Guild Wars 2

Who gets them? What dictates the percentages of the bonuses? Do they apply to everyone on your server, including pve areas? Thanks.

The only gripe I have about the bonuses is that the people who get them do not benefit from them.

The people who have to constantly WvW spend time and money in WvW and do not PvE often. Those that do PvE never help WvW.

To gain higher points so that the benefits get better, people have to sacrifice time to WvW. On Servers like FoW where there is a enormous population that do only PvE and reap the benefits of WvW folks efforts is quite sickening.

Absolutely ridiculous way they have designed the bonuses. Do WvW and get no rewards to get bonuses for people who do not help you….. yeah that sounds about right.

KensaiZen.3740:

The only gripe I have about the bonuses is that the people who get them do not benefit from them.

The people who have to constantly WvW spend time and money in WvW and do not PvE often. Those that do PvE never help WvW.

To gain higher points so that the benefits get better, people have to sacrifice time to WvW. On Servers like FoW where there is a enormous population that do only PvE and reap the benefits of WvW folks efforts is quite sickening.

Absolutely ridiculous way they have designed the bonuses. Do WvW and get no rewards to get bonuses for people who do not help you….. yeah that sounds about right.

So wvw bonuses only affect pve? They don’t affect anyone playing wvw?

We don’t get the bonuses while playing WvW? WTH?

So… let me get this straight:

1) No bonuses
2) Crap drop system
3) Crap rewards
4) Crap badge drops
5) Spend a lot of gold doing it

Please tell me this is not the case…. please.

BroScientist.9875:

KensaiZen.3740:

The only gripe I have about the bonuses is that the people who get them do not benefit from them.

The people who have to constantly WvW spend time and money in WvW and do not PvE often. Those that do PvE never help WvW.

To gain higher points so that the benefits get better, people have to sacrifice time to WvW. On Servers like FoW where there is a enormous population that do only PvE and reap the benefits of WvW folks efforts is quite sickening.

Absolutely ridiculous way they have designed the bonuses. Do WvW and get no rewards to get bonuses for people who do not help you….. yeah that sounds about right.

So wvw bonuses only affect pve? They don’t affect anyone playing wvw?

In WvW you would be too busy to be killing mobs to even notice it. Unless you farm areas in WvW then its useless Bonuses. In WvW you spend far more money on repairs and upgrades then you would be making. So in fact these bonuses you will never feel unless you were on a server that gets over 200k points every week.

moirweyn.9872:

We don’t get the bonuses while playing WvW? WTH?

So… let me get this straight:

1) No bonuses
2) Crap drop system
3) Crap rewards
4) Crap badge drops
5) Spend a lot of gold doing it

Please tell me this is not the case…. please.

This is why I’ve quit WvW until Feb. In the time I’ve spent in WvW I could have made a legendary weapon by now. But since I am loyal to my server (god knows why) I stay at around 5G because I spend all I make on WvW.

Anet, wake the hell up. WvW is dying.

Back to how the boni work, they reset with each new WvW matchup, correct? So towards Friday you’ll score the best loots, craft better (?) and have slightly better stats overall. Then Friday evening it’s back to 0?

As for all the kittylitter in this thread, you do WvW and benefit your server through the points earned. How is that unfair towards you?

I play WvW to have fun killing other players with my guild. Those percentages of stat-boosts don’t positively or negatively impact my game, unless I’m running dungeons in which case I benefit from it.

KensaiZen.3740:

The only gripe I have about the bonuses is that the people who get them do not benefit from them.

The people who have to constantly WvW spend time and money in WvW and do not PvE often. Those that do PvE never help WvW.

To gain higher points so that the benefits get better, people have to sacrifice time to WvW. On Servers like FoW where there is a enormous population that do only PvE and reap the benefits of WvW folks efforts is quite sickening.

Absolutely ridiculous way they have designed the bonuses. Do WvW and get no rewards to get bonuses for people who do not help you….. yeah that sounds about right.

How do you know the bonuses affect only PVE? I know one thing my HP went up while in WVW because of the bonus that was up.

Out of ALL the bonuse, how many of them do you think benefit you in WvW?

Beefcake.9032:

Back to how the boni work, they reset with each new WvW matchup, correct? So towards Friday you’ll score the best loots, craft better (?) and have slightly better stats overall. Then Friday evening it’s back to 0?

As for all the kittylitter in this thread, you do WvW and benefit your server through the points earned. How is that unfair towards you?

I play WvW to have fun killing other players with my guild. Those percentages of stat-boosts don’t positively or negatively impact my game, unless I’m running dungeons in which case I benefit from it.

So to WvW succesfully someone has to pump money into upgrades or siege prints and also repairs. This is how you win to gain points to get these bonuses. During WvW you do not have time to stop and farm or start crafting. If you stop you lose. If you win you lose. People who want a free ride in WvW i.e a zergling or people who just want to kill kitten and not bother about winning or the points game, will not be affected as they never upgrade or buy siege prints to help the server to win.

Drop rates are terrible. Badges drop rates are terrible. The only people that make any miney in WvW are tagalongs who are just there for the ride.

Why arent the benefits geated towards WvW so that the people who sacrifice can at leadt benefit from it. Having the rewards only be good for PvE draws people awsy from WvW which is the opposite of what needs to happen. Competetive WvW is a numbers game. Those who just go there to kill kill kill barely contribute to it.

Every commander will know what im talking about. Those that don’t, have obviously been in WvW for a little fun and dont contribute much anyway.

To gain the most out of WvW rewards you have to PvE. Does this make sense?

KenzaiZen I’m not sure if you are aware of this but the game actually has a strict “PvP” set up. This is not the WvW setup. As the designers state, the WvW is actually meant to be a mix of PvE and PvP. What does that mean?
It means that it is A-OK for that loner to go off and get a vista, a skill point, a poi or kill some Vet monster that has spawned. If you want strict must must win everything fighting always matches – I do suggest you look up the “PvP” setup within the game.

As is, the WvW setup works such that what you do within the WvW map, you will be earning bonuses for yourself and your entire server. There are gathering nodes and vistas and such for a reason, there are even “Event” spawned monsters to kill (hey that’s that bonus money for monsters buff included!).

Having the bonuses be server wide is actually what encourages me to participate in WvW. Whatever I do, is getting us toward the next bonus that I’ll enjoy.

And why don’t those bonuses JUST apply to WvW? Because that would completely unbalance and yes – very swiftly completely kill off any WvW. Think it through: one server is doing well in a match at week start, by mid week they have such bonuses geared specifically toward their PvP part of the setup that the servers who started off wrong have no chance whatsoever of catching up or winning. Everyone would just stop. There would literally be no point.

I do suggest you seek the structured "PvP’ option within the game, as that is obviously the pure experience you are seeking.

And all great Commanders are great because of adaptability – they learn to adapt strategy and play to use best what they have at hand. They will always keep and win the best possible bonuses for their server, no matter what they have. This does not mean they will “win”, this means a great Commander leads well by adapting and influencing others – not just shouting insults or frustrations out at them, as some tend to do. The less adaptable a Commander is, the less of a Commander they are. The less charismatic a Leader is, the less people want to follow them.

I do completely agree that the badge drop rate is crap and needs a good fix. The game apparently was intended that characters could live completely in WvW but they did not achieve that in economy. You can easily spend a lot more money in the WvW play than there is any chance to make. You make very little.

No more whining about WvW. We already know it all. Yes no auto-loot is a pain, but they can’t fix it. Yes the badge drop rate is tiny, just do puzzles with all your characters if you want badges. Learn to work your way around things then stick and whine.