server but still want competition and fun then come to RoF. we desperatley need numbers as this is the only reason we are yet to make a big improvement on out tier rankings. We have a core group of guild who all use the alliance teamspeak to dicuss tactics and statergies. yes we are currently getting our kitten handed to us by AG but this is soley down to numbers during our off peak times 5AM GMT-11AM GMT. when AG just cap everything. during the rest of the day we actually have some intense fights and can push them back. so why not give RoF a go? ud be more than welcome

Desolation
they are betwen t2 and t3 with no Queue .
Good players , poor coverage.
Sfr an Bt got full queue on all maps at Eu peak.

I also suggest Desolation, we are currently in Tier 3 and quite strong there, however we are a bit weak in Tier 2,

If u guys join us in desolation, it would definitely be strong to put a big fight against SFR/Blacktides kind of server.

If you want to have a challenge, join Ruins of Surmia. My rl friends and myself moved there a couple of weeks ago, because we didnt like the queues and the always different ppl in WvW. Now i pretty much know everyone and everyone knows me, so we are very familiar with each other, communication is strong between the guilds, but we just dont have the ppl to really beat the high population servers.
On the reset (this friday), when we moved one tier up, we did hold SM for several hours, till to many ppl left and we could stand the ground anymore. So you will see we have potential, but not the numbers to hold everything.

Would really like to see some new players in Ruins of Surmia, even though we are dropping a tier next week probably
but we will give them a fight

Btw you will never see queues here (i think i had two in several weeks and i play wvw a lot)

nojas.8209:

If you want to have a challenge, join Ruins of Surmia. My rl friends and myself moved there a couple of weeks ago, because we didnt like the queues and the always different ppl in WvW. Now i pretty much know everyone and everyone knows me, so we are very familiar with each other, communication is strong between the guilds, but we just dont have the ppl to really beat the high population servers.
On the reset (this friday), when we moved one tier up, we did hold SM for several hours, till to many ppl left and we could stand the ground anymore. So you will see we have potential, but not the numbers to hold everything.

Would really like to see some new players in Ruins of Surmia, even though we are dropping a tier next week probably
but we will give them a fight

Btw you will never see queues here (i think i had two in several weeks and i play wvw a lot)

I dont know the WvW status on RoS i dont play aganist hem since a lot.
But we are lefting WSR cuz we are the only WvWers Guilds on that server, we want to cooperate with a lot of guilds and do not play again alone in WvW while the randoms make JP or Fractals.

DaYeL.1495:

I dont know the WvW status on RoS i dont play aganist hem since a lot.
But we are lefting WSR cuz we are the only WvWers Guilds on that server, we want to cooperate with a lot of guilds and do not play again alone in WvW while the randoms make JP or Fractals.

As I wrote we are short on numbers. So we dont have a lot of guilds playing obviously… If you want to have a lot of WvW Guilds (and therefore obviously queues, you are wrong at RoS)
But we got at least three dedicated wvw guilds (not telling we are only doing wvw, but at least we got a reasonable amount of ppl playing wvw)

OMG i confused the topic sry.
Thinkin im wroting on my info request topic…. =(

Sry to the topic starter.

Go for Blacktide if you are a prime time guilde, since they have got the number, but not many guild that can actually do something.
It’s the same for Desolation for the number part, but they have close to no guild that can do something. It’s big FFA server that can’t do anything if they don’t have a guild like Ruin to score point during the night, it’s almost the same for Blacktide and Xaoc, but it’s morning cap by EU players.

If you go for blacktide, you might get something like VIzunah, a server full of pug and bandwagoners who are coordinated that win because of the advantage of the number people over time, but not only because of that.

Truebanana.5936:

It’s the same for Desolation for the number part, but they have close to no guild that can do something. .

They are on Deso and are a small guild. We got a lot more guilds with bigger numbers.
And im not gonna feed you anymore mr Troll.

See you on the battlefield.

Desolation is winning tier 3 by almost 35k lead.. hardly freefalling.

We only lost tier 2 cos of superior numbers and nightcapping.

Just up and move to the server you want. Why the need to come announce it here? Its like you are somehow looking to boost your legitimacy when you make your move.

Raf.1078:

Just up and move to the server you want. Why the need to come announce it here? Its like you are somehow looking to boost your legitimacy when you make your move.

I don’t think you understand the reason of this topic then. (Or even read what was written). This topic was made to gather information about the situation in other servers.
To make it easier for us to find the right server.