Ideas for Massive Changes to WvW

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Posted by: The Lethe.2953

The Lethe.2953

These are some ideas for massive game changes for WvW. Credit goes to BAITness.1083 for the post that sparked this one.

Idea #1. Multi-World Teams
Goal: Keep world scores closer and more dynamic by combining the scores of worlds from multiple tiers.
Note* Akkadian posted this idea. It would require some big UI changes.

Fights take place over 3 tiers, involving 9 servers. The green server in t1 would be teamed up with the red server in t2 and the blue server in t3. The blue server in t1 would be teamed up with green in t2 and red in t3. The red server in t1 would be teamed up with blue in t2 and green in t3.

They are not all fighting on the same maps, mind you, the only real “teaming up” is from their scores. The servers still only fight in their tiers, but the winner at the end of the week is the team with the highest score. This allows every match to matter, every server to have a chance at first, and every server push to have an impact.

Idea #2. Desperation World Buff
Goal: Keep world scores closer and more dynamic by instituding a buff for losing worlds akin to the outmanned buff, emabling points upon capturing an objecive.

When the 3rd place world falls more than 15k points behind the 2nd place world, the Desperation World Buff activates. (similar to the outmanned buff) The buff, will grant your world points for every objective captured, just like in edge of the mists. This will enable worlds that have fallen behind to organize major comeback from behind. It is a major morale booster to make up 10k points in a day. Most matches are decided by Monday or Tuesday. This buff would allow for matches to swing on a Thursday. The point at which the buff would activate and deactivate is up for debate. (Set point difference, or percentage is ok too) The amount of points earned for capturing is also up for debate too.

Idea #3 Off-Season Rewards
Goal: Reward players for fighting for first even during the off seasons.

The reward tickets should not be restricted to only the tournaments. Grant 5 tickets for 1st place, 3 tickets for 2nd place, and 1 ticket for 3rd. Make the ticket reward bound to completion of at least 5 daily wvw activities per week.

Idea #4. Shorter and Regular Seasons
Goal: High rewads, less burnout.

Make the seasons run 5 weeks. No breaks between seasons.

There was a huge amount of downtime between seasons and WvW really died down during that time. The seasons have brought out the best and the worst in players. The 2v1’s are truly nasty with some serious venom coming out on the forums, that is creating a seriously toxic environment. With the shorter seasons and constant restarting of seasons, it enables a lot of changes to occur and prevents players from becoming too attached to the success or failure of a season. Season 1 ended with the implosion of SoR due to early season failures and many people abandoned hope knowing they could not recover to take 1st no matter how hard they played over the next 4-5 weeks. The same situation is starting to present itself but even worse with a 9 week season. This presents a dangerous situation for the current 2v1’s in both NA and EU. The toxic environment brewing in WvW is not healthy for the worlds or game as a whole.

Once again most of these are not my ideas, I can’t take credit, but I think they are worth talking about, and getting the Dev’s to talk internally about. (and posting here to mention that they showed other dev’s the post)

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Posted by: Loosmaster.8263

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They won’t fix minor problems, you really think they’ll do a massive change?


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Posted by: Twinny.9304

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I really like the sounds of this. It still keeps the server identity (for the player base) whilst also introducing the color scheme a little (because the game mode needs it), it’s like meeting half way and i do think it will improve WvW greatly and making matchups seem tigher/closer/more nail biting experience all through the week not just the weekend.

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Posted by: Latinkuro.9420

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Ideas 3 and 4 are great ideas however,
Ideas 1 and 2 sound like a pile of decomposing manure.

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Posted by: The Lethe.2953

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Thanks for the positive comments and opinions. I have noticed that the thread has been renamed

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Posted by: BAITness.1083

BAITness.1083

Credit where it is due – when I was talking about the idea in #1, it was actually Akk Adian’s idea. I do like how it takes care of multiple problems at once, though.

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Posted by: Johje Holan.4607

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1. Not sure if this would actually result in any change in the spread of the score. Its still not necessarily going to be close. But with the idea of shorter seasons it could be tested for a season.

2. You would have to make the dominant/winning servers assets be worth more points. Otherwise it would just encourage #3 to attack #2 and thus letting #1 run away with the match even easier.

