Guild Wars 2

Hi, I’m a commander of Ring of Fire server (EU)

My guild master spent many golds, supplies and time to full upgrade our borderland garrison (reinforced gate reinforced walls etc).

After some hours Underworld server capped this our garrison in 1 minute, more or less.
We checkd all doors to find their sige weapons, but we found nothing. Also mesmer teleport solution is out of discussion, because we spent a lot of time cheking for hidden players…

ideas?

A dev loaded in and trolled you hard

3-5 siege golems can slice through your garrison like a hot knife through butter.

I’m a Commander on Underworld Server, but mostly spend time on Eternal – as far as I know no Devs are on Underworld, the most likely case is we trebled you to death, or just had a large Zerg and battered the doors whilst you were off somewhere else – that said We tried to take your Garrison at one point and got in pretty quickly, only to find the Lord had buff – and not even Indignation, he had Determined and it didn’t even reset…. Annoying as hell.

Another solution to your problem would be Alphas, they wud take it down and be gone rather than stay there for everyone to see…

I would also like to say that you guys have an unhealthy obsession with Arrow Carts, and always seem to place them in invisible places…

Immolator.5640:

I’m a Commander on Underworld Server, but mostly spend time on Eternal – as far as I know no Devs are on Underworld, the most likely case is we trebled you to death, or just had a large Zerg and battered the doors whilst you were off somewhere else – that said We tried to take your Garrison at one point and got in pretty quickly, only to find the Lord had buff – and not even Indignation, he had Determined and it didn’t even reset…. Annoying as hell.

Another solution to your problem would be Alphas, they wud take it down and be gone rather than stay there for everyone to see…

I would also like to say that you guys have an unhealthy obsession with Arrow Carts, and always seem to place them in invisible places…

thanks for reply. may I ask you to investigate this? your server got our garrison (inside ring of fire borderlands) at 23.45, something like that.

Sige golem? maybe, but still quite hard, because we had reinforced walls. we are speaking about 1 minute (even less) to cap the garrison. in 1 minute you dont even move the sige golem from first gate to the second.

5 alpha golems + some people can slide through reinforced doors in like 1-2 minutes.
Normal doors take them 30 seconds or so.

Just need some tactic to not be seen while coming near keep/tower, and it’s pretty much yours.

they just take ascension bay in 1 minute too…this is ridicolous

You cant beat 2 gates and a keep lord in 1 minute without cheating, nomatter what and how many you are.

Shintai.5618:

You cant beat 2 gates and a keep lord in 1 minute without cheating, nomatter what and how many you are.

You underestimate few tricks and golems dear Sir.
I experienced today taking 1 of towers in borderlands on server Gunnar’s Hold in less than 30 seconds. 1-2 minutes for keep? doable but require resources and people.. and they don’t always want to listen so well.

There’s also possibility that 1 of your gates (maybe the 1 underground) was damaged earlier and you did not repair it. I’m not sure though, but saying that they cheated is pretty silly without proof.

we are speaking about a garrison full updated with heavy doors (2 doors also, not just 1 like a normal keep) and imba keeplord…

ah, people that saw with theyr eyes they told: they teleported from nowere.

Lohengrin.8573:

thanks for reply. may I ask you to investigate this? your server got our garrison (inside ring of fire borderlands) at 23.45, something like that.

Some Notes:

I was in Ring of Fire Borderlands yesterday pretty late time, and we (Underworld) capped pretty upgraded garrison pretty fast with 4 siege golems. 1 minute is very quick for a keep with reinforced doors, but in 5-6 minutes it’s possible. I have no idea what happened today as I was at Whiteside Ridge Borderlands. My guess is 3 treb firing from tower at NE and 3-4 golems hacking the inner door, which is something we do regularly. However 1 minute is too short time even for that. The only valid solution for 1 minute is Mesmer Teleport, though you say it’s not possible.

The bugged Garrison is not Ring Of Fire’s but Whiteside Ridge’s Garrison. Keep Lord immunity is stuck so there is no way to capture it. And i guess it will stay like that till the end of the match.

