Guild Wars 2

I’ve been playing competitive games for a long time, and I never learned more or had more fun than when I was being defeated on a regular basis.

You think losing all the time isn’t fun? Try winning all the time.

Well osnap, HoD missing all orbs~

Aside from the fun factor of either side, it really starts to have an effect on the morale and overall health of the servers you’re playing against to the point where people will switch servers to avoid playing you so they can actually enjoy themselves.

I don’t know if anyone played on Israphel server in Aion back when it was pay to play and the level cap was 50 and later 55, but the Elyos always won and the Asmos always lost, for 2 years straight. It got tiring pretty quickly for both sides – there was no competition and Asmo morale sucked. It also had an effect on things like economy and gear progression but those things aren’t really effected by WvW outcomes in this game at least so that’s good.

@Leiloni try that back when Zikel was so unbalanced. Was there for about 8 months before the move to now Tiamat but the ratio at peak hours in sieges were like 10:1. They take their 2 Ingg forts in 10-15 minutes then attack our side and take 1 of the forts. After that its a race on whether we can capture the 1 fort that we are attacking before they come in and wipe us and steal that fort aswell.

I remember Zikel. I made an Asmo alt there at one point after playing Elyos on Isra for so long – it was the only other East coast server so it was my only choice. Depressing is the word I’d use to describe being an Asmo on that server. People had totally given up.

I sincerely hope that the Titan Alliance doesn’t break up. I really enjoy fighting them while we’re in the Tier 1 bracket. Here’s hoping we face you guys again soon.

In order to break TA, u need to find a strong guild from China
You say Chinese ma?

ta isn’t the whole or even a huge part of HoD. HoD is a huge bandwagon server that gained popularity from the TA videos that they put out… it was a great PR move… make an epic looking video to attract as many people as possible. bring your mostly european/oceanic/asian pacific guilds over to an NA server and advertise that you are some sort of great set of players.

and then the rest falls into place when the bandwagon hits like a rock.

sorry to say TA, but you guys said it yourselfs, you aren’t a huge force, and you didn’t carry GoM anywhere, because as soon as TA left the server, so did all your bandwagoners lol. you are simply a commander icon on a map, attracting massive pugs.

or the “nice” word you guys gave them… militia lol

Uh.. We never even officially announced the server we were on, it was more like people recognizing TA guild tags and spreading the news among themselves before TA members ever said anything.

Kracin.6078:

ta isn’t the whole or even a huge part of HoD. HoD is a huge bandwagon server that gained popularity from the TA videos that they put out… it was a great PR move… make an epic looking video to attract as many people as possible. bring your mostly european/oceanic/asian pacific guilds over to an NA server and advertise that you are some sort of great set of players.

and then the rest falls into place when the bandwagon hits like a rock.

sorry to say TA, but you guys said it yourselfs, you aren’t a huge force, and you didn’t carry GoM anywhere, because as soon as TA left the server, so did all your bandwagoners lol. you are simply a commander icon on a map, attracting massive pugs.

or the “nice” word you guys gave them… militia lol

lol get ur facts right.. i bet u need some history lessons :P

Samfisher.7942:

Uh.. We never even officially announced the server we were on, it was more like people recognizing TA guild tags and spreading the news among themselves before TA members ever said anything.

this is the way it happened for a lot of guilds that moved. people saw tags, and then it was up on forums in moments. official or not, it still happened lol

HulkaGem.2568:

Kracin.6078:

ta isn’t the whole or even a huge part of HoD. HoD is a huge bandwagon server that gained popularity from the TA videos that they put out… it was a great PR move… make an epic looking video to attract as many people as possible. bring your mostly european/oceanic/asian pacific guilds over to an NA server and advertise that you are some sort of great set of players.

and then the rest falls into place when the bandwagon hits like a rock.

sorry to say TA, but you guys said it yourselfs, you aren’t a huge force, and you didn’t carry GoM anywhere, because as soon as TA left the server, so did all your bandwagoners lol. you are simply a commander icon on a map, attracting massive pugs.

or the “nice” word you guys gave them… militia lol

lol get ur facts right.. i bet u need some history lessons :P

well to be honest, it works like this..

when HoD is losing. TA claims they have next to no people playing for X reasons.

when HoD is winning, forums are jam packed with TA claiming victory for their massive organization and how awesome they are at coordinating.

its pretty easy to see just looking at my built in history in my web browser

if you want beat TA, Oceanic primetime is most important. They start at 3am where NA presence very low and Asian still at work/school.

