Guild Wars 2

Im trying to claim camps and towers to give my world 5 extra supplies. Sometimes I get the option, sometimes not. Whats the rules to be able to claim a camp and tower?

From gw2 wiki:
Whenever an objective is captured, any guild may claim it. A claimed objective will display its guild’s banner and benefit from any Art of War Upgrades. Guilds can claim only one objective per map. A guild cannot claim an objective as long as the respective guild claiming NPC is under the effects of Righteous Indignation that lasts longer than 1 minute.

Facts:

• No one have claimed the camp/tower yet
• I have allready claimed another camp/tower and I wish to override it
• Its been more than 4 min since I last capture a camp/tower and claimed it
• My guild is small (20 ppl, I read somewhere that bigger guilds have priority on claiming, anyone can confirm?)

I have seen guilds running from camp to camp and claim it, so it should work, it just doesnt for my guild.

If your guild has the most people in the circle when you captured the objective (let’s say camp), your guild can claim it first. Others guilds have to wait 3 (NOT 5) minutes before they can claim, so when the Supervisor’s buff reaches 2 min., you can claim it.

There is sometimes a cooldown for this option. If you stay on camp for 5 minutes(at least until RI is out), then you will have this option to claim land.
I dont know why it sometimes pop out immediatelly, sometimes its on CD.

It does not matter how long ago you claimed last camp/tower. It depends how long ago you took the camp/tower and if Lord have Ri or not.

Bigger groups have priority only with that they can set one member to every lord on map. Otherwise there is classic: first to come, first to serve.

And I seen guilds with no banner. In this case you just need to read what Lord is saying. If it is something like: already claimed, then guild with no banner claimed it.

Hule.8794:

There is sometimes a cooldown for this option.

This X variable is exactly what my question is all about.

I just wish there was a way to override a claim if the guild that claims it does not put up any buffs on it. If you do not place a buff on a claimed objective withing a given period of time that claim should drop off.

For some reason, after taking a camp or tower, ~50% of the time if someone takes supply before you can get to the guild claimer and claim, it locks out the ability for ANY GUILD AT ALL to claim for at least 5 minutes. It has been this way since launch and does not seem to be on Anet’s radar. Why taking supply would have anything to do with claiming an objective is beyond me, but I guess weirder things have happened.

Neeho.3859:

For some reason, after taking a camp or tower, ~50% of the time if someone takes supply before you can get to the guild claimer and claim, it locks out the ability for ANY GUILD AT ALL to claim for at least 5 minutes. It has been this way since launch and does not seem to be on Anet’s radar. Why taking supply would have anything to do with claiming an objective is beyond me, but I guess weirder things have happened.

Ive been unable to claim camps when it has just been me and my guildies taking it over. No one have taken supplies before I try to claim it.

If you read wiki- under RI you cannot claim it.
Because it is sometimes bugged, you can earlier. But originally it should be after Ri is gone.
Did you waited there for 5 minutes to give it a try?

Today I was able to claim all camps we took over. We did however roamed more with ourselves today.

When we joined the zerg for an attack on a keep, I spammed F on guild claimer location while we took it over. I was able to claim it at first, but after closing the dialog the option disapeared.

We were 1 min late on an attack on a tower as my team allready took it. We then didnt had the option to claim it. We waited and when the RI went down to around 1:50 we could claim it.

Its still very confusing to me how the mechanism actually works. And if I should be unable to claim stuff while the RI is up, is that considered an exploit?

Danny.6417:

If your guild has the most people in the circle when you captured the objective (let’s say camp), your guild can claim it first. Others guilds have to wait 3 (NOT 5) minutes before they can claim, so when the Supervisor’s buff reaches 2 min., you can claim it.

That is interesting. Do you have a link to that information? I have been wondering about this claiming mechanic myself and I would like to confirm this information.

Thank you

Vaugh.7193:

Today I was able to claim all camps we took over. We did however roamed more with ourselves today.

You do realize that a guild buff only works on one camp/tower/keep at a time? The minute you claim another one, it releases your hold on the previous one.

It’s also a source of a lot of angst for a lot of WvWers to have a keep claimed (sometimes anything claimed – tower/supply camp, etc.) without your guild putting up a buff of some sort, even if it’s +5 supply. Most aren’t as fussed about towers (it really depends on the situation — if it’s the only thing your team owns, there may be some noses out of joint, lol), but supply camps and keeps benefit greatly from a buff.

