Guild Wars 2

Especially in a T1 server where there are many players, we often come across people teleport hacking or sometimes speed hacking when they think noone is around. Generally its the same repeat offenders too, whom I am assuming keep doing it because they get away with it. The problem, unlike PVE content is that I can’t see the info of the player to report if they are an enemy. This would not be be an issue if there was a report hacking button or something but there is not. Instead we are asked to send an email to exploits where the only info we can provide is MAYBE a screenshot (which won’t show anything useful because its just a picture,) and a few lines of text saying “some guy in SoR server who is a necro in EA guild or some guardian on SoS but I forgot the guild.” If they are on my server I can give the account details through friending them (I follow a lot of hackers just to see how long they get away with it and if they keep the account… a lot do sadly, even after I reported and sent SS months ago.)
So how do we identify these folks better so that exploits team can take care of them? Is there some way i’m missing other than right click to get more details? Should I just install fraps and send videos, upload to youtube? I just want to be more helpful in taking care of these cheaters because it is very disheartening to see blatant cheaters who have been exploiting for weeks, months still playing the day away every day with the rest of us who arent.

yagerau.6438:

Especially in a T1 server where there are many players, we often come across people teleport hacking or sometimes speed hacking when they think noone is around. Generally its the same repeat offenders too, whom I am assuming keep doing it because they get away with it. The problem, unlike PVE content is that I can’t see the info of the player to report if they are an enemy. This would not be be an issue if there was a report hacking button or something but there is not. Instead we are asked to send an email to exploits where the only info we can provide is MAYBE a screenshot (which won’t show anything useful because its just a picture,) and a few lines of text saying “some guy in SoR server who is a necro in EA guild or some guardian on SoS but I forgot the guild.” If they are on my server I can give the account details through friending them (I follow a lot of hackers just to see how long they get away with it and if they keep the account… a lot do sadly, even after I reported and sent SS months ago.)
So how do we identify these folks better so that exploits team can take care of them? Is there some way i’m missing other than right click to get more details? Should I just install fraps and send videos, upload to youtube? I just want to be more helpful in taking care of these cheaters because it is very disheartening to see blatant cheaters who have been exploiting for weeks, months still playing the day away every day with the rest of us who arent.

If you were able to accurately and conclusively identify cheaters ANet would be compelled to do something about it. Therefore it isn’t likely to happen.

One of my odder captures, was of an SoS guardian, in a T3 Bay, owned by JQ, no attack/defense activity, I was refreshing siege. The guardian (not normally a stealth/teleport class) appeared at the base of the vista ramp, ran up it and stopped to view. I got a screen shot and attacked with my rifle. The guardian turned, started to jump down to me, and vanished.
Since the vanish occurred “in combat”, with no other “thief/mesmer” activity before or after the event, I’m forced to conclude this was cracking of the teleport variety.
I sent the SS to Anet. Ingame reported as well. No idea if this did anything, since I have the shot, I suppose I could friend and see what’s happening.
This post is not meant to reflect on the 1000’s of players that do not do this in wuv wuv, nor to defame or disparage any server. These crackers are everywhere.

tl;dr Catching a screen shot is your best evidence, but if you run fraps (and similar apps), that would be even better evidence.

Yeah not sure how it happened but last night a thief was able to enter our citadel and kill all our npcs. Also some tarnished coast players were under the map making it impossible for us to take keeps and towers. i think someone got screenshots.

Just some notes when considering teleport hacking reports.
Of course lately its been the ones who do several small teleports in sequence, and not the below skills which are obvious if you are watching. Perhaps the auto-detection features don’t pick it up and thats why i’m seeing more of this than the previous fly and long-range teleports?

Guardians have three teleports, one to a foe and burning and one to nearest hurt teammate and heals. There is the sword teleport too, to foe.
Necros have wyrm teleport, spirit walk return teleport.
Warriors have no teleports that I can think of.
Mesmers have portal, blink teleport, and some defensive skills do a short range teleport.
Elementalists have lightning flash only I believe.
Thief has a lot of teleports. Sword move 2, shortbow 5, and various dual skills that either teleport away or toward target, shadowstep, shadow return, and the trait that teleports on disable.
Ranger: no teleports that I can think of. Has a stealth when disabled trait though.
Engineer: none that i’m aware, don’t really play it

gnarkiller.1862:

Yeah not sure how it happened but last night a thief was able to enter our citadel and kill all our npcs. Also some tarnished coast players were under the map making it impossible for us to take keeps and towers. i think someone got screenshots.

Under the map is definitely a bug or exploit, but thieves can stay in a keep almost indefinitely stealth with cloak and dagger on a gate. basically you wait until stealth is almost up and hit Cloak and Dagger, it hits right as you unstealth and you get recloaked with no reveal debuff. Always need to check for this before reporting thieves, they are really tricky by nature.

MarMaster.6241:

tl;dr Catching a screen shot is your best evidence, but if you run fraps (and similar apps), that would be even better evidence.

does the exploit team accept video files or youtube links? I’ve never got a reply so I don’t know if they just delete it or something since its large file or outside link. Which is another trouble through using email system instead of in-game reporting. Limit on transfer size

My machine is too slow with recording at the same time, so I don’t run them. If I did, I’d post them to another site (yt, gamecam, etc) and send the link to Anet. I would not use any keyword that would attract watchers, Something like event, bay, 20130127T2245, BL, JQ, SoS. This is just my thoughts.

^ you can prevent your videos from showing up on any youtube search as is. Unlist the video.

Yagerau

i believe the call wurm is a Norn ability not necro. the one that calls out a wurm and then you can telle to it.

k nvm i looked on build site and found it. norn is “call wurm” necro is the telle one called “summon flesh wurm”

Anet cant just ban people because someone says they are hacking. Otherwise people would just abuse it. It is not hard to get your friends/guildies to report some guy you don’t like. Anet looks into reports and I am sure they take them very seriously. But you have to understand that it is very hard to catch people at it unless you watch them constantly while they are on. Which no gaming company has the man power to do. The best Anet can do is locate heavy abusers of these hacks/cheats and study how they work so that they can patch the loopholes they exploit. Banning is a band-aid fix. Fixing the loopholes that allow these cheats to work is a much better use of their time.

yagerau.6438:

gnarkiller.1862:

Yeah not sure how it happened but last night a thief was able to enter our citadel and kill all our npcs. Also some tarnished coast players were under the map making it impossible for us to take keeps and towers. i think someone got screenshots.

Under the map is definitely a bug or exploit, but thieves can stay in a keep almost indefinitely stealth with cloak and dagger on a gate. basically you wait until stealth is almost up and hit Cloak and Dagger, it hits right as you unstealth and you get recloaked with no reveal debuff. Always need to check for this before reporting thieves, they are really tricky by nature.

Yeah but there was a thief in our starting citadel area on our borderlands map. He killed all the NPCS there. The other teams aren’t supposed to be able to enter the area.

yagerau.6438:

“some guy in SoR server who is a necro in EA guild or some guardian on SoS but I forgot the guild.”

This is my favourite line. Why you ask? Because I’m an SoR players and last night I was chasing around this SoS or JQ necro who was using a speed/teleporting hack.

I think what we can accurately conclude from this is that all tier 1 necros are hackers.

During my PvE (that makes me impure, right?) hours, I have been screen-shotting, friending (for tracking) and reporting what I call blink farmers. Teleporting about node to node and back to a start point. The game still has a few, in the earlier days it seemed they were uncountable, now that the numbers are smaller, this is doable. Since PvE is not so competitive, or has the same level of drama, it is lower key. Interestingly, these “players” have much lower achievement points than the average player.