When Asian (GMT+8) log in at 8am , They already secure most key area. We can make comeback but to ask everybody climb a mountain everyday is a hard ask.

Good Luck

KevinK.9182:

if you want beat TA, Oceanic primetime is most important. They start at 3 where NA presence very low and Asian still at work/school.

When Asian (GMT+8) log in , They already secure most key area. We can make comeback but to ask everybody climb a mountain everyday is a hard ask.

Good Luck

i would love for anet to implement something that lets you see the number of players at any given score tick for each side on the actual score sheet so we can put some of this player count at X hours to rest.

because the outmanned buff, as great as it is, sometimes doesn’t even apply correctly lol, so you could be outmanned but youll never know it unless you are constantly being killed and respawning to get the buff on you

You other servers should get some top quality Australian guilds to join you…perhaps some of the major influential guilds from WAR hey? giggles

SKYeXile.2716:

You other servers should get some top quality Australian guilds to join another server…perhaps some of the major influential guilds from WAR hey? giggles

its easy to say now, but everybody knows that 90% of the population of large organizations are set where they are, and its a feat to get one to move to a new location. there isn’t an unlimited number of players, and there are more than 2 servers that want these guilds to join them.

don’t get me wrong, everybody and their mother is trying to recruit as many as possible as many ways as possible.. hell. i remember ruin got tons of flak for trying to recruit directly on the servers they were beating, so they could build up forces.. and look what happened lol… now people get angry at people for recruiting, and then they tell them to get back to recruiting the next day.

other peoples problems never seem that bad when you never have them

Kracin.6078:

SKYeXile.2716:

You other servers should get some top quality Australian guilds to join another server…perhaps some of the major influential guilds from WAR hey? giggles

its easy to say now, but everybody knows that 90% of the population of large organizations are set where they are, and its a feat to get one to move to a new location. there isn’t an unlimited number of players, and there are more than 2 servers that want these guilds to join them.

other peoples problems never seem that bad when you never have them

You’re obviously an American arnt you? I don’t think you caught my subtle point.

SKYeXile.2716:

You other servers should get some top quality Australian guilds to join you…perhaps some of the major influential guilds from WAR hey? giggles

TRF, DiE, Elite, Synapse is worth all oceanic combine. what other influential guild you talking about? Zhentil Keep?

KevinK.9182:

SKYeXile.2716:

You other servers should get some top quality Australian guilds to join you…perhaps some of the major influential guilds from WAR hey? giggles

TRF, DiE, Elite, Synapse is worth all oceanic combine. what other influential guild you talking about? Zhentil Keep?

Thats the point. All the other guilds arnt around anymore or dont have the players or core to be a major threat.

as powerful as HOD is. this isnt even remotely a reasonable solution. thread should be closed

As much as this is never going to happen would be great to fight some decent competition during oceanic prime time. Yet to come across much opposition that do nothing other than fall over when you prod them.

Larsa.6519:

As much as this is never going to happen would be great to fight some decent competition during oceanic prime time. Yet to come across much opposition that do nothing other than fall over when you prod them.

Come to the tier of tears…. oh wait no…its the same thing… :/

Awww, I thought this was a call to get organized and develop tactics to give TA the beat down it deserves instead of another ‘this is what other people should do to fix my losing’ thread.

I don’t mean to sound harsh, it’s just getting old how many players want to stop TA and HoD from dominating when the solution is clear. It just takes some planning and effort.

Yes, the solution is pretty clear. JQ, SBI, and ET should man up, swallow their pride, and team up on HoD. I think 24/7 2v1 would get the job done, no?

I miss our tovl runs Pretty sure ist and i bumped into you a while back when we were on ehmry bay. Two of us were roaming level 40 something and this asura ranger binding rooted and gibbed us both. We were both laughing we couldnt even dps the root…

Prototype.9852:

insignia.3625:

lets split every family up in the world so every orphan has a mother/father/sister/brother/pet dog.

yeah. that works.