About Bay Keep, defenders generally forget to repair NW gates (both inner and outer). Due to that again yesterday we captured that keep within 5 minutes, while RoF defenders fighting with WR invaders at their tower. However as Siege Golems can not swim there is always some siege machines left behind when attacking Ascension Bay.

EDIT: I hate hacks and I hope our server and/or any guild in it didn’t participated that action. You have my full promise that I’ll report anyone I will see doing something like that. I’ll make an announcement for my guild also to urge them to do the same.

If tricks means cheat? Then yes.

^ Kazim – Siege golems can’t swim, but mesmer using portals can

A well planned attack that isn’t noticed that includes a large amount of siege golems can capture keeps in minutes.

That’s a video i took earlier today when Caedas guild blitzed Henge of Denravi’s fully upgraded keep. We used no siege equipment apart from the golems and a ram on the front gate that didn’t even manage to get used.

Massacrul.2016:

Shintai.5618:

You cant beat 2 gates and a keep lord in 1 minute without cheating, nomatter what and how many you are.

You underestimate few tricks and golems dear Sir.
I experienced today taking 1 of towers in borderlands on server Gunnar’s Hold in less than 30 seconds. 1-2 minutes for keep? doable but require resources and people.. and they don’t always want to listen so well.

There’s also possibility that 1 of your gates (maybe the 1 underground) was damaged earlier and you did not repair it. I’m not sure though, but saying that they cheated is pretty silly without proof.

That was fun I think we got through to the keep lord in Hills in about 1 min as well, so perfectly doable.

Kazim.2043:

Massacrul.2016:

^ Kazim – Siege golems can’t swim, but mesmer using portals can

so true lol

Your both wrong :/
Siege Golems can swim, and the mesmer portal no longer works on siege golems.

Ascii.9726:

Kazim.2043:

Massacrul.2016:

^ Kazim – Siege golems can’t swim, but mesmer using portals can

so true lol

Your both wrong :/
Siege Golems can swim, and the mesmer portal no longer works on siege golems.

Funny, even if i was participating today in capturing keep in 1 of borderlands using siege golems and mesmer that teleported every1 and EVEN siege golems through the lake

You insist that what i saw was a dream or what?

Anyway back on topic – I wouldn’t be calling that Underworld cheated/hacked to take keep. And without any serious proof, you shouldn’t be saying this cause you just look silly. And “1 guys saw and told me” is not serious proof.

Kazim.2043:

The bugged Garrison is not Ring Of Fire’s but Whiteside Ridge’s Garrison. Keep Lord immunity is stuck so there is no way to capture it. And i guess it will stay like that till the end of the match.

I had no idea the Whiteside garrison was bugged. That’s a shame really as Whiteside, as a medium population server is against two full servers and we have outmanned regularly. I thought we were pulling off a heroic stand against the two larger servers.

Edit: Speaking of the Garrison, which manchild is responsible for this? Theres more on the other side of the gate. Incredibly petty.

Massacrul.2016:

Ascii.9726:

Kazim.2043:

Massacrul.2016:

^ Kazim – Siege golems can’t swim, but mesmer using portals can

so true lol

Your both wrong :/
Siege Golems can swim, and the mesmer portal no longer works on siege golems.

Funny, even if i was participating today in capturing keep in 1 of borderlands using siege golems and mesmer that teleported every1 and EVEN siege golems through the lake

You insist that what i saw was a dream or what?

Anyway back on topic – I wouldn’t be calling that Underworld cheated/hacked to take keep. And without any serious proof, you shouldn’t be saying this cause you just look silly. And “1 guys saw and told me” is not serious proof.

Check the video i posted. Mesmer drops a portal @ 0:18 seconds at bottom to top of stairs to port golems up. Not 1 ports up, i even press F and I’m not ported.

Ascii.9726:

Massacrul.2016:

Ascii.9726:

Kazim.2043:

Massacrul.2016:

^ Kazim – Siege golems can’t swim, but mesmer using portals can

so true lol

Your both wrong :/
Siege Golems can swim, and the mesmer portal no longer works on siege golems.

