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Posted by: Nemhain.3906

Nemhain.3906

This morning I started my day as usual, logged into GW2 and decided that my dailies would be done at WvW.
For my suprisse while I was capturing a camp with another player from my server, this player appeared from nowhere (he didn’t run, he just appeared from nothing), before any troll starts to say there are professions that have stealth, I know that fact. What made me scratch my head and start thinking something was wrong, was when we killed that player and in like two second he reappeared at same location, full health and way far from nearest WP for his/it faction.
The name of him/it was generic “Underworld thief Wv W” and also appeared as “Underworld Footman Wv W”, and always using thief skills. As obvious I reported it as scam or bot, since I never crossed over with a situation like this.
I’ve red some posts in this forum about why WvW don’t atract more players, maybe one of the reasons it’s this, servers that use bots to scam and spoil the game of others.

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Posted by: Tom Gore.4035

Tom Gore.4035

Facepalm…

“Underworld thief Wv W”

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Thieves_Guild

You should probably check on other classes skills and mechanics before calling hackers.

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Posted by: X T D.6458

X T D.6458

I believe thieves guild summons show up as “server name beasts”? also it wouldnt say thief it would say “underworld rank” like invader etc… but aside from that if what you say is true it is indeed an exploit

I say what needs to be said, get used to it.
Honesty is not insulting, stupidity is.
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Posted by: Nemhain.3906

Nemhain.3906

Facepalm…

“Underworld thief Wv W”

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Thieves_Guild

You should probably check on other classes skills and mechanics before calling hackers.

Obviously you didn’t red well my post and I do know other professions (not classes) skills, and for your info here what http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Thief_ says about summoned thieves:
“Summoned thieves can be summoned by the Thief profession. Like most summoned allies they will follow their summoner and fight nearby hostiles until slain or their duration expires (the duration depends on the skill used to summon the thief).”
So after the thief is slain, summoned ones should not keep fighting since he’s dead, therefore he’s not supposed to keep fighting. If this happens something it’s really wrong.
One last thing, for much you disagree with someone, “facepalming” other people is truelly offensive, try read the post and understand ‘em, try give constructive replies and not acting like a know it all person.
I just wanted to expose this, I wasn’t alone in that fight and the other player also thought what was happening very odd.
With my best regards.

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Posted by: Tom Gore.4035

Tom Gore.4035

I read your mail many times, thank you. The impression I got from what happened was that a stealthed thief came to the camp and used the Thieves Guild, causing two “Underworld Thief [guildname]” to appear. You and your buddies killed those two, after which the real player appeared.

So are you sure you actually killed the player or just downed him? Are you sure there wasn’t more than 1 enemy player there? I can also assure you cannot kill a player in 2 seconds. Down him maybe, but not kill him. Especially a thief who can port away when downed.

Screenshots with combat logs would help a lot in these. They are even more crucial when you start calling people hackers with such little information.

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Posted by: Nemhain.3906

Nemhain.3906

Tom Gore, indeed you pointed some points I didn’t had in count. Maybe the real player was hidden, is possible. When I mentioned the 2 seconds time, was the time that took to spawn another one after we slain him, with a finish move. Regarding an extra player around? well if he was stealthed we couldn’t see him while he remain that way.
I apreciate the fact you pointed this facts, but regardless I started the post with “hackers”, in no part of my original post I called anyone hacker, just exposed a strage situation that happened to me and a fellow server player.
I hope I don’t cross with such situation in future but if I do I’ll take your advice and will try to get screenshots from combat log.
Thanks for your constructive reply Tom.
Have fun.

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Posted by: Ark Bladesteele.2943

Ark Bladesteele.2943

I believe thieves guild summons show up as “server name beasts”? also it wouldnt say thief it would say “underworld rank” like invader etc… but aside from that if what you say is true it is indeed an exploit

It used to say beast, now it actually says “server name Thief.” But there’s no rank so you can clearly tell that they’re summoned.

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Posted by: Tom Gore.4035

Tom Gore.4035

Tom Gore, indeed you pointed some points I didn’t had in count. Maybe the real player was hidden, is possible. When I mentioned the 2 seconds time, was the time that took to spawn another one after we slain him, with a finish move. Regarding an extra player around? well if he was stealthed we couldn’t see him while he remain that way.
I apreciate the fact you pointed this facts, but regardless I started the post with “hackers”, in no part of my original post I called anyone hacker, just exposed a strage situation that happened to me and a fellow server player.
I hope I don’t cross with such situation in future but if I do I’ll take your advice and will try to get screenshots from combat log.
Thanks for your constructive reply Tom.
Have fun.

If you indeed stomped the first thief you killed then yes, there must have been another thief around (they can move stupidly long distances in stealth with certain utilities and traits) or it was a hacker. Haven’t heard of an insta-revive hack though so I would wager it was another thief.

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