Guild Wars 2

I have no idea if these players are hackers or are taking advantage of in game bugs, but I have definitely noticed some strange things in PvP and Wvw game play.
For example some one killing 2 players, with full health and in reaper status, within 2 hits…not kidding, 3 times we tried to kill this guy…we didnt damage him at all…and we couldnt even report him…u know when u right click someones name you can block or report… NOPE lol.
Anyone else have strange happinings?
P.S.he was in PUGS ;/

yep I’m fed up of wvw was just start starting to really enjoy it now they have made it 2 servers to make it busy I hate it

but also the 2 hit killing is really winding me up I had a necro few months back took about 15 of us to kill as the were taking 99% helth on 1st touch then done whole lenth of map in seconds

my wvw char is a mesma with toughness vitality always getting 1 hit killed so frushtrating so many complaining in chat also today I got 2 kit killed buy a ranger in a warrior with knight armor on. I run a full accended berserker ranger and I cant kill no 1 in 2 hits not even when letting off all skills with successful hits drops people so how does 1 ranger drop a knight warrior on 2nd arrow

Xen.2604:

my wvw char is a mesma with toughness vitality always getting 1 hit killed so frushtrating so many complaining in chat also today I got 2 kit killed buy a ranger in a warrior with knight armor on. I run a full accended berserker ranger and I cant kill no 1 in 2 hits not even when letting off all skills with successful hits drops people so how does 1 ranger drop a knight warrior on 2nd arrow

By running a gimmick build.
Run full zerk, scholar runes, steady focus, and remorseless. Pop SoW, SotH, GoE, and hope they don’t have passive defenses to save their kitten because you’re glassy as kitten and just blew all of your utilities.

Xen.2604:

yep I’m fed up of wvw was just start starting to really enjoy it now they have made it 2 servers to make it busy I hate it

but also the 2 hit killing is really winding me up I had a necro few months back took about 15 of us to kill as the were taking 99% helth on 1st touch then done whole lenth of map in seconds

my wvw char is a mesma with toughness vitality always getting 1 hit killed so frushtrating so many complaining in chat also today I got 2 kit killed buy a ranger in a warrior with knight armor on. I run a full accended berserker ranger and I cant kill no 1 in 2 hits not even when letting off all skills with successful hits drops people so how does 1 ranger drop a knight warrior on 2nd arrow

Just part of the new classes upgrades. Everyone got massive damage increases and combat utilities. Ranger got Druid. Remember, you have a pet, you don’t need a damage boost.

was only using as reference I don’t use ranger in wvw. I did when it was all I had and I did briefly the other day for dailies

Correct me if I’m wrong, I know some classes have good condi cleanse, but some people are just IMMUNE to condi. Literally every cast you make is cleansed instantly on each tick. Now, I don’t know whether I’m doing something wrong, or if a third party tool is involved, but sometimes I think running condi is completely futile.

I ran into several such folks in WvW with my Mesmer and literally every hit (torment, confusion) was cleansed instantly on warrior classes mostly. These folks didn’t lose health at all with my condi values above 2.2k.

Can someone explain? Or there is nothing to explain and they are probably using something.

Note: what I’m talking about is landing a condition and watching it immediately go away. With every hit.

It’s hard to tell because some classes, if you build for it, can be completely immune to conditions.

It is always possible someone figured out how to hack the system…but I’d start with the assumption that they built themselves to counter conditions. Was this 1v1?

saerni.2584:

It’s hard to tell because some classes, if you build for it, can be completely immune to conditions.

It is always possible someone figured out how to hack the system…but I’d start with the assumption that they built themselves to counter conditions. Was this 1v1?

most of the times yer, 1v1. But with every single hit in that very instance the condi is gone? Hard to believe. I know they have stances but this was instant removal, every single time, the condi didn’t even tick once properly. they were bulletproof.

Yeah that seems like strange behavior. Unless they were running extreme condi duration minus food/gear it seems unlikely that the condi would never tick at all….

I honestly can’t tell if you two are trolling or not.