Flawless logic. How can you compare that. I bet you have fun always winning, and waiting three hours in queue, and being a no-name guild in a big name Alliance. Not an attack, I see a lot of SYN and you guys are good, but wouldn’t it be better to be known as SYN, and not as TA? I’m not really trying to break Titan Alliance, I’m just wondering what’s the point of that alliance. Being the best ? It’s great. But you got no competition right now, being the best has no point.

Well this is the first time we’ve ever played in an Alliance of this scale as we have mostly played in unofficial Oceanic servers in past games, so it has definitely been a positive and eye-opening experience.

Frankly, we were planning to play mercenaries at the start, much like what WM is doing right now. But then someone called Enzo from CND came along and hooked us into TA before it became known as TA. We had been invited by several major Alliances, some from EU servers as well, but ultimately decided to put our trust in CND.

You’re right in the assessment that the guilds in TA play for competition and challenge. For SYN, we value loyalty and while something inevitable might occur in the unforeseeable future, we shall stick with the Alliance’s decisions until then.

Breaking TA will do nothing. Their NA Guilds are being carried by the EU Guilds. This has been proven over and over again.

Pretty much any other claim made by anyone from HoD about it being skill or structure is laughable at best.

The only skill involved was email, and maybe some salesmanship. The EU guys that decided to bite the bullet and roll on NA servers.

It has been shown that HoD can be beat around the clock, except for NA daytime.

The only reasonable request for Arenanet, is to truly make this a global game, and stop separating the EU and NA Regions.

SoulstitchMMO.1396:

Breaking TA will do nothing. Their NA Guilds are being carried by the EU Guilds. This has been proven over and over again.

Pretty much any other claim made by anyone from HoD about it being skill or structure is laughable at best.

The only skill involved was email, and maybe some salesmanship. The EU guys that decided to bite the bullet and roll on NA servers.

It has been shown that HoD can be beat around the clock, except for NA daytime.

The only reasonable request for Arenanet, is to truly make this a global game, and stop separating the EU and NA Regions.

Id like to know where our other EU guilds are myself.

On a more personal note though, as an Alliance member myself i too have hive mind overlords who seek to restrain my right to free thought, how did you manage to break free and go against the will of your overlord?

Rise up to the challenge, not ask for weaker opponents.

What i dont understand is what is holding you back ?
You think second place doesnt get the amount of attention ? talk to other alliance’s who play on diffrent time zone’s ?

Its always the forum crying baby’s here, waiste that energy into a good informative posts about your server and what your plans are.

Look around you and ask what guilds wants to make a switch to make your own server a 24/7 WvW active.

There are big community’s of guilds like TA, they are not the only one you know.
But come on make some kitten effort if you wanne beat #1.

You think TA have Gods playing ? offcourse not, they make mistakes, just like any other players.
There is no secrets in WvW, its pretty straight forward, it aint like WWII where you needed to focus and spend troops on 5000 diffrent fronts…
Its making sure your server knows whats going on at all times, a simple:
Bravost Attack – 30 ET’s Keep door at – 70%.
^thats info that should be spammed and people should respond.

But the 1st think servers should ask themselves is, what big guilds of other time zone’s can join us to get 24/7 WvW going.

Europe has it 1000 times worse with only 2 french servers owning 100% of the maps when EU sleeps.
They dont have Ausie’s / Asian’s or other time’s to pick from as easy as their USA brothers do.

All diffrent time zone’s are present here on USA server’s you just have to communicate and talk on Vent / Teamspeak to ge tthem aboard.

Maybe ask Arenenet to make it so they dont lose their guild points so it makes it even easier to merge guilds into 1 alliance.

But for the love of all that is holy stop hating on HoD and accuse them from cheating or wathever things you have in mind to discredit a whole server population.

Lets say after TA breaks up than another alliance become first.. Den u come into the forum n whine again.. than u ask for them to break up again.. and the same thing happen again.. so tell me whats the difference ?

I know, let’s go play on EU servers!

SKYeXile.2716:

Id like to know where our other EU guilds are myself.

On a more personal note though, as an Alliance member myself i too have hive mind overlords who seek to restrain my right to free thought, how did you manage to break free and go against the will of your overlord?

It’s not my fault we constantly have to carry you Vegemite-eaters around on our backs all the time! Can’t blame the guy for feeling plowed.

Don’t be jealous Sky! You know you can just jump into my channel and ask for WvW lessons everyday!

kiss

What’s Vegemite?

ritsuko.2863:

What’s Vegemite?

