Guild Wars 2

some ppl are just dumb and lazy and since they can get supplies a from tower and wont ge punished, why wouldnt they take them? Who cares about upgrades and stuff?

Way to solve it (as i see it) would be give ppl small reward for every supply which they get to from a camp. +2 W exp for each supply that means 20 W exp for 10 supplies. Yes not a big deal, but you know how ppl love to farm their ranks and stuff, so once they can get their ranks faster, they will do so and hopefully we will have more supplies in our keeps and towers. And maybe this will as well encourage ppl to build cannons and oils in towers and keeps.

PS: you probably figured, but for slower ones… for this to work would be important to give ppl Wexp just for taking supplies from camps.

So what do you think about this?

tsubus.8761:

remove wxp when taking supplies from towers+ would actually make more sense.

Thattt would be terrible! Sometimes it’s a good thing to take the supply from a tower.

Players are unable to take supplies from tower/keep/castle if any upgrade is going on and the tower/keep/castle isn’t under attack.

Punishing players from taking supplies from a fully upgraded tower/keep/castle with a full stock of supplies is kind of dumb.

this is a common problem. SM outer wall repair trolls. they will repair outer as its being trebbed and cata’d from enemy towers when its clearly going to break anyway or the commander says to wait and keep supply.

if i spend my time escorting dolyaks just to help someone farm achivements/wexp……not cool bro

Just spam map chat telling people not to take sup from wherever. This should work most of the time. But if you still see people taking sup from towers at the wrong time, those are probably the people who do not know English or cannot use teamspeak. In that case, just take it easy. The game is open for everyone. :P There are a great amount of oceanic people playing the game too who do not know English and who are pugs who just go into wvw for casual plays.

Remove supplies completely. Problem solved.

Remove the “repair-wall” daily. Whenever this is part of the daily, it’s getting worse.

There are times when it is appropriate to use supplies in a keep and there are times when it is not. But just because someone does not agree with you does not mean they are stealing supplies.

Alesh.4196:

So what do you think about this?

it doesnt solve anything
as you said, who care, ppl will take supply from tower, build AC near supply depot and than go to camp (when 0 supply in tower) to gain their exp :P

Supplies exist for a reason. You cant restrict players/pug/militia or whatever you call them while leaving it to the decision of someone who had 100g lying around. If a player wants to take supply, they can. WvW isn’t made to be a game to cater to the elitists who get to impose themselves onto others. Perfectly said, you cant, and anet won’t, receive what you ask. Maybe if you bothered to explain your reasons in /say, people would listen, rather than being Caps locked to death.

You may be right for overall strategy for the good of the zerg and server, but in the end, you cant lock out the 1v1 players to feed your own ambition

I have to agree with phate. And the use of the word “stealing”, wow, harsh. They are taking supply and using it in a way that you deem is not the most optimal. Slippery slope towards total elitism.

Encourage with the use of some bonus WXP, but if i had a silver everytime we had to stand watch at a supply camp telling people we were upgrading it and asking not to take supply, i’d be a rich man.

So just steering people towards taking supply from camps isnt going to cut it either, because even that will be a problem.
I think the key here would be far better fit in educated the players. Making them more aware of how the supply mechanic works. And taking supply from a tower would hinder the upgrades at that tower(or any other place).
So players can make the judgement call themselves on wether they feel they need that supply more, or not. Aswell as ofcourse map communication.

Ofcourse this wont stop the kittens, but those will always find a way so dont even bother.

Are you SURE they’re doing it because they’re lazy? MAYBE they don’t know they’re not supposed to take them from there?

Be friendly and polite and NICELY tell them why they shouldn’t take it from there.
Use proper language, don’t abbreviate, don’t assume that person understands what’s going on, don’t assume they know what the abbreviations mean.

Tell him in /say:
“<player name> please don’t take supply from here, we need to keep this fort/keep full of supply, go grab supply at <ping the camp’s point of interest>”

After you tell him that you can also say in /map:
“Please don’t take supply from this fort/keep [POI] right now, grab them at supply camps instead, like this one [POI] or this one [POI]”

Ask if they’re new, if they are, ask if they want to team up, and as you play help them understand WvW.

I can tell you are probably rude towards these people, without realizing they might be new to WvW and are just trying to help. Yet you call them “dumb”, “lazy”, “slower ones”, and say “stealing”, when in fact they might be trying to do their best to help. I bet you tell them “wtf r u doin” or “stop being lazy”, which doesn’t help them understand what they’re supposed to do.

Seems to me you’re part of the problem.

Adding WXP to camps won’t do anything if players don’t understand what they should be doing.

Vaugh.7193:

Players are unable to take supplies from tower/keep/castle if any upgrade is going on and the tower/keep/castle isn’t under attack.

Punishing players from taking supplies from a fully upgraded tower/keep/castle with a full stock of supplies is kind of dumb.

What if the tower is under attack and few defenders? There’s a million reasons why it’s good to be able to take supply from a tower or keep, yes, even while it’s upgrading. If you limit the ability to do so, that can often mean losing the tower because the outside has a massive zerg, and those few defenders were unable to build any siege to defend it.

Now if people would only tick siege so it didn’t despawn, or heck, even build it from time to time … lol ….

As for the OP, the only thing you can do is establish good WvW habits amongst players. That starts by educating people early and often, and repeating it when a tower or keep is NOT under attack. Education is key. But sometimes you have players who just don’t care either. You do your best with what you have. But saying these things in the heat of battle tends to get missed. Use your map chat a lot .. players can only get better if they are armed with the right information.