Guild Wars 2

To start off.. this is not a troll post or a post directed at any one server/guild or person.. just a general informational post to remind people of the fact that it still exists.

Over the past 2 weeks, i have seen several players (whom i wont name) from 3 different servers that we have fought on Tarnished Coast that are obvious hackers.

Some of them glitch through walls, some even get on top of the lord room in places where they shouldnt be able to (like air keep in red bl). I have seen elementalists get up from a double down and just run off (no healing… just got up and ran off) as well as other odd things that cant be attributed to lag.

I know lag when i see it and i always check my ping etc (usually less than 20ms) and i have to say that the rate of hacking seems to be growing.

Before, anet would ban these players, but i have right clicked and reported them for botting (when i can target long enough to get a target) and there seems to be no use to file a bug because you never get an answer.

I would like to encourage people to be on the look out for players who they think are hacking and to report them for botting etc.

I would also like to know that devs are looking into instances like this because we had 40+ people report someone the other night for instances like this and nothing was ever done that we could tell, because the player in question kept doing what he was doing for hours on end… and we have spotted the same one doing it multiple times since then.

Having seen things like this since the days of the orb flyers etc, i would like to get some dev input on things like this as to how we can effectively report hackers so they dont end up killing the game, wvw specifically.

Is there a way to report a hacker so that they are investigated within a reasonable amount of time, say before we lose objectives or players due to frustration over the actions they are using? Other than the right click report for botting and ingame bug posting… since these dont seem to work.

Isn’t it obvious they do not care? I have reported the same thing multiple times in the past few years. Yet nothing is done. They are to busy creating more outfits and wrecking WvW to give two kittens.

(Also on TC)
Had a very infuriating fight with a guard from JQ yesterday that kept teleporting while in downed state and healing. Applied enough pressure with range to prevent the res eventually, and as soon as they knew they couldn’t win, an exploit was used to not give kill credit.

The official unofficial hack report button (coming from Gaile) is to use the Bot report option when reporting a player.

A lot of these accounts are throwaway F2P ones people make while using VPN’s or spoofed IP’s. This prevents ANet from actually banning them, and they suffer few to no repurcussions for being banned on the account.

Along with an increase in spies, this is my biggest reasoning as to why F2P accounts should not be allowed in WvW. Let the legitimate trial-users try mass-scale in EoTM and see how they like it, and if they do and want to WvW, they can buy the game.

Now mass-use hackers are cut down dramatically because they’d need to shell out $60 per account to throw away when hacking, and with matchup rotations so volatile, spying/trolling is also less likely and would also result in the need for buying an excess of accounts to do so with, making it unfriendly to most players.

WvW should be a feature only available by paying for the game like the rest of us.

I am not surprised the hackers are still around. Seems like it takes anet literally years to do anything.

trueanimus.4085:

Is there a way to report a hacker so that they are investigated within a reasonable amount of time

I think this is more a hope players hold. I don’t think Anet actively addresses things as they arise, they just can’t without large cost. They have that process for players to submit reports (as a bug though)… but I think they are dealt with in the order they come in, and only when the staff is available next. Let’s say this report a bug option gets roughly 100 reports a day but they only assign resource to look into 20 reports a day. It would take 5 days, or 5 times the resourcing, neither of which meets both Anet and players needs. My numbers were of course hypothetical, and I think Anet just address the issues as best they can.

Crappy to see more of this occurring lately … it seemed there was a good string of time there where most of the hacking was curbed (at least from my opinion and experience).

Well not to defend the hackers. But more times then not they are usually disgruntled gamers. Maybe yall stop acting like kittenboys and emoting and siege finishing solo roamers after yall 30 v 1 them down. Or my favorite spawn camp these guys. Less of this would actually happen.

Nothing ever good comes from getting a laugh out of making some one else salty. In the end you end up the loser and make threads like these because ANet can’t deal with these players.

trueanimus.4085:

I have seen elementalists get up from a double down and just run off (no healing… just got up and ran off)

I’ve seen this one as well, many times. I’m usually roaming, taking supply camps that I pass, and now and then I run into people. Quite a few of the ele’s I fight get up suddenly when they’re downed. Nothing dies for them to rally off of, nobody is in the area, just the two of us.

