Guild Wars 2

First of all Hi everyone!

First I want to say that I am not a guild leader or a commander. I’m just a normal Gunners Hold Player.

As many already know, yesterday Kiss has left Gunners hold.

The main reason is the small number of players from the server. I think this argument is quite justified, wishing no criticism. Each guild should play wherever it makes more fun for them.

That such a huge guild is leaving us brings consequences. (I think this is normal)
We are now going to definitely lose a few positions in the WvWvW-Ranking.

What does that mean for us? How do we counteract?
We are inferior to most enemy servers numerically!
Now it is very important that we stick together.
It is even more important that our active commanders now move the masses. (Can we even talk yet of masses on Gunners Hold? LOL xD)

We have many good players on Gunners hold. We must now learn to transfer from smaller teams to a mass, so we can still be successful as a minority.

Cooperation, cohesion and motivation are now our magic words!

I hope I can motivate some of the other players to continue to fight for Gunners hold.
It is far too easy to call oneself a “Gunners Holder” if everything goes well.
A true Gunners Holder proves itself when the ship begins to sink.

Never forget: “When the going gets tough, the tough gets going”

I hope many support my opinion!

PS: Sorry for my bad english!

The problem
The key problem is transfers. They shouldn’t exist at all. We’ve had a lot of guilds jumping from server to server and the automated ranking system can’t keep up, even when it’s a one week gap between jumps.

The solution
We need transfers to be locked down for long periods (3 months, maybe more, imho).

We have to pray to Arenanet for this solution to be implemented yesterday, a month ago, even!

Consequences we have to deal with now
Our server is placed way higher than it deserves to be. It will go down the list, but in the meantime, we’re going to get a buttkicking like no other (again). I like irony.

The problem with these consequences is that with transfers still available, people might transfer again, 20 GOTO The Problem.

Frankly, and this is my opinion, it’s good to get rid of these easy-life (yes, even moving to a lower ranked server with higher WvW population is easy-life) quitters. I think we’ll get down to a core of WvW players (I’m not going anywhere) who have the balls to man up and take it, and we’ll be stronger for that. It’ll be a challenge to scrape ourselves off the bottom of the ladder

I wish you best of luck in achieving your goal! You’ll see, you will learn to work together even better than those servers that are just zerging around. In the end your players will be much better WvW players because they have no choice than to adapt (or flee the sinking ship).
Best wishes from Aurora Glade, who had the same problem some time ago!

Problem is – the WvW focused people who remain behind will find it increasingly difficult to find like-minded people and also be more likely to move.

It’s a vicious cycle – because even if the tough get going, the sheer number of tough people will cause issues. It might turn a server into a PvE server.

Skydda.3192:

I wish you best of luck in achieving your goal! You’ll see, you will learn to work together even better than those servers that are just zerging around. In the end your players will be much better WvW players because they have no choice than to adapt (or flee the sinking ship).
Best wishes from Aurora Glade, who had the same problem some time ago!

Thank you very much! I wish you a glorious future!!

Xandax.1753:

Problem is – the WvW focused people who remain behind will find it increasingly difficult to find like-minded people and also be more likely to move.

It’s a vicious cycle – because even if the tough get going, the sheer number of tough people will cause issues. It might turn a server into a PvE server.

Yes I agree with you, this could really happen. I still hope that we can make it.

Svarty.8019:

The problem
The key problem is transfers. They shouldn’t exist at all. We’ve had a lot of guilds jumping from server to server and the automated ranking system can’t keep up, even when it’s a one week gap between jumps.

The solution
We need transfers to be locked down for long periods (3 months, maybe more, imho).

We have to pray to Arenanet for this solution to be implemented yesterday, a month ago, even!

Consequences we have to deal with now
Our server is placed way higher than it deserves to be. It will go down the list, but in the meantime, we’re going to get a buttkicking like no other (again). I like irony.

The problem with these consequences is that with transfers still available, people might transfer again, 20 GOTO The Problem.

Frankly, and this is my opinion, it’s good to get rid of these easy-life (yes, even moving to a lower ranked server with higher WvW population is easy-life) quitters. I think we’ll get down to a core of WvW players (I’m not going anywhere) who have the balls to man up and take it, and we’ll be stronger for that. It’ll be a challenge to scrape ourselves off the bottom of the ladder

Where have you found the piece of paper with my thoughts that you write it in here! ;P

/sign 100%

Having spent the entire week playing on Gunnar’s Hold with a few friends, I noticed something that really astonished me.

