Guild Wars 2

Ok so… in the 1 of topics(https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Stability-changes-general/page/5#post4893524) guy named Kicast made me totally worry about this game and Anet’s attitude to players. Basically he wrote how much op Revenant will be and how much those changes with stabillity are made to boost him into op machine that will be the only playable heavy class at WvW. Why? Here is article that he wrote:

“There will be solution to beat zergs:
Knock Them down to death to make it impossible for them to react
Impossible today because you cannot come close to the zerg to land the current aoe KD as they are close range skills. (Yes there is static field and line of warding but it apply only on the line and thus makes it not possible to apply on a whole static zerg)
But in few months you will be able to:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Drop_the_Hammer
=>AOE KD
=>1200 range
=>radius 240…lol radius 240 (equivalent to traited symbol for guards)
=>15 sec cool down (don’t hesitate to abuse it)
Little difficulty with some control abuse on you ?
No problem:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Retribution_%28trait_line%29
=> dodging machine (endurance when struck)
=> stab on dodge
=> retal on dodge
and
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Inspiring_Reinforcement
=> 6 sec duration aoe stab pulse
=> 5 sec cool down
=> perma stab pulse ???
Want to engage without risk ? No problem:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Phase_Smash
=> 1200 range
=> TP chill/damage and then come back
=> 8 sec CD
In top of that: 2 blast finishers on the same weapons 8 sec and 15 sec cd
Once ennemy front line KD….rush with unblockable attacks while negating ennemy range attacks:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Vengeful_Hammers
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Field_of_the_Mists
Or if you prefer to keep safe at range:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Coalescence_of_Ruin (2 sec CD)
Note: cooldown of skills have also to take into account the energy management but if it is as well balanced as thief initiative it should not be a real issue.
The zerg detroyer profession will come soon…when it’s ready….keep fingers crossed
Reading it…I feel I deserve some retribution from Anet from so much advertising…but don’t be mistaken…I am 100% against brokenly OP classes…it ruins the game in the end.”

Basically all u need atm to beat blobs / zergs at WvW- perma stabil, perma dodge, op range dmg, lot of ccs etc. etc. So I’m asking you ANET, Am I right to say that u are forcing us to buy expansion in order to play WvW? Cos as it is now not a single meele heavy can do anything, Why? Go to link that i posted in () at top of this post or play a bit against blob as meele( for example hammer / sword+wh warrior ). Also next proof that THIS change is for Revenant: Adept Trait | Enduring Recovery |10 |Chance when struck to gain endurance - this wouldn’t pump up many times with old stabil right? For more proof just read what this guy wrote or go to wiki and check out released revenant skills and traits

Would this not be better served in the WvW sub-forum, then? Or, at least, HoT?

Good luck.

ps: Nothing is set in stone, yet…might want to wait before succumbing to being ‘forced’ to do anything. ; )

You’re not forced to buy anything.
However if you desire the content that is being offered in the expansion, then you will have to purchase the expansion to obtain said content. I don’t understand how anyone could expect it any other way.

As for the Revenant. Its still under testing. A lot of balancing is yet to be done. The nerf hammer is pulling at the leash to hit that profession, I’m sure of it.

No one knows how it will work out, or what changes they’re making to the other professions, and often this sort of analysis turns out to be untrue after people start to play the game. Until the meta reforms, no one will really know anything.

But if you like the game, and you’re not buying the expansion, you’ll be at a disadvantage anyway, just by having less options than others.

Azhure.1857:

You’re not forced to buy anything.
However if you desire the content that is being offered in the expansion, then you will have to purchase the expansion to obtain said content. I don’t understand how anyone could expect it any other way.

As for the Revenant. Its still under testing. A lot of balancing is yet to be done. The nerf hammer is pulling at the leash to hit that profession, I’m sure of it.

Well u migth have right, but still he is atm much more betetr than wariror and guardian mixed, he have longer stabs as they showed and as they said he will be tank so i think they won’t nerf this stabil.

A player told you…

Don’t trust players.

Vayne.8563:

No one knows how it will work out, or what changes they’re making to the other professions, and often this sort of analysis turns out to be untrue after people start to play the game. Until the meta reforms, no one will really know anything.

But if you like the game, and you’re not buying the expansion, you’ll be at a disadvantage anyway, just by having less options than others.

Well idc about pve options like masteries etc. I care about changes taht lead to make NEW class much better than old 1 and that is what I’m aware of. As u could read everything in stabil changes lead to Revenant’s skills

There will be AOE circles and animations to allow people to dodge out of the way, just like the other professions.

They also said they are looking at the old professions so that the Revenant doesn’t have all the cool shiny skills.

Styxx.1564:

A player told you…

Don’t trust players.

He have proofs form wiki and streams, that is my conclusion aswell. Just think of it, look at revenants skills – not only those that are linked here, chek out dulfy.net for all revenants revealed skills. I’m juts much more aware now cos of his words and as i know Anet’s statemant for players they might do it actually – i mean stuff " Wanna play WvW? Go ahead, buy expansion, create revenant class and u will have everything u need to wipe blobs again"

Just a flesh wound.3589:

There will be AOE circles and animations to allow people to dodge out of the way, just like the other professions.