I really wish that someone would be done to the people who hack/exploit in WvW, but I think we all know that it’ll continue, and probably get worse.

Most likely they glitch into it. DBL has a lot of glitch spots and anet obviously didn’t fix them.

Reaper Alim.4176:

Well not to defend the hackers. But more times then not they are usually disgruntled gamers. Maybe yall stop acting like kittenboys and emoting and siege finishing solo roamers after yall 30 v 1 them down. Or my favorite spawn camp these guys. Less of this would actually happen.

Nothing ever good comes from getting a laugh out of making some one else salty. In the end you end up the loser and make threads like these because ANet can’t deal with these players.

I’ve never once done this to someone else unprovoked, and discourage this kind of behavior as well.

But absolutely nothing justifies cheating. It’s one thing to be angry. It’s another to sacrifice the integrity of the game/mode/community.

SkyShroud.2865:

Most likely they glitch into it. DBL has a lot of glitch spots and anet obviously didn’t fix them.

I’ve seen it most predominantly in EBG. And it’s clearly not glitching in a lot of these cases.

So JQ is know for cheat meta?
like…
one mesmer from JQ got cough glitching bay, drop portal and then exit to get his grupies inside… he just did that w/o afraid of getting banned like it was a normal thing in front of every one.

Starting to think that is a very valid gimmick Anets want us to use.

DeceiverX.8361:

Along with an increase in spies, this is my biggest reasoning as to why F2P accounts should not be allowed in WvW. Let the legitimate trial-users try mass-scale in EoTM and see how they like it, and if they do and want to WvW, they can buy the game.

wouldn’t be the EoTM hardcore players go complain here about spying or trolling on their colors?

aside from that i agree on this one but its anet’s call because this is one of the flyers they introduced in gw2 as an advertisement

if they want this to advertise on public they better make at least a CGI mini series story or an anime on the story of Destiny’s Edge on YouTube at least if they don’t have the budget on small screen

Reaper Alim.4176:

Well not to defend the hackers. But more times then not they are usually disgruntled gamers. Maybe yall stop acting like kittenboys and emoting and siege finishing solo roamers after yall 30 v 1 them down. Or my favorite spawn camp these guys. Less of this would actually happen.

Nothing ever good comes from getting a laugh out of making some one else salty. In the end you end up the loser and make threads like these because ANet can’t deal with these players.

Sounds like your salty! If you do not like being attacked 30 v 1 then maybe do not roam. If I meet a 30 + group I try to get away or at the very least try to take a few out with me. It is part of the game. If you do not like it, then go play another game. I hear Hello Kitty has a great game for those who do not like group play.

If somone is using a cheat software and you report them anet can see if they are using it. But if someone is just using in game glitches and you report them its not hacking that can be proven by looking at logs.

Hacking is technically software execution by running codes. Bug abuse is doesn’t require anyone to run any codes or external software.

I want to say it is better to submit a bug report, because its technically bug abuse. And you would get further by having the bug possibly fixed to prevent its exploit.

Mylerian.9176:

I hear Hello Kitty has a great game for those who do not like group play.

But this is children game rated for ages 12+. Better would be 16+ for WvW. Even adults rage quit there, or come give back after CJ – not forget whisper insults. Not a children game, if you ask me.

Would be nice to be able to record what happens in WvW. And later replay fights, in slow motion. Just like we watch ice hockey games because everything there happens so fast and we like replays. Client program would continuously record the client content; maybe open source programs to visualise the replay. Any hackers, siege criefers etc would be caught, I’m sure.

saw several players last night on JQ that would get downed.. then slide right back to the enemy zerg in downed state, get heals and get back up. It seems that hacking is alive and well… our entire zerg reported them… several times.. yet nothing happened.

BTW.. this was not lag or skills.. this was clearly hacks.. they would get to 1% in downed state and with 4-5 people unloading on them they would not die… they were also unstompable.. 4 people tried stomping one guy.. the animation would finish.. and would never kill him.

annoying as heck when people run like this

People really hate running back to the fight. It’s why EBG best map, shortest run back… now… the run in EBG must be too far, so just use super never gonna die or get pinned hack… then you never have to leave zerg again. I’d also recomend the never run out of food and oil hack + infinite inventory hacks… all are a must for optimal farming.