In case you’re not here’s a little reading for you.
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Resistance

Jim Hunter.6821:

I honestly can’t tell if you two are trolling or not.

In case you’re not here’s a little reading for you.
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Resistance

Irrelevant post, because this is not about Resistance. Everyone knows about it. I’m talking about the opponents I faced did NOT have resistance on them. You can’t miss the green glow when all you do is stare at your opponent watching their every move in combat, so you should read before you troll. I even specifically mentioned I’m aware of Warrior Stances (one of which gives resistance for about 10s).

What saerni mentioned about extreme minus condi durations, from what I quickly researched via builds, runes with food can give you up to -45% condi duration, not more afaik. Guys I’m talking about – you hit them with scepter / staff, condi ticks, it’s gone, ticks again, gone, you hit them with everything you got, all removed instantly – no stances used and you too use runes / food to prolong condi duration, damage etc., so this is really sort of suspicious, when no matter what you do nothing works. Your build becomes obsolete the moment you realize the power you wield has no effect. Dropping at least 3 offensive condis on your opponent with more than 2.2k condi power should at least scratch them imo. (I am talking about some of the deadliest conditions – Torment, Confusion – heck, these two are overkill yet to a warrior they seem like a pillow fight). Well it does not. You deal 0 dmg so while some complain how strong condis are, either they became terribly easy to remove or there’s a new “method” out there.

You said you know they have stances but resistance is a boon. Yes one of the things that grants it is a stance, but there are other ways for them to get it, including their healing signet.

And when you say that ,“the condi didn’t even tick once properly”, and that you did 0 damage, it sure as hell sounds like they had resistance up.

To go along with resistance, warriors have excellent condi removal. With fast hands/brawlers recovery they can drop a condi every 5 seconds, and cleansing ire is gold vs any condi player with npc support (minions, pets, etc. ).

But I’m pretty kittening sure that they had resistance up. Try looking at the boons on their bar instead of watching for a green glow that probably just didn’t render.

Or just keep complaining that anyone that beat you is a hacker, your choice.

This could go on the whole day, just as fights with some of these ppl that last at least half an hour with all that condi “removal”.

I recall this case from 2 days ago in EOTM – fought a warrior again that hardly did weapon swap, mostly went GS, didn’t use signets at all and I watched his bar – among the hero banners and power foods there wasn’t resistance popping yet condis totally ineffective, so what would you make of that… his health constantly full. Am tired of this kitten.

While some believe only their own versions of things I believe everything can be bypassed.

Lately I learned to simply withdraw from these kinds of “fights” because it’s not interesting or fun to fight someone for half an hour, round after round the same – you drop condis, he cleanses, “fight” goes on…

The way to test is apply conditions at distance in a batch and see if the same occurs. Zerker stance/Cleansing Ire, weapon swap combos can remove a kitten load of conditions as can Signet of stamina.

if the person built for high adrenaline they can enter zerker mode quickly over and over again. This cleanses conditions. Added on top they can use IRE much more rapidly and cleanse those conditions. If you are close in and in melee range they can much more easily cleanse the same as not ony does IRe require that burst hit, but adrenaline for their zerker mode builds faster.

On my own warrior build I switch alternate those cleanses with high resistance uptime meaning the condition ticks rarely do any damage. The warrior can also have regen/adrenal/signet healing all running at the same time for some very high health regen that can make it look like your conditions do nothing. Against a class like a ranger/minion necro/mesmer it can be easier to ensure cleansing ire and adrenaline building works.

To a thief build I had. It used Shamans pain response, assassins reward Signet of malice and Guarded Initiation along with escapists. This build could stay at peak health against Condition builds for long periods of time due to fast cleansing and many sources of health. The build perfromed BETTER against rangers minion master and mesmers then against a condition warrior as example because there were more targets off which to proc evades (for regen heal condi cleanse) and garner the SOM heals.

babazhook.6805:

The way to test is apply conditions at distance in a batch and see if the same occurs. Zerker stance/Cleansing Ire, weapon swap combos can remove a kitten load of conditions as can Signet of stamina.

if the person built for high adrenaline they can enter zerker mode quickly over and over again. This cleanses conditions. Added on top they can use IRE much more rapidly and cleanse those conditions. If you are close in and in melee range they can much more easily cleanse the same as not ony does IRe require that burst hit, but adrenaline for their zerker mode builds faster.

