Guild Wars 2

I expect we will see huge queues of pugs trying to get into wvw to complete the achievement panel, ignoring commanders, wondering around in their zerk pve builds, as well as a full compliment of gankers and griefers trying to stop people doing the JP’s.

Wonderful way to start the league- 60 people in JP trying to out-grief each other whilst guilds fail to get anyone on the borderlands due to caps.

Wonder how long the queue will be on Saturday night- probably longer than most people stay ingame.

It ll be a kittening mess.

That’s why im playing it. At least maybe we ll have some fun.

Warning to all commanders.

Do not pull your own hair out!

I expect the first week to be the most entertaining and funny one. There will be loads of different builds, tactics and weird battles. Hope this will be a refreshing experience to the very static WvW of late. It also will be interesting to see commanders being able to organize the chaos and commanders failing if they dont have their beloved organized groups around them. I see rage, a lot of rage. Really looking forward to the reset.

Mf banners? check
Mf food? Check
Empty inventory? Check
Oli’s? Check

This is going to be a farmfest for some servers.

Probably the best part of the leagues is the fact that so people are going to want to get involved in WvW to net those achievements and qualify for their season reward. The first couple of weeks are going to be hectic and all kinds of silly entertaining. Can’t wait.

@ Merlin Yup lot’s of people gonna be running champ trains waiting for queue pop.

@XKUNR Wonder if we will see the reemerge of the dreaded tug of war between lake and briar tower like in the good old days.

Victory.2879:

I expect we will see huge queues of pugs trying to get into wvw to complete the achievement panel, ignoring commanders, wondering around in their zerk pve builds, as well as a full compliment of gankers and griefers trying to stop people doing the JP’s.

Wonderful way to start the league- 60 people in JP trying to out-grief each other whilst guilds fail to get anyone on the borderlands due to caps.

Wonder how long the queue will be on Saturday night- probably longer than most people stay ingame.

sounds like fun to me

Woohoo fresh meat for the grinder.

Well, I’m a pug. I’m not in a guild.
And I wear full zerker gear.

And I don’t follow orders from anyone (unless it suits me).

I’m quite looking forward to it.

I am wearing full berserker (i am guardian) as a commander. Dont see any issues with berserker

Malediktus.9250:

I am wearing full berserker (i am guardian) as a commander. Dont see any issues with berserker

I think by “full zerker builds” He meant glassy builds designed for speed clearing dungeons.

You can be full zerker and not be glassy.

K U T M.4539:

Malediktus.9250:

I am wearing full berserker (i am guardian) as a commander. Dont see any issues with berserker

I think by “full zerker builds” He meant glassy builds designed for speed clearing dungeons.

You can be full zerker and not be glassy.

Eh? How? I’m built for maximum damage at the expense of protection. Every item of gear is Power, Precision, Crit up to the hilt. If I could get more I would.
The only toughness, healing and vitality come as a side-effect of the traits I need (for doing max damage) and the runes I need for movement speed (as a mesmer).

I’m glassy as all hades. Just try to hit me though.

Contiguous.1345:

K U T M.4539:

Malediktus.9250:

I am wearing full berserker (i am guardian) as a commander. Dont see any issues with berserker

I think by “full zerker builds” He meant glassy builds designed for speed clearing dungeons.

You can be full zerker and not be glassy.

Eh? How? I’m built for maximum damage at the expense of protection. Every item of gear is Power, Precision, Crit up to the hilt. If I could get more I would.
The only toughness, healing and vitality come as a side-effect of the traits I need (for doing max damage) and the runes I need for movement speed (as a mesmer).

I’m glassy as all hades. Just try to hit me though.

You’re a mesmer. Automatically harder to kill than other classes as long as you have any idea at all how to play your class.

I think I should come up with a 3-person havoc squad and farm people at JP’s

Since stomping gives points now (with at least 1 buff), we can contribute

Well, poor guys who only take their first steps into wvw will have rather harsh welcome if any of the dedicated wvw crowd gets through the ques

Guilds will be like, don’t bomb to hard! We all want to tag em and they die so freaking fast.

Victory.2879:

I expect we will see huge queues of pugs trying to get into wvw to complete the achievement panel, ignoring commanders, wondering around in their zerk pve builds, as well as a full compliment of gankers and griefers trying to stop people doing the JP’s.

I find the whole zerker build insults to be really funny. While I appreciate the value of a defensive build in an environment where your skills are lagged and thus unreliable, outside of that situation they are nothing but a crutch for people incapable of proper positioning, incapable of creating an appropriate build, and entirely incapable of group synergy.

Use the gear that best fits your role in a group to maximize your effectiveness while making sure you can live through a fight. That might be PVT, it might be zerker, it might be something in between or entirely different. Do not listen to the sheep.

Niim.9260:

I find the whole zerker build insults to be really funny. While I appreciate the value of a defensive build in an environment where your skills are lagged and thus unreliable, outside of that situation they are nothing but a crutch for people incapable of proper positioning, incapable of creating an appropriate build, and entirely incapable of group synergy.

Use the gear that best fits your role in a group to maximize your effectiveness while making sure you can live through a fight. That might be PVT, it might be zerker, it might be something in between or entirely different. Do not listen to the sheep.

Thing is that very rarely is there a situation where a good opponent doesn´t punish you going too squishy.

Niim.9260:

Victory.2879:

I expect we will see huge queues of pugs trying to get into wvw to complete the achievement panel, ignoring commanders, wondering around in their zerk pve builds, as well as a full compliment of gankers and griefers trying to stop people doing the JP’s.