It’s not about who capped the tower, but more how your team overall can benefit from it.

If you claim it without a buff, you’re preventing another guild WITH a buff to come in and augment the camp/tower/keep. It’s locked in “permanently” until the tower/camp/keep is taken by the enemy or you go claim something else on map.

The claiming needs an overhaul as a whole.
Who isn’t sick of non-buff guilds claiming keeps just to have their logo displayed on it?

As for claiming a camp right after taking it, some say that if your guild did the most damage to the claimer, you will be able to claim it right away. I’m not sure what the actual coding is.

Jayne.9251:

Vaugh.7193:

Today I was able to claim all camps we took over. We did however roamed more with ourselves today.

You do realize that a guild buff only works on one camp/tower/keep at a time? The minute you claim another one, it releases your hold on the previous one.

It’s also a source of a lot of angst for a lot of WvWers to have a keep claimed (sometimes anything claimed – tower/supply camp, etc.) without your guild putting up a buff of some sort, even if it’s +5 supply. Most aren’t as fussed about towers (it really depends on the situation — if it’s the only thing your team owns, there may be some noses out of joint, lol), but supply camps and keeps benefit greatly from a buff.

If you claim it without a buff, you’re preventing another guild WITH a buff to come in and augment the camp/tower/keep. It’s locked in “permanently” until the tower/camp/keep is taken by the enemy or you go claim something else on map.

I think you missed his point. He mentioned that he was ‘able’ to claim all the camps, not that he had all the camps claimed at the same time. Anyways, your post, while informative, is not actually relevant to the question at hand.

ArkAngel.7940:

He mentioned that he was ‘able’ to claim all the camps, not that he had all the camps claimed at the same time..

Doesn’t “all” and “camps” (plural) imply more than one? He couldn’t claim all at the same time anyhow.

I added the information because it is a source of much friction among WvW vets that folks will come in and claim a camp without a buff simply because they want to see their banner up there, when there are practical and beneficial uses for guilds that do have buffs. Adding that information to this conversation is an effort to educate/help.

Jayne.9251:

ArkAngel.7940:

He mentioned that he was ‘able’ to claim all the camps, not that he had all the camps claimed at the same time..

Doesn’t “all” and “camps” (plural) imply more than one? He couldn’t claim all at the same time anyhow.

I added the information because it is a source of much friction among WvW vets that folks will come in and claim a camp without a buff simply because they want to see their banner up there, when there are practical and beneficial uses for guilds that do have buffs. Adding that information to this conversation is an effort to educate/help.

I emphasized the word “able” because I believe he meant that each camp he went to cap, he was able to claim it. And he summed it by just saying all, and “camps” because he capped more then just one camp. He also mentioned that he did it with more of his guild mates(implied) as to test the majority theory. Which so far seems to be our answer unless someone can link an official source.

And I stand firm that your information is helpful and informative, but irrelevant to the question of why we can sometimes claim an objective but sometimes we can’t right after it is capped. Which is what this thread is about

ArkAngel.7940:

Jayne.9251:

ArkAngel.7940:

He mentioned that he was ‘able’ to claim all the camps, not that he had all the camps claimed at the same time..

Doesn’t “all” and “camps” (plural) imply more than one? He couldn’t claim all at the same time anyhow.

I added the information because it is a source of much friction among WvW vets that folks will come in and claim a camp without a buff simply because they want to see their banner up there, when there are practical and beneficial uses for guilds that do have buffs. Adding that information to this conversation is an effort to educate/help.

I emphasized the word “able” because I believe he meant that each camp he went to cap, he was able to claim it. And he summed it by just saying all, and “camps” because he capped more then just one camp. He also mentioned that he did it with more of his guild mates(implied) as to test the majority theory. Which so far seems to be our answer unless someone can link an official source.

And I stand firm that your information is helpful and informative, but irrelevant to the question of why we can sometimes claim an objective but sometimes we can’t right after it is capped. Which is what this thread is about

That’s fine. But if he’s out there claiming “all the camps” he should know what happens when he does that. You’re acting like a thread moderator, and I’m not entirely sure why, lol. What difference does it make if I add information that can be useful? Why are you policing this thread?