Mylerian.9176:

Isn’t it obvious they do not care? I have reported the same thing multiple times in the past few years. Yet nothing is done. They are to busy creating more outfits and wrecking WvW to give two kittens.

They do not care, so its obvious they are gimmicks way to take stuff when a grup cant take by normal figthing.

I think every one should start doing it, cause i believe trully this is how Anet wants us to play smart(lame) and dirty wich is what gimmick gw2 is about, gw2 isnt aboutb being a skille dplayer but a smar kitten player that can see the advantages of broken gimmicksm why do u think this game failed at pvp so hardly?

if things dont get fixed and Anet even “created bugs” like the Desert BL where part of the wall went missing, in expectation that players go to that place while they ignore the real glitcs gimmick that that keep so some players can still abuse it, its all stupid gimmicks to make game more easy, so they leave those gltiches so the players use it (as in be clever for Anet standards).

A lot of what is being attributed here to hacks really is lag. Next thing you’ll say the dolyaks are hacking when you see them teleport sometimes.

Kin Bear hacking our thoughts /reported

The number of hackers is so prevalent that I don’t bother reporting any more. It doesn’t feel like Anet GMs do more than a cursory clean up from time to time. Very discouraging.

Mylerian.9176:

Reaper Alim.4176:

Well not to defend the hackers. But more times then not they are usually disgruntled gamers. Maybe yall stop acting like kittenboys and emoting and siege finishing solo roamers after yall 30 v 1 them down. Or my favorite spawn camp these guys. Less of this would actually happen.

Nothing ever good comes from getting a laugh out of making some one else salty. In the end you end up the loser and make threads like these because ANet can’t deal with these players.

Sounds like your salty! If you do not like being attacked 30 v 1 then maybe do not roam. If I meet a 30 + group I try to get away or at the very least try to take a few out with me. It is part of the game. If you do not like it, then go play another game. I hear Hello Kitty has a great game for those who do not like group play.

Wow dude you took that way too personal ah. Lol The only thing I’m salty about is getting scammed by someone I thought was a friend to spend real money for gems to transfer to their server under false statements about said server.

Other then that I personally don’t get too salty over kittenty F1 spamming no skill zerglings who I mostly kill in 1 v 2 sometimes 1 v 3 fights. After such things happen to me a few times in a row I either just log to play another game, or just go do some map completion. Nothing to get too salty over losers who can’t be ask to learn how to play the game, so they just spam you down with no less then 15 players.

However others’ might use this sole reason as justification to use Cheat Engine or other script programs to gain what in their minds would be just evening the playing field. More so if they are on a server that has the outnumbered buff %80 of the time of the week for 2 or more weeks.

Disclaimer: ANet knows I play fair and square, so after yall have read this post. I couldn’t care less if yall would to think I cheat, when I don’t. Tho I know a few people’s reasoning for doing so. Yes on one hand it may seem justified and on the other hand it just seems flatout wrong. My personally, I just value my Top-End PC too much to allow such programs to infect my software and hardware. Others on the other hand with not as much to lose tho…….

There would be no hacks if someone took the time to actually read the kitten admin logs. If you hacked its most likely there in the logs. And I agree that free accounts have made exploiting in wvw worse and its not improved the game mode or population situation.

Happens in every MMO game more or less and yes it does suck. The typical fix from other vendors is to run a game master that responds to player reported problems. ANet doesn’t employ or promote community players into that position. I think this is a mistake but they seem to think the existing system works well enough.

Reaper Alim.4176:

Well not to defend the hackers. But more times then not they are usually disgruntled gamers. Maybe yall stop acting like kittenboys and emoting and siege finishing solo roamers after yall 30 v 1 them down. Or my favorite spawn camp these guys. Less of this would actually happen.

Nothing ever good comes from getting a laugh out of making some one else salty. In the end you end up the loser and make threads like these because ANet can’t deal with these players.

I like the way you think!

On that note, respect other players. Just stomp them and run off. Only /laugh if you managed to get outnumbered and defeat them or if they jump off a cliff cuz they don’t want to get stomped (thanks for free bag/wxp).