Gunnar’s Hold is a Tier 6 European server, we came from Sanctum of Rall a Tier 2 US server. Yet I will say that the average player on GH is significantly better than the average player on SoR.

I have to imagine it’s because you guys are a lower pop server with a numbers disadvantage that you’ve had to develope skill in order to survive, but you’re not going to find that same skill level on the more populated US servers. We can’t get people on Teamspeak or Mumble, we can’t get them to carry supply, we can’t get them to build siege, they just want to hack on walls with swords.

I really think a week from now you’re going to want to transfer back. I know we are considering staying here.

Thank you for your kind words, PeeTee, exactly what Gunnars needs now =)

Peetee.9406:

Having spent the entire week playing on Gunnar’s Hold with a few friends, I noticed something that really astonished me.

Gunnar’s Hold is a Tier 6 European server, we came from Sanctum of Rall a Tier 2 US server. Yet I will say that the average player on GH is significantly better than the average player on SoR.

I have to imagine it’s because you guys are a lower pop server with a numbers disadvantage that you’ve had to develope skill in order to survive, but you’re not going to find that same skill level on the more populated US servers. We can’t get people on Teamspeak or Mumble, we can’t get them to carry supply, we can’t get them to build siege, they just want to hack on walls with swords.

I really think a week from now you’re going to want to transfer back. I know we are considering staying here.

Thank you for the compliment. I hope you integrate as quickly as possible with us. Such motivated players are always welcome.
Do not leave us. You will not regret it. We are not many, but many of us are very valid player!

Good Luck! .)

There are some very, very experienced WvW players/ guildleaders and commanders on Gunnars Hold server.

Early on in the game, a couple of guilds left to join a higher ranked server but GH still have the core and drive to provide as much of a problem to any server they face.

We’ve been in a matchup with them and AM for 2 weeks now and it’s been a great fight. It’s a shame they’ve lost KISS guild recently, as it gave them a bit more options in the field but it’s a hiccup, rather than a disaster. After all, form is temporary, class is permanent.

Stay classy GH

Low queue times, experienced WVW guilds and a great community. GH’s got a lot going for it if anyone is looking to transfer a WvW guild there – Just sayin’

Regards,

Slips

Peetee.9406:

Having spent the entire week playing on Gunnar’s Hold with a few friends, I noticed something that really astonished me.

Gunnar’s Hold is a Tier 6 European server, we came from Sanctum of Rall a Tier 2 US server. Yet I will say that the average player on GH is significantly better than the average player on SoR.

I have to imagine it’s because you guys are a lower pop server with a numbers disadvantage that you’ve had to develope skill in order to survive, but you’re not going to find that same skill level on the more populated US servers. We can’t get people on Teamspeak or Mumble, we can’t get them to carry supply, we can’t get them to build siege, they just want to hack on walls with swords.

I really think a week from now you’re going to want to transfer back. I know we are considering staying here.

I’m glad you found enjoyment on the server.
A lot of G.H. fighting spirit were founded in other games; DAoC , Warhammer and what not. Also when we had day matches, we won most of what we came up against – Blacktide for example was defeated.

G.H.’s curse was that we were too many of too similar demographic. Older, settled, working, family and that meant “no” night coverage, “no” early day coverage.
And that was what caused the first exodus because – naturally – those who wanted to play Tier 1 would move to get 24/7 and getting zerged a lot of the hours of days made the primetime stint a lot harder.
And that caused other people to leave and presto – we have our population issues.
It has meant that those of us who remain in WvW needs to fight harder and harder – but it will be taking its toll, so chances are – ufortunately – that unless reinforcements arrive – more WvW people will move on as well.

It’s the nature of this game, even if that sucks for the ones left behind. But G.H.ians will try to tug along and lets see what happens in the next weeks matchup and the week after.
Those two weeks I suspect will be defining the future of G.H.

The “core” was ripped out when those 6 main WvW guilds left GH Slips, as we said then it’s only a matter of weeks before the few remaining guilds find their own servers and KISS moves on to somewhere where they can be carried again.

Though they were quite vocal about hunting us down and destroying us, I expected them to transfer to Desolation. Even Snort said a prayer to his dark irish gods every night before bed for such a miracle.

A different continent is quite funny though. Wannabe Ruin Mk2?