On my own warrior build I switch alternate those cleanses with high resistance uptime meaning the condition ticks rarely do any damage. The warrior can also have regen/adrenal/signet healing all running at the same time for some very high health regen that can make it look like your conditions do nothing. Against a class like a ranger/minion necro/mesmer it can be easier to ensure cleansing ire and adrenaline building works.

To a thief build I had. It used Shamans pain response, assassins reward Signet of malice and Guarded Initiation along with escapists. This build could stay at peak health against Condition builds for long periods of time due to fast cleansing and many sources of health. The build perfromed BETTER against rangers minion master and mesmers then against a condition warrior as example because there were more targets off which to proc evades (for regen heal condi cleanse) and garner the SOM heals.

You’re clearly a hacker for not face tanking the condi’s and coming to the forums to complain about how op they are and how they need to be nerfed.

Jim Hunter.6821:

You’re clearly a hacker for not face tanking the condi’s and coming to the forums to complain about how op they are and how they need to be nerfed.

You’re just plain ignorant if you think there are no hackers in online games. Burying your head in the sand doesn’t change the fact that players of ill repute are gaining advantages by methods that are not in the spirit of the game.

Ever wonder why orbs were removed from WvW?

All Matters Fecal.9560:

Jim Hunter.6821:

You’re clearly a hacker for not face tanking the condi’s and coming to the forums to complain about how op they are and how they need to be nerfed.

You’re just plain ignorant if you think there are no hackers in online games. Burying your head in the sand doesn’t change the fact that players of ill repute are gaining advantages by methods that are not in the spirit of the game.

Ever wonder why orbs were removed from WvW?

I’m sorry could you point out where I said there are no hackers in this game? I see hackers on a fairly regular basis, flying around in the air, getting downed and making short leaps across the ground at ridiculous speeds, etc.

But even more often than that I see people that have zero clue about other classes complaining that they are hacking. I’ve seen players crying that a ranger using trapper runes was hacking because he kept disappearing, players that “hit to hard” are hacking, hell the last thread that popped up about people “hacking their way into a closed tower” came with a screen shot of the guys mesmer clones on the wall.

“The boy who cried wolf” scenario here about hackers has made ppl not believe it without proof, because almost every single time it was uninformed players or ego ect that made them say “hacker!!11”. So guys, you shouldn’t get salty at Puck and co. who are trying to figure if you encountered a hack or not by asking the obvious questions most players who cry hacker don’t think of or even know about. Usually it’s a L2p issue, but hey, you never know.

I always suggest having recording software going or a hot button to start recording. There’s even free ones that you hit a hot button and it saves the last 10 min or so of your gameplay. If someone is concerned about hackers, or a person you think is hacking, take the time to DL recording software, cause posting in here honestly doesn’t do a thing but make ppl think you’re a new or inexperienced player.

I’ve played this game since launch and I’ve yet to see any “hacking” besides the occasional speed hacking (which is rare nowadays). People usually wrongly assume someone is hacking when they get bodied in fights tbh.

As Puck and others mentioned, warriors have a huge amount of access to resistance and condition removal (Stamina signet/cleansing ire/healing signet/zerker stance/weapon swap). Coupled with -duration food warrior can appear immune to conditions if you don’t understand what is going on.

As far as the examples given by condition mesmers, I would suggest learning how to actually combo properly. Too many condition mesmers think that just randomly spamming shatters and clones is going to win fights against even average players and it simply won’t work, especially against warriors. Healing signet and AH is 800 hp/sec minimum with no healing power which can really negate the ticks of conditions.

just last week or so while pve, seeing quite a few teleporting from node to node to farm mats, reported a few if i am quick enough to target it before it teleport to another node, which you can see the player teleporting when there are close by nodes, so other hacks most likely available.