3. Good idea – except it should be 3 tickets for 1st place and zero for 2nd and 3rd. This would encourage fighting for 1st place and not like it is now where the bottom two just fight for second or worse.

4. + 1000. And they could use the different seasons for testing grounds for various changes – scoring, matchmaking, etc.

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Posted by: Andrew Clear.1750

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You do realize, that most players are conservative when it comes to their games, and they hate drastic changes.

Sure, forum people are more liberal, and complain, and want changes, and some of them will complain about the changes, etc, etc. Some will love changes.

Anet will not make major changes often, because they know players will leave.

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Posted by: Teknical.9746

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Massive changes? WvWvW is so 2012, how about WvWvWvWvW?

Think about the amazing SMC lagfest!

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Posted by: Dee Jay.2460

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WvW has been evolving at a snail’s pace. I really wouldn’t hold my breath for significant updates anytime soon.

It’s a shame because WvW is by far the best thing GW2 has going for it.

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Posted by: VaticanIscariot.1732

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  1. wouldn’t really need much change, other than an interface change and being able to see the scores of all the servers and servers on your team.
  1. can also help Arenanet get mad money from transfers because you want your team to win. Being on a server with 300 man queues is not helping your team, so you and your guild would transfer down to make sure the lower tier servers have the coverage and numbers to win.

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Posted by: GreenAlien.5623

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2. is pointless.. WvW guilds on the winning server would just keep the point difference under 15k..

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Wei-wei, a 15-year old circus ringmaster of a falling troupe in China, is left behind an insurmountable debt when her grandfather dies in the Great Sichuan Earthquake. The only family/friend she can depend on is a forty-five year old “baseball playing gorilla” named Ling-ling. When a loan shark threatens to sell Ling-ling and the circus kids to cover the debt, Wei-wei has no choice but to allow Ling-ling to be scouted by the materialistic sports agent Sung Chung-su to play in the Korean Baseball League. Despite the skeptical of the professional baseball society, Sung Chung-su successfully signs Ling-ling with a professional team with his calculated plan and sweet talks. Ling-ling, now dubbed “Mr. Go,” hits consecutive home runs and brings victories to his team Doosan. His popularity grows so immensely that even the fans of his opposing teams cheer for him. Mr.Go’s successful home-run parade continues, but Wei-wei and Sung, stunned and blinded by the sudden success, neglect to detect …

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Posted by: Loosmaster.8263

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Nice katniss…right on target. +5


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Posted by: mallas.9836

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Massive changes? WvWvW is so 2012, how about WvWvWvWvW?

Think about the amazing SMC lagfest!

my computer just burst into flames in protest

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Posted by: mallas.9836

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WvW has been evolving at a snail’s pace. I really wouldn’t hold my breath for significant updates anytime soon.

It’s a shame because WvW is by far the best thing GW2 has going for it.

the only thing.

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Posted by: Teknical.9746

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Wei-wei, a 15-year old circus ringmaster of a falling troupe in China, is left behind an insurmountable debt when her grandfather dies in the Great Sichuan Earthquake. The only family/friend she can depend on is a forty-five year old “baseball playing gorilla” named Ling-ling. When a loan shark threatens to sell Ling-ling and the circus kids to cover the debt, Wei-wei has no choice but to allow Ling-ling to be scouted by the materialistic sports agent Sung Chung-su to play in the Korean Baseball League. Despite the skeptical of the professional baseball society, Sung Chung-su successfully signs Ling-ling with a professional team with his calculated plan and sweet talks. Ling-ling, now dubbed “Mr. Go,” hits consecutive home runs and brings victories to his team Doosan. His popularity grows so immensely that even the fans of his opposing teams cheer for him. Mr.Go’s successful home-run parade continues, but Wei-wei and Sung, stunned and blinded by the sudden success, neglect to detect …

So beautiful. ;(

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Posted by: Teknical.9746

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Massive changes? WvWvW is so 2012, how about WvWvWvWvW?

Think about the amazing SMC lagfest!

my computer just burst into flames in protest

Hah! That’s easy, just go here!

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