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Posted by: Humphrey Bear.2698

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The pic says it all .

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Posted by: dzeRnumbrd.6129

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The problem is long term vs short term balance.

Long term DB wouldn’t do as good as they are now without their IoJ linking.

Short term DB is killing it because they have strong guilds (like ND) sitting on IoJ so they can play on T1.

Long term DB being open is good for T1 balance (because they’ll lose strong SEA IoJ guilds on the next relink).

Short term it is bad because IoJ remains linked.

Unless you increase the speed at which you adjust server linking matchups then you can’t do much about this. You don’t want to block people transferring to a weak server just because they’re in a winning match up.

Do you choose long or short term?

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Posted by: Humphrey Bear.2698

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The problem is long term vs short term balance.

Long term DB wouldn’t do as good as they are now without their IoJ linking.

Short term DB is killing it because they have strong guilds (like ND) sitting on IoJ so they can play on T1.

Long term DB being open is good for T1 balance (because they’ll lose strong SEA IoJ guilds on the next relink).

Short term it is bad because IoJ remains linked.

Unless you increase the speed at which you adjust server linking matchups then you can’t do much about this. You don’t want to block people transferring to a weak server just because they’re in a winning match up.

Do you choose long or short term?

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Posted by: Jerry CCH.9816

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Anet close full server

population system is fake.

it’s from my Anet friend.
he told me

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Posted by: Nuzt.7894

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First Tier problems

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Posted by: briggah.7910

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The pic says it all .

TC is probably RP’ing in the new map while BG is hibernating again as they have no reason to win. BG only plays when there is a reason to win

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Posted by: Jeknar.6184

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Let’s just wait to see DB sink like a rock on the next pairing just like YB did.

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Posted by: ArchonWing.9480

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Not sure what a 65k lead over 3rd place really says.

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Posted by: RodOfDeath.5247

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Uh oh….T1 is unhappy anet. We need a red post stat!

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Posted by: Jeknar.6184

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Not sure what a 65k lead over 3rd place really says.

Well, I know what a 195k lead over the 3rd place says, but it’s not T1 so it isn’t important.

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Posted by: dzeRnumbrd.6129

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80% ND are on DB

Fair enough, that’s not the news that JQ is hearing but I’ll defer to your greater knowledge.

It still doesn’t change the point that server status is based on local populations rather than linked populations and relinking is what will aid with balancing rather than server statuses

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Posted by: Reverence.6915

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The crying about PPT is cute. The few SEA guilds DB got are strong fight guilds. Enjoy what they offer and stop whining.

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Posted by: Link.1049

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The pic says it all .

Short answer is…it’s not. Only thing that’s changed is that for low pop servers there is sometimes a wait to get into ebg now.

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Posted by: Lord of Rings.5371

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“How is this helping balance ?”

No. It does not.

But why would Anet stop a transfer/new account opportunity? The game was on 50% sale up till July 27th.

The game constantly creates stress and pain for some players so they can justify themselves to pay for in game “pain killers” like moving to a winning server and grind or buy a legendary.

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Posted by: SkyShroud.2865

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You have to see that DB is link with IOJ, thus it is highly possible the combined population is larger than a single full server.

However, the idea of linking really isn’t 100% about balancing, it is about putting servers together to create more activities due to concentrated populations. The only “balance” part about linking is during the relink part itself, so the balance will only come at every relink which is every 2 months.

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Posted by: Mezmere.3241

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ND carries, enough said.

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Posted by: Hexinx.1872

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I’m sure it all works itself out … DB is strong enough to unlink … and I would assume getting up their to full. If not yet, as soon as the remaining transfers hop aboard.

The only thing I don’t enjoy about the match up is the amount of running DB non SEA does. I don’t play SEA but I do play late NA/early OCX and it’s like a freakin marathon trying to find something to fight. We finally started getting something in SMC last night but it’s arrowcart city… regardless a fights a fight and if that’s what it takes to come out and play, so be it – I guess. Still some good forrays in their.

Pretty sure many players are presently spending time on some of the LS3, not just TC. TC busy trying to have fun with the new emotes

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Posted by: Tommyknocker.6089

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I’m on TC and all I can say about this entire week is BORING. Next to no fights unless you are outnumbered 6 to 1 and even then more times than not you are facing AC’s in the open field. There is no balance between the servers in T1 currently and unlinking and closing DB will not even solve the problem. Some will say that TC is doing the LW3 but honestly it took me 2 hours, and even if replayed a few times I cannot see it keeping the WvW players away all week. Others say that BG is taking another break and that may well be the case, but even the most dedicated server (and my hat’s off to them) cannot push every hour of every day against a constant tide of fresh blood.