Vegetarian Marmite.

The same as sheep to NZers.

Lol, this reminds me of the mass migration to Tichondrius after the first season of RBGs in WoW. We went from occasionally having a fun match against the other Top 5-10 teams, to struggling to find any decent competition after they all transferred to our server, to selling spots in farm teams, to quitting. Winning all the time does actually take its toll.

I don’t have a lot of respect for TA or Ruin in a game with posted rankings where everyone can instantly transfer to join up with the zerg. The talent will concentrate for maximum pubstomping into a single zerg server or two (or three). If TA or Ruin want to impress anyone, they should migrate to Kaineng, and see if they can come back and beat HoD.

I don’t care if you all stick together. If you really are that talented, you should be able to jump ship to any server and still make #1 overall.

Do that, and I’ll gladly sing your praises.

rook.4625:

… for the sake of wvwvw.

If you always win, be it through arguments or games, eventually no one wants to contend with you anymore, culminating in less competition and players altogether.

Just something to ponder.

Edit: Flamecoat on

This concept makekitteniggle. Break up an alliance because they work well together so other disorganized people can be more competitive. All that does is lower the bar, it is like grading on a curve, now that the curve is lower the rest feel they are better when they really are just as bad as they used to be and have no reason to get any better because the bar was lowered.

Perhaps i will come ask for lessons ernesto, i do need more recruits, you seem to have filled multiple guilds by the looks of things so you seem like the right person to goto. I see no other EU guilds in TA, therefore its conclusive you’re a skilless zerg guild that needs multiple guilds to hold your massive euro zerg.

lol Tichondrius? The mass exodus started ages before RBG came about mate. We in Insomnia start the massive influx of BG coattail riders back in vanilla.

I totally agree, TA should totally disband or move to another server. As someone who played aion for 2 years, I can honestly tell you that eventually all these winning become boring. I was in a guild called sunshine, and we pretty much dominated everything.

Eventually, we had no real competition for anything because we had beaten the spirit out of the asmo.

SherlockBrolmes.4725:

I don’t have a lot of respect for TA or Ruin in a game with posted rankings where everyone can instantly transfer to join up with the zerg. The talent will concentrate for maximum pubstomping into a single zerg server or two (or three). If TA or Ruin want to impress anyone, they should migrate to Kaineng, and see if they can come back and beat HoD.

I don’t care if you all stick together. If you really are that talented, you should be able to jump ship to any server and still make #1 overall.

Do that, and I’ll gladly sing your praises.

You call out Ruin yet they’ve done exactly what your saying. They were originally on Northern Shiverpeaks, had alot of bandwagoners on that server but then they went to Eredon Terrace which was one of the 3 new servers (a.k.a Kaineng). They worked their way from the bottom to the top tier, it’s only very recently that Eredon Terrace gets close to being a high-pop server, there still largely a medium one.

Or am i just detecting a bias here?

On Topic: Personally it’s up to TA what they wish to do, all i know from experience is that the longer they wait to make such a decision the harder it is to implement since a move of such a scale would take at least a week to sort out due to not everyone logging in every single day.

titan alliance had boycotted WvW
what you guys even talking about…..

Came here to read this and what do I see… all the blame going on Ernesto and his massive GIN group. You, TA’s only EU guild, are causing this stir again with your abhorring amounts of ownage. What are we to do with you Ern?

You can’t really tell people that formed up to play together that they can’t do it anymore.

Granted, it’d probably be better for the game overall if they, say, split into 3 or 4 groups and improved a number of medium population servers. It’d promote much more healthy competition overall. It’s a bit silly that servers have to be ranked in “tiers” and that there is such a disparity between #1 and the bottom.

Making a huge alliance like that is more or less the equivalent of taking your clan in some FPS game(TF2, CS, you pick) and stacking onto one team and just stomping a pug server all day. Sure, you may run into some talented players who can oppose you, but you’re also probably just rampaging through some guy who just installed the game an hour ago and auto-joined a random server.

After going against HoD for several weeks straight, it can be a lot of fun when WM’s around since there’s a good deal of organization, but outside of that it’s usually just a mess. I’ll be incredibly happy if SBI is facing new opponents next week just to see something new.

GW2 WvW is determined by how many off hour asian players you have, kinda sad.