Funny, even if i was participating today in capturing keep in 1 of borderlands using siege golems and mesmer that teleported every1 and EVEN siege golems through the lake

You insist that what i saw was a dream or what?

Anyway back on topic – I wouldn’t be calling that Underworld cheated/hacked to take keep. And without any serious proof, you shouldn’t be saying this cause you just look silly. And “1 guys saw and told me” is not serious proof.

Check the video i posted. Mesmer drops a portal @ 0:18 seconds at bottom to top of stairs to port golems up. Not 1 ports up, i even press F and I’m not ported.

I already told you. I PARTICIPATED today in such an action, and siege golems were succesfully teleported using mesmer portals FEW TIMES.

We ported some golems using Mesmer Portals about 5 hours ago. I confirm it works

Grevane.6570:

I had no idea the Whiteside garrison was bugged. That’s a shame really as Whiteside, as a medium population server is against two full servers and we have outmanned regularly. I thought we were pulling off a heroic stand against the two larger servers.

Let me say you’re fighting heroic but you lack the numbers. On Whiteside Ridge Borderlands we can’t progress further because we can’t capture the Garrison, and there is always 2-3 trebs at garrison hitting our Bay Keep continuously that we can’t do much against them

On the other side we have Ring of Fire which is more close to our power. So they keep their stance and rarely progress towards you perhaps not to take your attention from us But I guess by this time our night crew started to cap all maps slowly

Even while being on winning side, I don’t like the “night capping” thing which breaks the fun/competition. What you all guys invested on upgrades or siege engines will be gone by tomorrow morning

We really appreciate ur udnerstanding Kazim, much appreciate

we still can’t udnerstand how you get our full upgraded garrison in less than 1 minute. maybe 10 teleported golems…

Same way we just took garrison from you with a party of 4; your’re not very good

I was there on underworld side for both Garrison caps tonight. There was 0 foul play, we simply took down outer/inner doors and then took the lord.

The second time you were tunnelling so hard into our defences at bay that we took garrison with 4 people (In a similar manner to how you tunnel vision’d into garrison defences so hard earlier we nearly took every single thing on the map).

+1 on the previous 2 posts as i was there myself. Quite frankly if some of your characters start dying of stuff not implemented yet in the game such as malaria, it would not be at all surprising. You always find new ways to roll over for :cute smiley face:

Cheers.

Raijan.6917:

I was there on underworld side for both Garrison caps tonight. There was 0 foul play, we simply took down outer/inner doors and then took the lord.

The second time you were tunnelling so hard into our defences at bay that we took garrison with 4 people (In a similar manner to how you tunnel vision’d into garrison defences so hard earlier we nearly took every single thing on the map).

how did you cap in 4 people a full upgraded garrison in 1 minute?

Just because you claim it took one minute does not make it true.
It took the 4 of us ~13 minutes in total.

We even had only a couple of people attacking the outer door with a ram for a time while the others went in turns and got the supplies for the second ram.

People exploiting World vs. World? No. Not in GW2. It’s not possible.

Fixed* for the GM that deleted my post because I typed in too many caps… really?

I’m starting to get a SWTOR forums vibe and I’ve only been on these forums for about 30 minutes.

Raijan.6917:

Just because you claim it took one minute does not make it true.
It took the 4 of us ~13 minutes in total.

We even had only a couple of people attacking the outer door with a ram for a time while the others went in turns and got the supplies for the second ram.

fake.

in queued ring of fire borderlands (full of players), with the garrison claimed and fully upgraded by my guild and our scouts everywhere, do you think we wouldn’t notice a13 minutes sige? you are trying to say that with 2 rams and 4 players you can take care, in 13 minutes, of 2 heavy doors, all the guards and the imba lord? you are trolling hard sir.

anyway we reported this to ncsoft directly

ha, you think the lord is actually any good. You realise its entirely possible to just stand there and tank it as a guardian?

smart guy, you need dps and time to kill lords and guards. lords has invulnerability buff too…smart boy

Fine, obviously we found this quite funny as it was happening so I took the odd screenshot.

Here’s the inner door dropping in the perfectly normal manner. Just like I said, tonight at just after 1am. We started at around 12:50.