ANet has to take one for our team (and their wallet) and limit the amount of transfers allowed within a given month (year?) so as to curtail the bandwagoners. But that will never happen, and I personally will not be surprised if IOJ/DB are still linked/open this evening/reset. I hope it is worth it to them though because I have found playing their game of “stack the server” to be one way of making me play something else.

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Posted by: Cerby.1069

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The pic says it all .

Well according to that, DB has superior tactics and combat skills than the other two and are winning for being good.

Perhaps we should celebrate their awesomeness in grandeur style?

Be harpy you have scores that are that close….I am very jealous some have an actual position to compete for (2nd place). Alot of people are stuck in 1st, 2nd , 3rd places each week….every week…with insanely large score differentials between each position that makes anything you try to organize or do meaningless.

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Posted by: Xenesis.6389

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The few SEA guilds DB got are strong fight guilds.

They all have ram mastery?

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Posted by: Tommyknocker.6089

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The few SEA guilds DB got are strong fight guilds.

They all have ram mastery?

And AC mastery, but honestly do you need anything else? /s

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Posted by: Xenesis.6389

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Well according to that, DB has superior tactics and combat skills than the other two and are winning for being good.

Except for when you look at their kdr…

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Posted by: Hexinx.1872

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The pic says it all .

Well according to that, DB has superior tactics and combat skills than the other two and are winning for being good.

Perhaps we should celebrate their awesomeness in grandeur style?

Be harpy you have scores that are that close….I am very jealous some have an actual position to compete for (2nd place). Alot of people are stuck in 1st, 2nd , 3rd places each week….every week…with insanely large score differentials between each position that makes anything you try to organize or do meaningless.

DB KD ratio is still the worse of t1 … by a long shot. In fact they are in the hole by 7.5K to break par on 1.0 scale. I would say it’s more about SEA cleaning house over the other two servers than anything else. BG is on an obvious break as they have the least kills overall but they still have a positive KD ratio.

I would even bet if you could see the scoring throughout the week you would see DB/IOJ maxing ppt over SEA with little challenge.

Congrats is a congrats, but I wouldn’t attribute it to superior tactics & combat skills.

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Posted by: Illconceived Was Na.9781

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First, TC (and to a lesser extent BG) have always suffered in WvW whenever there’s been massive PvE updates. For reasons that would interest a sociologist (but probably not many of us), some servers have traditionally exhibited preference differences.

Second, isn’t a good thing that the server that isn’t full is doing better? Previously, full servers rolled over less full ones. I’d love to see more low-ranked worlds getting linkages and pushing their opponents to their limits. I’d love to see more volatility in the match ups — it’s been too static for too long.

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Posted by: Hexinx.1872

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Yep, I like variety in the matchups (would love a server that has a strong late NA fight groups to move up to t1, makes matches more enjoyable than playing against ppt hard ons), was only pointing out that combat skills are usually defined by the players who are alive and actively killing more then they die. This week has been boring overall at least between 10pm-2am PST. Almost clockwork opposite from the first few days when DB moved up. If this is to be the norm… then at least I have time to get those rings infused.

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Posted by: Reverence.6915

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The few SEA guilds DB got are strong fight guilds.

They all have ram mastery?

Both ND(MGR) and Ke are fight/GvG guilds. They’ve given me more of a challenge in open field fights than against any other guild or group in the past 1.5 years.

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Posted by: Swagger.1459

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Someone can correct me if I’m wrong but these are my impressions…

Ultra super stacked BG has not been pushing hard over the past month or so it seems.

TC was very full, lots of overtime pushing, then they barely squeaked by a not trying hard BG.

New match up with not trying hard ultra super stacked BG vs a newly locked trying hard TC vs very full not locked DB and medium full IoJ…

Im sure there were a number of transfers to DB because they are still wide open for newcomers (not complaining because that’s how we do it to bypass as much mess as possible), coupled with a very inspired medium padded IoJ ready for war.

I had already known the outcome of these matches right on reset, and I’m sure outcomes and messes like these are what all servers face.

Something needs to change because we can’t have all this funk going on with wvw.

Edit- What makes this worse is that 2 months was chosen for linking instead of 1, and after a week of trying players are going to give up due to motivation loss with being outnumbered.

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Posted by: Jayne.9251

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Uh oh….T1 is unhappy anet. We need a red post stat!

Or open up all the servers cos guilds stuck, NO FAIR, then eat popcorn while threads about Anet DO SOMETHING about BALANCE pop up predictably (look at current front page, lol).

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