Guild Banners of Neglect

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Posted by: Danny.8427

Danny.8427

Greetings, sirs and madams.

It seems that some guilds have not been informed about claim etiquette. While your pride may be bursting at the seams, realize that your guild’s claim over a Keep, Supply Camp, or Tower is a promise: your guild will be responsible for ensuring upgrades are delivered to that particular cog of war.

In the case your guild does not ensure the upgrades to a Keep’s waypoint, the reinforced walls of a tower, or the double-helping of supplies from a caravan, then you are not deserving of hanging your emblem upon the building’s walls. By transgressing this basic and productive etiquette, you agree to subject your guild to the following:

- instructional feedback (read: slandering and belittling) for your guild, its actions, and integrity;
- shaming of your guild and emblem on this communication channel.

Soldiers! Do NOT be quick to provide instructional feedback without first observing etiquette, yourself!

1.) Ask, in the borderlands of the claim, whether or not the guild is currently in the act of upgrading the keep, and …
2.) visit the keep itself to confirm that no progress is indeed taking place.

In the case of silence from a guild representative and confirmation of their shame, please come here and share the banners of the negligent guild so that the rest of us may spit upon their failures — like so.

If this is your guild banner, you are a disgrace to Tarnished Coast.

http://i.imgur.com/06VQ8.jpg

At Shadaran Hills sits this banner of a sword with wings upon a shield, its emblem mocking those of us that would be better responsible toward upgrades. You, irresponsible guild, place our advantage at a lower bar than should be set at the beginning of this week’s new battle. You, shameful guild, have claimed and deserted the keep upon which your namesake sits. You, negligent scum, are a disappointment that measures less than my band of two individuals.

It is your responsibility to stuff my instructional feedback back down my throat. For the good of our army, I wish it so.

As a comparison point, this is what happens when I and a single other guildmate ensure the best possible quality of a humble supply camp — just like the rest of our responsible guilds do with their particular claims.

http://i.imgur.com/Lq9pv.jpg

Our guild does not have much coin, but we recognize our responsibility within the greater Tarnished Coast army. The machine of war runs best when each cog spins optimally. It is unfair for responsible individuals to pick up your slack when their banners do not gloriously adorn their efforts.

FOR GLORY!

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Posted by: Epsilon.3601

Epsilon.3601

The only function of claiming a guild is to provide buffs to the area. A guild receives no additional benefits for claiming a guild, so it should not expend any extra resources in upgrades. I want the guild groups moving together and attacking targets efficiently, not standing in a keep to ensure it’s upgrade progression.

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Posted by: ShaunZ.1098

ShaunZ.1098

^^
Yeah … so don’t go claiming any guilds!

Gremmil – Fort Aspenwood Engineer
It’s [NERF] or nothing!

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Posted by: Kiviar.7063

Kiviar.7063

Just because it isn’t your guild banner flying over a tower does not mean you can’t upgrade it. I have spent 100x more upgrading other guild’s towers than I have my own.

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Posted by: Fallensbane.8420

Fallensbane.8420

Anyone can upgrade a camp, tower, keep or castle REGARDLESS of who has their guild flag on it. So disregard the OP and instead focus on SHARING the responsibility of upgrading keeps so that you spread the cost across the server making it cheap.

The only exception is IMO big guilds should hold claim over the Castle and Keeps with orbs, primarily to keep WvW buffs running at them

80 Ranger • 80 Necromancer • 80 Guardian • 80 Mesmer • 80 Engineer
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Posted by: Danny.8427

Danny.8427

Even the naysayer admits that there is an advantage to having a guild responsibly claim certain nodes. Thank you for proving my point.

While you and yours may be satisfied with anyone being less than that responsible, Tarnished Coast benefits most from everyone chipping in and fulfilling the glory of their name.

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Posted by: Bertrand.3057

Bertrand.3057

No, the “naysayer” is emphasizing the difference between your statement that only the guild that has claimed the location is responsible for upgrades purchased with coin and the fact that major fortifications should be claimed by guilds that can provide buffs purchased with influence. What you are saying is potentially counterproductive for the reasons given above.

You may have your own opinion about who should spend coin on upgrades, but if you’re going to be judgmental please keep that to yourself.

Talleyrand, Captain and Commander of the Bloody Pirates
Asura on patrol in defense of Gandara and Bessie!
Administrator of http://thisisgandara.com

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Posted by: Senti.5372

Senti.5372

Claiming without buffs ranks right up there with emptying out the supply.

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Posted by: Sporadicus.1028

Sporadicus.1028

Claiming also denotes a sort of obligatory defense to that particular building.

Your claim to a building shows that you and your guild:

1) are willing to defend that building;
2) are willing to assist in leading upgrades to a building;
3) are willing to assist in keeping supplies coming to the building; and, most importantly,
4) are willing to repair any damaged walls and gates on that building.

A guild occupying a building is the equivalent to an army occupying a friendly town or a fort. You are tasked with the upkeep of an area.

If you claim the area and don’t have the power to perform the aforementioned tasks, then you are failing not only you, but your guild and your server.

Malkin Rawl – Charr Engineer, Tarnished Coast
Loudmouth, lousy PvPer, and mediocre PvEer.
I don’t own, I just play

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Posted by: Tortun.5946

Tortun.5946

I kinda think if you plant your banner you should have 1 or 2 people remain behind but the game doesn’t reward you for keeping what you already have… It rewards the server but whilst your team is out there killing and earning XP you can be twiddling your thumbs until the other server plucks up the courage to attack.

I sat on Crags most of the day today, making sure we had enough siege equipment, calling in the group to mop up the zerg that came along which thankfully the siege equipment gave us enough time to hold them off.

But very little reward for guarding our assets… I think if a guild places a banner on a keep then they should have to stay in some capacity at that keep

Tortun – Protector of Gandara and Bessie!
WvWvW Player Who Doesn’t Have Much of A Clue