Jayne.9251:

ArkAngel.7940:

Jayne.9251:

ArkAngel.7940:

He mentioned that he was ‘able’ to claim all the camps, not that he had all the camps claimed at the same time..

Doesn’t “all” and “camps” (plural) imply more than one? He couldn’t claim all at the same time anyhow.

I added the information because it is a source of much friction among WvW vets that folks will come in and claim a camp without a buff simply because they want to see their banner up there, when there are practical and beneficial uses for guilds that do have buffs. Adding that information to this conversation is an effort to educate/help.

I emphasized the word “able” because I believe he meant that each camp he went to cap, he was able to claim it. And he summed it by just saying all, and “camps” because he capped more then just one camp. He also mentioned that he did it with more of his guild mates(implied) as to test the majority theory. Which so far seems to be our answer unless someone can link an official source.

And I stand firm that your information is helpful and informative, but irrelevant to the question of why we can sometimes claim an objective but sometimes we can’t right after it is capped. Which is what this thread is about

That’s fine. But if he’s out there capping “all the camps” he should know what happens when he does that. You’re acting like a thread moderator, and I’m not entirely sure why, lol. What difference does it make if I add information that can be useful? Why are you policing this thread?

I’m sure if you read his initial post you’ll see that he understands that only one objective can be claimed at a time. And to answer you, information is good yes, but if it doesn’t help us get to the answer of the question, it will start to derail off topic like what we are doing right now. I’m on this thread because I too want to know the official answer to his question. Nothing more then that.

If this question isn’t answered officially. I will also test the majority theory and I’ll tell you what the results are.

To kill the off topic discussion:
Its stated in my orginal question that I want to give my world +5 supply buff on camps/tower. And Im trying to find the answere why I cant at some times.

But big thanks for bumping the question tho

Danny.6417:

If your guild has the most people in the circle when you captured the objective (let’s say camp), your guild can claim it first. Others guilds have to wait 3 (NOT 5) minutes before they can claim, so when the Supervisor’s buff reaches 2 min., you can claim it.

This is intresting, kind of reflects my own experiences from yesterday.

It however doesnt explain why I got the option to claim the keep in the zerg when I spammed F. After closing the dialog and entering again, the option dissapeared. Is it a bugg? Exploit? Or an intentional bypass to make a small guilds claim stuff if eager enough?

Contribution of the cap …. Comes into it if you run with a lot of pugs your guild might not be the main guild capping it etc… So you have to wait the timer think it was 5mins
To be honest I think it mostly Bugs out then anything else

Swapping claim from a guild with expired buffs can take time. It isn’t the same as capturing but if I claim a camp in order to release claim on a tower there is a short delay before the tower clears. As far as owning multiple locations a guild can claim one location on multiple maps and the buffs will be active on each claimed location.

Vaugh, yesterday I spammed the claimer right after flip. Within a half second the claim option was available. I closed the box and opened again it was gone. This was an SM cap and there was only about 2 other people from my guild compared to the 50 our zerg guild fielded. I’m sure that spamming the claimer right after cap is a bug. I still haven’t tested the majority theory.

And I’m still waiting to hear where Danny got that information.

Yes, a few seconds after capture the option is available for everyone, but not everyone can claim right then. It’s just a visual bug.

ArkAngel.7940:

I still haven’t tested the majority theory.

Ive payed attention to who and how many from other guilds that are around when capturing camps and towers. All the times when my guild had the majority inside the capturing circle I was able to claim it. Even with a commander inside it from a larger guild (the size of the guild theory can be written off).

Dannys answers seems to be correct.

Well that’s good. Its not that I didn’t trust Danny’s answer I just wanted to know where he got it from. I think we are safe to say that majority wins then.

Danny.6417:

If your guild has the most people in the circle when you captured the objective (let’s say camp), your guild can claim it first. Others guilds have to wait 3 (NOT 5) minutes before they can claim, so when the Supervisor’s buff reaches 2 min., you can claim it.

This is the correct answer. I don’t think there is an official source for this, but it has not been wrong for months.

It did not always use to be this way. I think they implemented it to stop people from reping personal guilds with the supply buff running. It is quite cheap/easy to make two personal guilds, and buy enough influence to keep the +5 supply buff going all the time. Now you cannot just take a camp, rep, claim, get 15 supply, then rep back.