The dark Irish gods have scorned me for the last time, the kittens.

Syndic.4762:

The “core” was ripped out when those 6 main WvW guilds left GH Slips, as we said then it’s only a matter of weeks before the few remaining guilds find their own servers and KISS moves on to somewhere where they can be carried again.
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Of course 6 guilds leaving is going to cause issues, and of course that population loss will draw more with them. It’s the vicious cycle of the transfer system.
Saying it was the core is perhaps a bit much, when as much it was simply man power.

We beat Blacktide when we faced them first time. We lost when they could morning cap everything with their zerg and then you moved.
There’s no fault in going for the easier route and wanting 24/7 coverage because PvDoor is an important aspect of WvW, but let’s not make it out to be more than it was.

It’s numbers we lack on G.H. – that’s about all, not the ‘core’.

I think GH is more than likely going to drop a tier or two in the rankings but we’ve got a good community, and these last two match-ups have really shown who much our organization and coordination at the guild to guild level has improved.

While KISS may be gone, during the last match up we had a lot of less frequent WvW guilds start to branch into WvW.

If we keep working on building guilds, and organizing our existing community I think we will make a climb up the ladder again. As we did after unnamed left for BT. About a month ago.

There is still a lot of room for us to grow and improve if we put the time and effort into the community.

The best thing to do right now is to try to remember to join the mumble server, encourage more people to come do WvW, and let others know about the GH community sites, mumble, and WvW.

Right now is a great time to get people organized and to test stuff out, work on group comps, share information. To improve the core of our game play to make us a small but effective force.

((Hi Slips! Great fights on Sunday BTW!))

Karast, Melee Engineer of Cantankerous (CNTK)

Gunnar’s Hold

Eh, same thing happened to a bunch of servers – it’s not the end of the world. Take ET for example, our population plummeted with the massive guilds all left to join EU servers to be their night crew – we have been falling in ranks every since but those of us that are left still fight tooth and nail claiming what we can and making our presence known.

Just realize you won’t win any WvW for a while and have realistic goals as a server (to control set areas on a map), focus on those, build your community, get your PvE croud to try out WvW to simply add numbers to a zerg and have fun! Don’t play to “win” because you wont (you won’t have the population), play to control what you need to represent your server among the other servers.

Over at ET we focus on our server’s battleground and capture/hold that. Otherwise we would have 20 people on each map accomplishing nothing.

Syndic.4762:

The “core” was ripped out when those 6 main WvW guilds left GH Slips, as we said then it’s only a matter of weeks before the few remaining guilds find their own servers and KISS moves on to somewhere where they can be carried again.

Though they were quite vocal about hunting us down and destroying us, I expected them to transfer to Desolation. Even Snort said a prayer to his dark irish gods every night before bed for such a miracle.

A different continent is quite funny though. Wannabe Ruin Mk2?

You been on the wacky backy again? or are you just here for an ego boost? CiR & those that left where never the ‘core’ of GH.

I have many friends on Gunnars Hold. Leaving that community was one of the hardest things I have done. I know they will bounce back, the people on there are great and passion courses through their veins!!

GL Gunnars!!

Thank you Guys for supporting so greatfull this thread!

GUNNERS HOLD – We will not give up!

Sojourner.6938:

Posted this in the other thread, but if you guys and gals in KISS are interested, you can join our server forums here:

http://www.ehmry.com/

Welcome to EBay and let me be the first (here) to welcome you to our community!

Sorry. I do not want to attack anyone personally, but …
I wrote this thread to motivate the Players that still are on Gunnar’s Hold, and definitely not for motivating to switch Server.

Anesco.8310:

Sorry. I do not want to attack anyone personally, but …
I wrote this thread to motivate the Players that still are on Gunnar’s Hold, and definitely not for motivating to switch Server.

Well good. Then don’t. No one is attacking you.

A friendly invitation to join our forums is hardly a motivation to switch servers.

Sojourner.6938:

Anesco.8310:

Sorry. I do not want to attack anyone personally, but …
I wrote this thread to motivate the Players that still are on Gunnar’s Hold, and definitely not for motivating to switch Server.

Well good. Then don’t. No one is attacking you.

A friendly invitation to join our forums is hardly a motivation to switch servers.

Then Thanks for the invite and good luck!

PS: At the moment everything is a threat to Gunners Hold!

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Peetee.9406:

Having spent the entire week playing on Gunnar’s Hold with a few friends, I noticed something that really astonished me.