I’ve edited the names because frankly right now. By threatening to report us for playing the game in a normal manner you are clearly griefing and I’m not going to risk any more threatening behaviour from you at my friends and guild mates.

Davemos.2159:

ha, you think the lord is actually any good. You realise its entirely possible to just stand there and tank it as a guardian?

The elitist are speaking, all bow down to him. His words are gold, devs will listen to him more than anyone else, because he is the majority and cares about the game being fun for all !

I hope you are realizing what you are really doing with those words you spew on these forums. Devs may not see it, but your kind, will be their downfall if they listen to you. MMO history has proven this.

Raijan.6917, how did you get the outside gate?

@Raijan.6917 ,
Can you tell me please, how do you know where Lohegrin was, acording to your screeshoot and why you have the pictures whiten up on the garsison location?

With a ram. Witty character filler

he suppose i was there, trolling.

ah, i have an entire server that can confirm what im saiyng.

why there were no ram outside?

aleksandar.5642:

@Raijan.6917 ,
Can you tell me please, how do you know where Lohegrin was, acording to your screeshoot and why you have the pictures whiten up on the garsison location?

1. Because he’s there commander (according to the OP), and seeing as all of there forces were derping into bay at the time, it’s a fairly logical conclusion he was there too.

2. Because they’re too incompetent to work out which gate we’re using and I’m not here to make their lives easy by giving away tactical information. Anyone on a decent server will take one look at that screenshot and rofl at them for letting us do this TWICE in one night.

Edit, there was a ram outside too.

1. I wasnt at bay, since i was taking care of your zerg in east supply depot. but wathever, that dosent mean anything.

2. there were no ram outside.

3. at bay another commander saw many of underworld warping from nowhere inside

4. you really think NOBODY would notice 4 people taking our garrison in 13 minutes?

One person did. He tried to repair the door @ ~10%.
One person was not enough to stop out mighty 4 man army,

4: Apparently not

You’re either trying to get the information out of us (in a not so subtle way I might add) or are genuinely this bad at siege warfare.

Either way I suggest you wait for your GM reply, which probably wont happen as everything was above-board

Lohengrin.8573:

1. I wasnt at bay, since i was taking care of your zerg in east supply depot. but wathever, that dosent mean anything.

2. there were no ram outside.

3. at bay another commander saw many of underworld warping from nowhere inside

4. you really think NOBODY would notice 4 people taking our garrison in 13 minutes?

You looked at the wrong gate, that is all I will say on the matter.

haha sure. no worries, anet will take care of this.

it’s just patetic how you pretend that we belive this crap.

underworld is zerg-mode only and you are triyng to say that in 4 people you toke a full upgraded garrison…mmmkay

Lohengrin.8573:

haha sure. no worries, anet will take care of this.

it’s just patetic how you pretend that we belive this crap.

underworld is zerg-mode only and you are triyng to say that in 3 people you toke a full upgraded garrison…mmmkay

You seem to have both numeracy and hyperbole issues.

We said 4. We said it several times.

Davemos.2159:

4: Apparently not

You’re either trying to get the information out of us (in a not so subtle way I might add) or are genuinely this bad at siege warfare.

Either way I suggest you wait for your GM reply, which probably wont happen as everything was above-board

What tactical information? lol this is lame

and saying this it just make you look bad, taking empty keeps in the night and braging about your mighty force and superior strategy in the forums.

We’re not here to brag. We did not start this thread.
We’re here to supply facts, in the face of outright lies. Lies directed at us.

Im an Alliance leader for one of the biggest underworlds alliances, I know for a fact that as a alliance we have over 50 golem blueprints as we all run jumping puzzles daily.

Its very easy for us to deploy golems as an alliance and destroy a door very quickly.

Most likely this thread was made because of how badly ring of fire are losing(last time i looked they had 0 points per tick) , its easier to blame the winners claiming foul play than to admit maybe your server just isn’t very organised.

you have not supply any facts at all

and phoenix OP didn’t complain about how you guys are very orginased at night, it’s about 4 guys taking keep very fast, not 100 vs a door or 4 golems vs door