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Posted by: Kythan Myr.4719

Kythan Myr.4719

So I logged into today from SoR to do a little WvW. One of the first things I noticed is that there was a LOT of discussion about hacks specifically how certain players of Blackgate were using those methods to win.

I myself may have had such an encounter with one. About 10+ of us attacked a BG warrior. At first something seemed odd, because of how fast he was moving but then again there could be buffs combined with runes/sigils etc. . . that I’m completely not aware of that could make someone so fast. At times he had to be moving 3x our swift speed because there was no catching up to guy I have never seen someone in pve, pvp, or wvw move so fast. It was like watching The Flash in the Justice League cartoons. Another odd thing is that when we first encountered the guy he was immune to all stuns/knockdowns, etc. . . I saw the little immune text pop over him when I used my CC skills and when the group and I talked about it they said the same. Now I know there are skills that make one immune, but don’t they usually only last for a few seconds. This seemed more like 30 seconds to me. The last odd thing is that he took down two of our guys in one hit. That seems impossible to me.

My dilemma is that could such a scenario as I described above exist in game with the right combination of WvWpts, traits, gear, and food happen without hacks? I’m not in WvW every day, nor do I have or research the super optimal builds like some and that is why I have some hesitation in reporting because I know that false reports can come back on me as a loogie spit out of the car in front of me on the highway.

Now I’m not the most up-to-date guy, but I’m not naive enough to believe that such hacking methods don’t exist – I’m sure they do. I also know that Anet has a strict enforcement policy and likely those players will be caught and dealt with. That lead to me two a couple of thoughts tho.

1. I can’t see the players real player name, but I’m sure reporting is the same as any other time. I just right click on their nameplate and go from there right?

2. Can I leave the explanation I described above as kind of insurance for me because I’m ignorant of these super optimal builds?

3. If some servers gain an advantage due to a few of their players unknowingly hacking (because who would encourage there community to hack just to win, right??? -wishful sarcasm here in case you didn’t catch that). They probably won’t be caught until after the damage is done so if a server wins and those players are dealt with after the season – how is that dealt with? Does that DQ a server? What would be the % of player caught in a server to justify action?

4. Point #3 scares me because if such hacks are out there and this is a highly competitive season does this mean that this is the new state of WvW?

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Posted by: Peetee.9406

Peetee.9406

Sounds like an average warrior to me.

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Posted by: Ricky.4706

Ricky.4706

i just found a youtube video showing it at work, not going to post it or give further details because I don’t think it would be proper – but wow – i had to laugh at how op it makes players. Apparently there’s even more to it than people have complained / discovered about it. – from what I saw – a group of 5 can basically op a t1 server easily. if they added perma stealth to it – no one would know why they lost.

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Posted by: Zplus.4217

Zplus.4217

All I can say is, welcome to September last year.

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Posted by: UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420

Sounds like an average warrior to me.

Yeah, pretty much.

But even if he was hacking, ANet doesn’t do anything about it for like… 3 weeks minimum. If they do anything at all.

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Posted by: Buzzcrave.6197

Buzzcrave.6197

Notice when the video is posted? Anet still haven’t do kitten about it.

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Posted by: Ricky.4706

Ricky.4706

that’s nothing, what i saw makes that look like a food buff lol

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Posted by: Paavotar.3971

Paavotar.3971

Perhaps the warrior was running GS/Hammer build. Makes them mobile while ditching a lot of damage. I know I can down upscaled and low armor targets with around 3 hits from my hammer chain. Getting around 30 second stability with warrior is doable as well. And with the new Healing Signet and good chunk of armor it can feel like you are only poking him with a stick.

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Posted by: Kythan Myr.4719

Kythan Myr.4719

So perhaps the question I should be asking is:

1. Do you feel hacking is currently being used in WvW? A quick youtube search shows you that there are some out there. The speed hack I saw is very similar to what I saw that warrior doing at full speed.

2. Assuming hacking is indeed being used, how prevalent do you suppose it is? Less than 5% of the community? Do you feel some servers use it more than others? Guilds?

3. Do you suppose that hacking is being detected and dealt with in a timely manner?

4. Do you think that the use of hacks might influence the outcome of Season 1?

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Posted by: Paavotar.3971

Paavotar.3971

1. Not as often as it used to happen. Those youtube videos might be from near the launch when the hacking was pretty big issue (especially with orbs)

2. I don’t see that much hacking anymore. Zoom hacking every now and then, but that is not too bad and from time to time I see some other weird stuff I can’t be too sure if it is hacking or not. The overall situation is pretty good in my opinion though.

3. I suppose so. I don’t see them as much as I used to see.

4. Depends how the hacks are used. Capturing objectives? Maybe in this situation. Personal kills? Not that much then, even with the +1 war point boost.

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Posted by: Ricky.4706

Ricky.4706

the video i saw actually showed the panel and was giving a walkthrough. I’m guessing it’s unlisted because I tried searching for it on youtube and didn’t see it.

hacking has been a part of pvp since it came online – when pvp first came online there was a roleplay of good vs evil – the evils were usually the hackers and i know my team won the final elite pvp tournament because our opponents were teleporting lol. Unfortunately as long as it can be done, it will be done. – it’s a game among the evils to not get caught, the staff knew about it and roleplayed even the tos.- in the game i’m referring to, they sent your character to an in game jail after you were caught – basically you had one area to exist and I think there were npc’s there so harsh that you had to delete and start over. It’s part of the rpg-pvp culture. – some people want to win out of skill, others want to win out of being clever. With them, their prize is about not being caught. lol. They didn’t need items because they hacked them in, so they needed to be recognized for something.

I can almost guarantee you that if this game ever introduced alignment – the people willing to cheat would be more than proud to align themselves as evil ! hehe

i’m willing to bet that whomever created ad&d didn’t create a game, as much as reveal human nature and has it’s roots in psychology studies.

My alignment is chaotic – neutral – I can’t call myself good, but I can’t consider myself evil either.

Trust me when I tell you that a cheaters favorite key phrase is “Prove it!” – it’s literally part of the game that you will drive yourself nuts trying to prove it lol. People actually became famous because of it lol.

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