Gunnar’s Hold is a Tier 6 European server, we came from Sanctum of Rall a Tier 2 US server. Yet I will say that the average player on GH is significantly better than the average player on SoR.

I have to imagine it’s because you guys are a lower pop server with a numbers disadvantage that you’ve had to develope skill in order to survive, but you’re not going to find that same skill level on the more populated US servers. We can’t get people on Teamspeak or Mumble, we can’t get them to carry supply, we can’t get them to build siege, they just want to hack on walls with swords.

I really think a week from now you’re going to want to transfer back. I know we are considering staying here.

You just made a sweeping generalization about a lot of really good folk from the SoR server.

Mushy.3964:

CiR & those that left where never the ‘core’ of GH.

You couldn’t be more correct.

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/

Snort.3698:

Mushy.3964:

CiR & those that left where never the ‘core’ of GH.

You couldn’t be more correct.

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/

GH was going down hill before those guilds left due to us not having the 24/7 coverage, those Guilds that left, left so they could be on a winning server with 24/7 coverage. As you already know Snort.

Its also commonly referred to as easymoding. But then again, after experiencing how CiR response to the competition arriving at KN (eg. not being on a winning server anymore) long time ago, that didnt really surprise those knowing that part of history.

Edit; If this is considered trolling, I appoligize. But I believe understanding the mentality of people also helps understanding their actions. Nothing bad about what you do, really. Its only pixels after all :-) But, I believe it might be more fruitful to just stop posting more into the matter.

Thanks guys for your answers/replies! And thanks also for pushing this Threat!

GUNNERS HOLD – We will not give up!

Mushy.3964:

Snort.3698:

Mushy.3964:

CiR & those that left where never the ‘core’ of GH.

You couldn’t be more correct.

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/

GH was going down hill before those guilds left due to us not having the 24/7 coverage, those Guilds that left, left so they could be on a winning server with 24/7 coverage. As you already know Snort.

I am curious on the day they left where was GH. Where are they now?

Where was Blacktide, where are they now.

24 hour coverage was one issue.

Another issue just left GH.

There were more than two issues but these were the most ‘visible’.

Its a pity as there are nice people left on GH who I enjoyed sharing a server with.

I think people should really stop trying to aggravate eachother, its pointless and doesnt matter.
People left GH, was a nice place, doesnt matter why, People are free to do what they like in this game, They wanted to go, so they went. If you can have more fun elsewhere then thats where your gonna go, its your game time.
Passing judgment on other peoples actions and flying accusations around is pointless.

People will do what they want to do, especially in a game. Live with it.

All the best to KISS.

Anesco.8310:

Thanks guys for your answers/replies! And thanks also for pushing this Threat!

GUNNERS HOLD – We will not give up!

of course we won`t ^^

In fact we should work together and cooperate with other Guild,s. Its our World our Server

Mushy.3964:

Syndic.4762:

The “core” was ripped out when those 6 main WvW guilds left GH Slips, as we said then it’s only a matter of weeks before the few remaining guilds find their own servers and KISS moves on to somewhere where they can be carried again.

Though they were quite vocal about hunting us down and destroying us, I expected them to transfer to Desolation. Even Snort said a prayer to his dark irish gods every night before bed for such a miracle.

A different continent is quite funny though. Wannabe Ruin Mk2?

You been on the wacky backy again? or are you just here for an ego boost? CiR & those that left where never the ‘core’ of GH.

Running the risk of sounding like an elitist jerk, but we kinda were the ‘core’. Whatever that means to you or anyone else probably differs, but meh.

I still have friends on Gunnar’s Hold. They say the server’s been doing just fine in WvW, though of course it dropped a couple of tiers following the transfers of a large part of the INT alliance.

I don’t know how active KISS was in WvW, so I can’t say what the impact would be. I remember when we still played on GH we rarely saw them. Occasionally the odd random KISS guy running with a PUG, but never in guild formation.

Whatever, though. I wish Gunnar’s Hold the best. Though I pity whatever server is going to be swarmed by KISS, unless the KISS leaders learned that an alliance runs on democracy, and sometimes you have to take on for the team/server. Saying outright that you’re not going to be anyone’s kitty, and that you don’t appreciate people expecting you to stick to a plan. Well… they have a lot to learn. Let’s leave it at that.