They also said they are looking at the old professions so that the Revenant doesn’t have all the cool shiny skills.

But still he have much more than old calsses, more stabillity, better ccs, save bomb, much more dps etc. I know he need to be balanced, but c’mon actually this patch is made for him…

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

Would this not be better served in the WvW sub-forum, then? Or, at least, HoT?

Good luck.

ps: Nothing is set in stone, yet…might want to wait before succumbing to being ‘forced’ to do anything. ; )

Yeah posting thsi in HoT might be better, but the point is that no1 check this subforum also as i saw lot of players write stuff like thsi at map chat

Did those pages also confirm the Devs stated that the skills, etc. were a work-in-progress? Because that is what they said, ya know….

Did those pages also show all the counters the new Specialization skills, etc. would provide? Not likely, as we don’t have that information yet, do we….?

Kasteros.9847:

Vayne.8563:

No one knows how it will work out, or what changes they’re making to the other professions, and often this sort of analysis turns out to be untrue after people start to play the game. Until the meta reforms, no one will really know anything.

But if you like the game, and you’re not buying the expansion, you’ll be at a disadvantage anyway, just by having less options than others.

Well idc about pve options like masteries etc. I care about changes taht lead to make NEW class much better than old 1 and that is what I’m aware of. As u could read everything in stabil changes lead to Revenant’s skills

Well, specializations might very well make all professions more powerful than they are now, and you won’t have access to them without the expansion.

Since we don’t have knowledge yet on specializations, it might be that you’ll be disadvantaged even if there weren’t a revenant.

Answer: Save your pennies now, so you won’t have to do it later.

So it wil be P2W now As u proven new specializations and Revenant will be much better than current classes so it is basically what i meant, they are forcing players to quit the game( who want to get killed by some lows who gave away their money to anet for low expansion) or buy expanion( to kill those low players who tought that they could be better without skill by buying expansion ) Thx for next proof man :P

Kasteros.9847:

He have proofs form wiki and streams, that is my conclusion as well.

Alright, I’m going to present a hypothetical situation here for you, a chance for you to be put into Arenanet’s shoes.

You have a much hyped expansion being worked on, and are going to give your hungry players a sneak peek at the new class being developed. Do you…

A: Err on the side of caution and use a well-balanced, perhaps even a little underbalanced build of the class, so that no one panics about it being broken, but also no one will be especially excited at the chance to play it.

Or…

B: Go all out and throw out a broken test build to help encourage hype, showing off things like ‘Stability after dodge with no internal cooldown’ and ‘Stunbreak by using Legend swap with no internal cooldown’ and get everyone even more excited about what will come when they spend their money.

You’re going to pick B. It’s the smart business decision. That said, the things I mentioned are almost certainly going to be nerfed by the time the actual release comes, and that’s fine. But it’s no cause to panic. They’re just starting out broken before refining it into balance.

Xiahou Mao.9701:

Kasteros.9847:

He have proofs form wiki and streams, that is my conclusion as well.

Alright, I’m going to present a hypothetical situation here for you, a chance for you to be put into Arenanet’s shoes.

You have a much hyped expansion being worked on, and are going to give your hungry players a sneak peek at the new class being developed. Do you…

A: Err on the side of caution and use a well-balanced, perhaps even a little underbalanced build of the class, so that no one panics about it being broken, but also no one will be especially excited at the chance to play it.

Or…

B: Go all out and throw out a broken test build to help encourage hype, showing off things like ‘Stability after dodge with no internal cooldown’ and ‘Stunbreak by using Legend swap with no internal cooldown’ and get everyone even more excited about what will come when they spend their money.

You’re going to pick B. It’s the smart business decision. That said, the things I mentioned are almost certainly going to be nerfed by the time the actual release comes, and that’s fine. But it’s no cause to panic. They’re just starting out broken before refining it into balance.

And as i wrote, they won’t do that Cos 1. It affect WvWers – they don’t care about us and 2. The more op class the more ppl buy it to not be at disadvantage ;P I’m exctited to play this, since it will balance current stabil changes – that is more than sure, if not then give me 2, 2 reasons why they changed it after almost 3 years. Just 2 reasons pls( that make sense…). Cos i can give u 2 atm:
- make revenant much more op,if they make him more op and needed, more ppl will buy expansions – profit for anet from WvWers
- nerf guilds / zergs vs blobs, cos how can smaller group of more experienced and skilled players kill a group of much more and brainless players?! This can’t be!

Xiahou Mao.9701:

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That can also be seen as breaking the game to pave the way for purchasable content.
“Welp, if you wanna keep enjoying WvW that’s not dull pirateship meta, just Revenant-up and $$€€ out for an expansion!”

Revenants will replace the warriors, since they give stab clear condis and other things mentioned here well you still need a banner 3 or 2.

Ebel.2650:

Revenants will replace the warriors, since they give stab clear condis and other things mentioned here well you still need a banner 3 or 2.

But they can’t afk middle of fight like warriors.

So…no1 else feel like me? ;(

Speculation, conjecture and paranoia based on more of the same without knowledge of specialisations, new boons and the new bl meta. Maybe we can complain about the current bugs and issues instead of imagining them.