I hate commander and the design behind it.

I hate commander and the design behind it.

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Posted by: TrickSmartly.7391

TrickSmartly.7391

Commander, the most pretentious attention-seeking buff ever devised, adds nothing to the game and guarantees that wvw is less popular than it should be.

Let me be frank, commander is for the arrow over your head and nothing more but it shouldn’t exist. Right now wvw is not accessible to new players and casual players for one reason and that’s the commander icon. When players log on to the map they should be able to see all their allies. Leaving them in the dark adds nothing and the only explanation for it is the commander icon, a way to “gate” fun behind and costly and useless buff which should be standard.

New players will not have access to ventrilo or mumble servers and those two things make the map icons nearly useless. What they are left with is confusion over where their teammates are. People want to play in a group and in this game it’s more important than ever. While anet successfully removed a lot of the frustration of other mmos, apparently that was never meant to apply to wvw.

You cannot ask where to go in map chat at all because once you do the players have already moved on making map chat pointless. For the most part, no one uses it anyway and no one will answer your questions. You cannot rely on map chat for anything.

A simple question. Is it fun? Is it fun to stumble around hoping to find a group of teammates? Is it fun to be ignore on map chat? Is it fun to run around for ten or twenty minutes only to die to a group of enemy zerg?

Where are my teammates? What am I supposed to do? Where am I going?

I hate wvw but I shouldn’t. It should be fun, accessible, and easy to figure out what is going on and where. It’s not and it’s not fun because of it. It already gives an advantage to the more coordinated teams with team speak and destroys any chance of actual fun taking place for people queing in solo.

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Posted by: Halo.8976

Halo.8976

Again, how exactly it’s commanders’ fault?

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Posted by: Wolffmother.4895

Wolffmother.4895

Not everyone has this issue, some servers I guess have been lucky with commanders that communicate well in the map chat and have been very successful with it.

Personally I have encountered almost all commanders that are in a voice chat server but very few (maybe 1 or 2 of about 20) ignore map chat, virtually all of them will always state their current status and ask for updates on various areas in map chat

Honestly having a commander on the map makes things easier, at least people having an arrow to follow is better then having 50 people in map chat arguing with eachother and never getting anything done

TL;DR I can see how that would be annoying but also I guess you have had some bad luck with commanders then sorry

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Posted by: TrickSmartly.7391

TrickSmartly.7391

WvW reworked.

-All teammates now visible on the minimap.

-Commander reworked. Once per hour a player can teleport directly to the commander’s location. 4 sec cast time.

-all keeps offer a 4 minute swiftness buff to players upon

-health of all structures reduced by 5%

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Posted by: TrickSmartly.7391

TrickSmartly.7391

Again, how exactly it’s commanders’ fault?

If teammates were visible than commander would be useless. Commander is there to “gate” a standard feature which is present in every multiplayer game I play.

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Posted by: TrickSmartly.7391

TrickSmartly.7391

Not everyone has this issue, some servers I guess have been lucky with commanders that communicate well in the map chat and have been very successful with it.

Personally I have encountered almost all commanders that are in a voice chat server but very few (maybe 1 or 2 of about 20) ignore map chat, virtually all of them will always state their current status and ask for updates on various areas in map chat

Honestly having a commander on the map makes things easier, at least people having an arrow to follow is better then having 50 people in map chat arguing with eachother and never getting anything done

TL;DR I can see how that would be annoying but also I guess you have had some bad luck with commanders then sorry

It’s only partially an issue that most wvw maps will ignore any question in map chat making coordination impossible. The other part is that even if they tell you they’re heading to a certain capture point the group may have already taken it or moved on to another point.

And commander offers an icon and new chat. A new chat? Is this 2005? Nearly everyone with commander will already be in a teamspeak server which makes any new chat useless.

I don’t know how wvw passed QA. It must be the same team who approved the Orr zones.

My main point that I should have included in my post was that more coordination of players will offer more pvp and less running. WvW is for large scale pvp and the UI should be updated to provide that experience. If you don’t like the zerg, defend a supply depot, kill a dolyak, or go to spvp. Commander should offer something totally unique for the investment and more mobility of players would provide that.

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Posted by: Rpgtabbycat.5869

Rpgtabbycat.5869

If you get close enough, you can see other teammates on the map. Those are the green dots moving around.

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Posted by: Halo.8976

Halo.8976

Well, you can complain and all, but for the time being start using map more often, it can provide you with almost all information you want.

And if the chat is quiet – start coordinating your team by yourself and people will join. If it won’t help – transfer to another server.

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Posted by: Odaman.8359

Odaman.8359

Everyone in your guild should show up on the map in wvw regardless of how far they are. They should also have a different color dot. This is of course the lazy workaround …. how you make an mmo without a function to make large groups is beyond me.

You’d think squads would be close to a raid since it costs 100g, but sadly it’s trash as well considering you can’t even see the dots of the entire squad on the map.

The lack of large groups is probably my biggest issue with this game. Something that has been a basic feature in nearly every modern mmo… yet was abandoned by arena net… it doesn’t make you innovative when you replace something that works with trash.

Odaman 80 Mesmer
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Posted by: Sekin.7803

Sekin.7803

They should add one function to the commander icon and make it really powerful: click on it for instant teleportation.