I also imagine a lot of KISS PvE players are going to be disappointed when they find out there are barely any Americans online to join their dungeon runs during Euro prime time.

How comes it’s always drama when GH is involved in a thread?

Less moaning, more Wv3.

As for all the leavers, for whatever reason they left, have fun wherever you decided to land!

Snort.3698:

I am curious on the day they left where was GH. Where are they now?

Where was Blacktide, where are they now.

24 hour coverage was one issue.

Another issue just left GH.

There were more than two issues but these were the most ‘visible’.

Its a pity as there are nice people left on GH who I enjoyed sharing a server with.

Lets stop the argument here, I realise you are happy about having raised Blacktides to new heights, all of us on Gunnars Hold are truelly happy for you.

Despite being one of the core guilds on Blacktide you still want Gunnars to say you were one of ours to? We already admitted we miss your numbers. But truth be told, KISS could by itself hold more then one borderland and still have people to spare to assist us in other locations, their leaving has rather more of an impact as apart from numbers they were also able to communicate and negotiate.

Right now your posting makes you come across as a glory seeker, wanting acclamation even from a server you left weeks ago. This thread is about KISS leaving. Ive kept in touch with my friends on your server and its good to hear that you got a lot of action and appreciation there.

Gunnars will go on with the people we have, I understand that Tier 1 server Blacktide doesnt have a lot of respect for a lowly Tier 6 but while we do have a small community we also have a friendly and dedicated one. You may look down on us for sticking to our server when it started losing but we made our decision, you made yours. For both, the decision worked out.

More will undoubtedly leave in the weeks to come, as other will come to take their place, server transfers are a part of GW2 as you have pointed out. thank you for offering those that want to a home in your guild and server I wish you well in Blacktide and hope that the scores will even out a bit to make it more interesting. But your current match up and server already have their own thread so lets not discuss that in this thread.

No queues on GH

Nidhogg.2950:

Despite being one of the core guilds on Blacktide you still want Gunnars to say you were one of ours to? We already admitted we miss your numbers. But truth be told, KISS could by itself hold more then one borderland and still have people to spare to assist us in other locations, their leaving has rather more of an impact as apart from numbers they were also able to communicate and negotiate.

You misunderstand.

I am interested in the facts, and a few people decided to misrepresent my guild. I am just correcting the record in regard to those who talked the talk and walked away. Had they said nothing I would have said nothing.

The facts don’t back up your contention. There is little evidence of holding zones in the last few weeks. this site has comprehensive data, http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#history

I had a reread of this too

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/67743-gunnars-hold-working-together/

A number of posters made themselves hostages to fortune

I am sure there were those who guaranteed that Kiss would never leave, such foolish claims were made in the past about other guilds and often such blanket statments prove silly.

Snort.3698:

Nidhogg.2950:

Despite being one of the core guilds on Blacktide you still want Gunnars to say you were one of ours to? We already admitted we miss your numbers. But truth be told, KISS could by itself hold more then one borderland and still have people to spare to assist us in other locations, their leaving has rather more of an impact as apart from numbers they were also able to communicate and negotiate.

You misunderstand.

I am interested in the facts, and a few people decided to mispresented my guild. I am just correcting the record in regard to those who talked the talk and walked away. had they said nothing I would have said nothing.

The facts don’t back up your contention. There is little evidence of holding zones in the last few weeks. this site has comprehensive data, http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#history

I had a reread of this too

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/67743-gunnars-hold-working-together/

A number of posters made themselves hostages to fortune

I am curious did you guarantee that KISS wouldnt leave the server, as well?

Im sorry, this might be a language thing, who besides yourself is here from your guild representing Thun?

we on Gunnars hold know we have been losing zones, we also know Blacktide is doing a lot better. I thank you for the link but I had already seen it in your earlier posts and quite a few people on Gunnars have been watching it as well.

I do not understand your reference to an older post, and why would I guarantee that KISS wouldnt leave? Im not even in KISS, let alone in a position to make such guarantees. Who would guarantee that a guild wouldnt leave?

Guess it doesnt matter, its all offtopic anyway.

Ontopic: Gunnars Hold will continue, fights will be harder and we expect to go down a few tiers and some of us have decided to start training exercises with the people who are remaining. Roo for example start before the crack of dawn with choir practise, which is a reference to a movie I dont know apparantly.

During our voice-comm meeting with Piken Square we were told that some of their warbands practised maneaveurs first in PvE, then WvW and seeing how that worked out we intend to do that same.

