Guild Wars 2

Imbalance, it is killing WvW and player morale. You eventually fall into two camps: You’re on the winning side dominating everything, and eventually you do dominate everything, and at that point there is zero challenge because you’ve taken everything and there is nothing to do except catch roamers and defend from the occasional insurgence; or you’re getting dominated, eventually get completely dominated, and can’t retaliate in enough force to counter the oppositions force. I think we can all agree that when we do have three worlds competing, constantly taking land and losing land, that this is the most fun and also the most appropriate for WvW. I know I am not alone with this, and I also know there are those that would argue on the other side of the fence. I’d like to initiate some discussion on this since I have personally seen it yet on this board.

epborden.7492:

Imbalance, it is killing WvW and player morale. You eventually fall into two camps: You’re on the winning side dominating everything, and eventually you do dominate everything, and at that point there is zero challenge because you’ve taken everything and there is nothing to do except catch roamers and defend from the occasional insurgence; or you’re getting dominated, eventually get completely dominated, and can’t retaliate in enough force to counter the oppositions force. I think we can all agree that when we do have three worlds competing, constantly taking land and losing land, that this is the most fun and also the most appropriate for WvW. I know I am not alone with this, and I also know there are those that would argue on the other side of the fence. I’d like to initiate some discussion on this since I have personally seen it yet on this board.

Look harder.

Most of the matches are balanced in North American (too lazy to check Europe) this week to a reasonable extent. They’ll put in guesting as soon as they can and probably put a fee on transfers then. I don’t actually lose sleep over it.

Been thinking about that and ideas that could possibly help. Consider this one. When the scores get too lopsided due to server imbalances such as it is currently with GoM, HoD and Kaineng all structures, camps and NPCs on the outnumbered servers get buffed by a given percentage. For example on Friday after reset Kain quickly painted the maps blue and essentially had an insurmountable lead on the first day. Current score, 4 days in, has Kaineng over 200K points ahead. So lets us just say a 50K lead would buff the items mentioned above by 10%, 100K by 20% and so on. It would at least give a fighting chance to those trying to defend against 3 or 4:1 odds.

Just an idea.

styx.7294:

Most of the matches are balanced in North American (too lazy to check Europe) this week to a reasonable extent. They’ll put in guesting as soon as they can and probably put a fee on transfers then. I don’t actually lose sleep over it.

Half of the matches are blow outs right now o.O
Tier 1
Tier 2
Tier 6
Tier 7

The only matches that you can say are truly balanced are Tier 3 and 5

LieutenantGoogle.7326:

styx.7294:

Most of the matches are balanced in North American (too lazy to check Europe) this week to a reasonable extent. They’ll put in guesting as soon as they can and probably put a fee on transfers then. I don’t actually lose sleep over it.

Half of the matches are blow outs right now o.O
Tier 1
Tier 2
Tier 6
Tier 7

Being in tier 7 colours my perception. Tiers 1, 2, and 6 look really close to me.

styx.7294:

LieutenantGoogle.7326:

styx.7294:

Most of the matches are balanced in North American (too lazy to check Europe) this week to a reasonable extent. They’ll put in guesting as soon as they can and probably put a fee on transfers then. I don’t actually lose sleep over it.

Half of the matches are blow outs right now o.O
Tier 1
Tier 2
Tier 6
Tier 7

Being in tier 7 colours my perception. Tiers 1, 2, and 6 look really close to me.

T2, SoR has been against BG on the regular. BG is on its way out, we know it, and we’ve foughtthem for 8 weeks now. We kinda want them out of the tier for some fresh blood. Things have been closer, but TC has proven to be a good opponent so they’ve put more pressure on SoR than we’re used to.

WvW in its very nature is balanced and unbalanced. If you are not having a good time and want a more balanced matchup xfer servers. if your server does not have the numbers to compete and you want to be a competitor …. move. we don’t need more buffs or breakout event gimmicks, let us have solid pvp let it balance itself.

LieutenantGoogle.7326:

styx.7294:

Most of the matches are balanced in North American (too lazy to check Europe) this week to a reasonable extent. They’ll put in guesting as soon as they can and probably put a fee on transfers then. I don’t actually lose sleep over it.

Half of the matches are blow outs right now o.O
Tier 1
Tier 2
Tier 6
Tier 7

The only matches that you can say are truly balanced are Tier 3 and 5

Huge score differences usually reflect coverage issues more so than anything else. In my current matchup, we are generally ahead in points during NA prime time, however one of the other servers has a huge oceanic presence. Basically they get 500+ uncontested ppt outside of NA hours because there is nobody around to stop them.

WvW (even Tier 1) is suffering from player attrition right now.

When the game came out (and for the months after) all WvW maps use to be slammed full 24/7. I remember waiting 2 1/2 hours just to get in.

Now it is instant except for EB on prime time. It’s not uncommon for 1 map to have no coverage from your own server.

The imbalance in wvw stems from (or at least one of the reasons why) in the fact that its of greater benefit to zerg yourself silly than to work in smaller groups. In a zeg, your less likely to die in a fight (less your zerg is completely useless) which results in lower cost to repair bills. If everybody comes prepared with supplies and blueprints bringing down a tower or keep is easier. Many people karma/badge hunt like theres no tomorrow.
We also have to deal with the selfish, self indulgent tendencies inherent to many (not all) gamers. The whole me vs we concept. I want to have the best gear, the most kills, be apart of the most bad kitten server. I want, I need gimme gimme! WvW gives people like that an EASY outlet for their fragile ego to be petted. Tis life.

There have been multiple threads like this and I dont see them as productive. Everyone throws in their two cents and says arena net is lazy or something. Lets all just look forward to their major WvW patches coming in a month or so and give them even another couple weeks to tweak anything they couldn’t predict from those patches. Then lets start this up again if needed.