Guild Wars 2

Was thinking about some of the problems cited by the community, and it got me thinking…

My idea is this: A team captures territory in another team’s BL. Every tick (or whatever increment works) a “loyalist revolt” (or whatever) could break out, threatening the gains of the other team. Defenders present could quell the revolt, earning rewards and points for their team. Encourages sides to actually hold their gains, and gives defenders something to look forward to. I know this is pretty rough, but does this idea (or something like it) sound workable to anyone?

More NPC’s to kill…EOTM is that way ^^^^^

this sounds a better idea for pve…please leave this stuff out of wvw, bad enough theres animals, npcs, and siegerazer trolling already in wvw.

This is pve. I dont like pve

I thought this already came in the form of trolls?

Anet has yet to fix the event so it can be completed though.

Fair enough on the points of “PVE in a PVP Zone”. However, WvW already is largely a PvE Kharma Train with a fringe of PvP. Even worse is that WvW is becoming irrelevant in the lower tiers due to lack of interest. Anything to bring in new blood would be nice at this point. Without people, there is no competition.

That being said, I do agree to an extent. What I think the PvP purists need is a dedicated GvG mode that focuses on players killing players rather than the NPC fantasy battle that is WvW. Until they give us this (likely never at this rate) we will have to make due with the infrastructure we have been given.

(Also Ty all for keeping your criticism civil)

Happicakes.2054:

Fair enough on the points of “PVE in a PVP Zone”. However, WvW already is largely a PvE Kharma Train with a fringe of PvP. Even worse is that WvW is becoming irrelevant in the lower tiers due to lack of interest.

This isn’t the case in all tiers. There is very little K-training in T2. As much as people like to complain about how EotM is just a “ktrain pve map” it’s removed a lot of that stuff from the other wvw maps.

Victory.2879:

More NPC’s to kill…EOTM is that way ^^^^^

I proposed something around the OP post awhile ago (https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Scoring-Discussion/4483469), and the reason was not to give you more NPCs to fight, but to devalue PvD and enforce you to garrison your possessions or to disable a 695 score of 10 PvDler.

Sometimes when I’m scouting, I would be happy to do… anything literally, but sometimes I have too many things to do (building sieges, repairing walls/gates, upgrading/retaking nearby camps..).

It’s sad, but when you don’t have anything to do, even pve-things are starting to seem interesting.. Like “Let’s just kill Harpy while I’m on my way back to Hills”.. So even thou I don’t wanna fight npcs in wvw, if your keep was not contested the last X (bigrandomnumber) minutes, dunno if it would a good change or not.

Or just give us back Quaggans! Let’s Kill All The Kraits and Punish the Enemy with our Quaggans!

(If you make an event every ~30 min, which gives ya rewards if you can refresh a siege under 30 min timer… Imagine the race for the last AC/treb from all the leechers xD )

Victory.2879:

More NPC’s to kill…EOTM is that way ^^^^^

NPCs have a role to play in WvW. If you want GvG, play something else.

Skroo.1560:

Happicakes.2054:

Fair enough on the points of “PVE in a PVP Zone”. However, WvW already is largely a PvE Kharma Train with a fringe of PvP. Even worse is that WvW is becoming irrelevant in the lower tiers due to lack of interest.

This isn’t the case in all tiers. There is very little K-training in T2. As much as people like to complain about how EotM is just a “ktrain pve map” it’s removed a lot of that stuff from the other wvw maps.

I did over-generalize a bit there didn’t I? You are right; I play on FA now and barring the weeks that we get our turn in the T3 circuit (so sorry T3 guys, your situation is terrible, and I hope a reasonable solution is found) there is significantly less k-training. However, the lower you get, the worse it is. This issue is part of the reason our guild moved from Kaineng to where we are now. That being said, thanks for calling me on it.

Happicakes.2054:

Fair enough on the points of “PVE in a PVP Zone”.

Except it’s not a PvP zone. It’s a WvW zone.

Better to let WvW die its inevitable slow death than introduce more PvE garbage into it.

Svarty.8019:

Victory.2879:

More NPC’s to kill…EOTM is that way ^^^^^

NPCs have a role to play in WvW. If you want GvG, play something else.

If you are clueless about wvw, post somewhere else

Svarty.8019:

Happicakes.2054:

Fair enough on the points of “PVE in a PVP Zone”.

Except it’s not a PvP zone. It’s a WvW zone.

Perhaps you dont quite understand what actual WvW is about, try getting out of eotm you might be surprised.

WvW was advertised as PvPvE

PvE events appearing when a map stay unchanged too long could help giving people something to do when there no opponents on the map.

I see alot of people complaining about PvE in WvW. However WvW was intended to be a mix of PvP and PvE.

NPC’s create a chaos factor that makes WvW exciting. Anyone who fights around Umberglade in EB knows how a small fight can get crazy when a few wolfs join in. Sure you can blame those wolfs for you losing the fight, but thats just another element to combat you must deal with.

To put it simply, If you don’t want to fight npcs, then your probably better off playing sPvP.

Comments like these are what’s going to give rise to eotm 2.0

Sounds interesting to me, at least.

Victory.2879:

More NPC’s to kill…EOTM is that way ^^^^^

I think EOTM is that way because of the map layout and players accepting its not WvW. It was the majority of the community that embraced it as a karma train and the circular labyrth like layout of the map does not support WvW fights or defending.