Gunnars Hold might be downed, but not defeated!

Its a language thing.

Misrepresent refers to others, non guildies in this context.

Snort.3698:

Its a language thing.

Misrepresent refers to other, non guildies in this context.

Ah allright, thanks. You have represented Blacktide, Unnamed and yourself here now very well so that should clear up misunderstandings.

Im sorry if you felt your guild was disrespected in this thread. Hope this puts it to rest and that the discussion stays on topic now.

Hello all.This is my first post at this forums and i represent myself and only myself.
First of all i want to salute some players like Snort and others as i known them from warhammer back at Karak Hirn days where we fought order together.
I know Snort is a good guy and he has good intentions:)

I joined GH back at the drama week when we were facing Blacktide and Aurora Glade if i remember correctly. I understand that some people wants desperately to win and that moving servers is their right to do as long as Anet allows it.
Personally i would never do that as i don’t care how much we are winning or loosing as long as there is a few people willing to fight for the server we choose.

What i don’t get is people coming back at posts about servers they have allready left and seeking glory they think GH owes them.
I also don’t get why people think that moving to a server that is allready winning automatically makes them superior and better players.
I still remember a post saying “Npcs fights better than Gunnars Hold players”.

Please leave us in peace, you moved on , nice to fought together with you but please don’t come at GH posts fighting about who has a bigger impact on the server you have already abandon. Don’t you have a fight for T1 atm?
To the GH players. From what i have noticed during the 1 month that i am here, is that we certainly don’t lack players quality, we lack commanders and player numbers in generall but i think those are things that can be worked.

Thanks to all the people that are posting positive comments and a big hello to my previous commrades and foes.Sry about the bad english as it isn’t my first language.

As Snort explained, it’s not about us being awesome and we want GH to admit it (:p), its that people consistently keep saying kitten about the guilds who left a mere 3 weeks ago, even when it’s uncalled for and not really relevant anymore.
When that happens, we’re not going to idly stand by and go “Okay, well, they insult us, but it’s fine, we’ve switched servers and are happy where we are”
An insult is still an insult and should be adressed.

Speaking of, we didn’t leave because we desperately wanted to win, but because Blacktide was a server which fit us better with a similar mindset and actual willingness to work together. While GH wasn’t a bad server, it simply didn’t work out for us.
You know, a bit like the current situation?

Genotix.6804:

What i don’t get is people coming back at posts about servers they have allready left and seeking glory they think GH owes them.
[…]
Please leave us in peace, you moved on , nice to fought together with you but please don’t come at GH posts fighting about who has a bigger impact on the server you have already abandon. Don’t you have a fight for T1 atm?

No, the server for which KISS abandoned GH is in T5, not T1.

Genev i didn’t insult you:).

I just said that as long as Anet allows it i am ok with people transfering. It is badly designed if you ask me.
I didn’t come here to fight or insult anyone, i just asked to leave us in peace and stop posting links about where GH were and where it is now. Does it matter to you that much?

And btw “Npcs fights better than people at GH”. Now that was an insult. I didn’t see anyone insulted you here mate.

Good Luck at your current matchup.

Genotix.6804:

Genev i didn’t insult you:).

I just said that as long as Anet allows it i am ok with people transfering. It is badly designed if you ask me.
I didn’t come here to fight or insult anyone, i just asked to leave us in peace and stop posting links about where GH were and where it is now. Does it matter to you that much?

And btw “Npcs fights better than people at GH”. Now that was an insult. I didn’t see anyone insulted you here mate.

Good Luck at your current matchup.

Genotix from Fractal ?
If so, oh my god, long time old friend.

Well said Genev.
Now Good luck to Gunnar’s Hold as it is a fine server with friendly people on it!
Still have some buddys there.. So I know how big the impact was when the guilds left last time.

Yes Cyril i am that Genotix:)
Long time no see mate!
Now come back and heal me:)

LOL KISS! They probably left because as in GW 1, no one liked them… yet it was different reasons.

Svarty.8019:

The problem
The key problem is transfers. They shouldn’t exist at all. We’ve had a lot of guilds jumping from server to server and the automated ranking system can’t keep up, even when it’s a one week gap between jumps.

The solution
We need transfers to be locked down for long periods (3 months, maybe more, imho).

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I understand your passion but..

LOL you do realize there are other players that want to transfer that never wpvp?

3 months? lol