I find the whole zerker build insults to be really funny. While I appreciate the value of a defensive build in an environment where your skills are lagged and thus unreliable, outside of that situation they are nothing but a crutch for people incapable of proper positioning, incapable of creating an appropriate build, and entirely incapable of group synergy.

Use the gear that best fits your role in a group to maximize your effectiveness while making sure you can live through a fight. That might be PVT, it might be zerker, it might be something in between or entirely different. Do not listen to the sheep.

You defined the main issue within your answer ‘best fits your role in a group’. the problem I was highlighting is that the majority of casual pve’rs outside of dungeons who just zerg train champ farm, etc don’t bring any group utilities to the fight.

If you play in t1 with the ‘pug’ groups there then play down a few tiers in the ‘pug’ groups there, you very quickly realise that all those group buffs/heals/condition removals/wells/water fields/blast fnishers etc that you took for granted people would bring in t1 aren’t brought along by the more casual pve’rs, who generally bring nothing to the party except their glassy ’what’s positioning?’ builds and will be fodder for the rest of us.

I am not going to enjoy the queues- I am going to enjoy the resultant farming (now if only wvw drops were half as good as pve…).

Strang.8170:

Niim.9260:

I find the whole zerker build insults to be really funny. While I appreciate the value of a defensive build in an environment where your skills are lagged and thus unreliable, outside of that situation they are nothing but a crutch for people incapable of proper positioning, incapable of creating an appropriate build, and entirely incapable of group synergy.

Use the gear that best fits your role in a group to maximize your effectiveness while making sure you can live through a fight. That might be PVT, it might be zerker, it might be something in between or entirely different. Do not listen to the sheep.

Thing is that very rarely is there a situation where a good opponent doesn´t punish you going too squishy.

Yup, everytime I notice someone I am fighting is squishy, I am already excited about the bag that soon will follow.
+ the rally system forces you to go tanky, each man dead can mean 15 man back up. The one that wins the fight is the one that doesn’t go down. Your group is only as strong as your weakest player.

So yes, I continue to laught at zerker builds. Definitely in keep fights or with choke points. They do work in GvG, but they are getting countered hard by thiefs running around.

Simonoly.4352:

Probably the best part of the leagues is the fact that so people are going to want to get involved in WvW to net those achievements and qualify for their season reward. The first couple of weeks are going to be hectic and all kinds of silly entertaining. Can’t wait.

And, to bring this thread back on topic, the first few weeks will have more people in WvW, but after that, it will be a return to the norm.

Too bad these achievements are so easy to get. It is a slap in the face for dedicated WvW players. Some living story achievements can take some serious time and effort to accomplish within two weeks. These, for seven weeks, are a joke.

Time to put a movie on and follow the zerg around doing just enough to get credit. Don’t want to do too much though, that will interfere with the popcorn eating.

Needed to have that overflow map added alongside the new season to at least have something there.

You’re complaining about something that is aimed to revitalize WvW in servers that aren’t t1 or t2? This is supposed to be a good thing and give rewards to WvW to make it more appealing to people who want to have some rewards for playing.

And I’m sorry, zerging isn’t “skillful.” Having someone shout over the mic simple commands isn’t skillful. Spamming skills hoping to get some tags isn’t skillful. Following a blue dorito for 2 hours isn’t skillful. Hoping you have the biggest zerg in your zerg vs. zerg battles isn’t skillful. Of course there are people who do the 10 people zerg destroying group, I have yet to encounter a guild that can actually destroy a zerg. I don’t care inb4 a link to some lame video.

Bronze league EU on Drakkar Lake:

queue time tonight: 1+h (still waiting)
queue time before: 0

same game as before, but achievements. bravo!

Achievements need 10 invader kills in a season of 7 weeks. This is clearly meant for the PVE’rs to ‘get it over with for easy APs’. Good news is, we will have long ques only on the first day of the season.

Seigfried.5938:

Achievements need 10 invader kills in a season of 7 weeks. This is clearly meant for the PVE’rs to ‘get it over with for easy APs’. Good news is, we will have long ques only on the first day of the season.

That is just the prerequisite for advanced which is 450 invader kills.

Contiguous.1345:

Well, I’m a pug. I’m not in a guild.
And I wear full zerker gear.

And I don’t follow orders from anyone (unless it suits me).

I’m quite looking forward to it.

I’ve been doing WvWvW for a year now. I like it. And I do the same exact thing when it comes to commanders.

We could have done with that new overflow WvW map for the start of Season 1. 1 hour wait for Desolation so far.And that is trying to get into Abaddon BL.

Victory.2879:

I expect we will see huge queues of pugs trying to get into wvw to complete the achievement panel, ignoring commanders, wondering around in their zerk pve builds, as well as a full compliment of gankers and griefers trying to stop people doing the JP’s.

Wonderful way to start the league- 60 people in JP trying to out-grief each other whilst guilds fail to get anyone on the borderlands due to caps.

Wonder how long the queue will be on Saturday night- probably longer than most people stay ingame.

Well I think there’s still time to move to a smaller server if you don’t want to deal with the wait queues…
(I know my server needs more recruits)

go to Vabbi, still not many people in WvW

Strang.8170:

Niim.9260:

I find the whole zerker build insults to be really funny. While I appreciate the value of a defensive build in an environment where your skills are lagged and thus unreliable, outside of that situation they are nothing but a crutch for people incapable of proper positioning, incapable of creating an appropriate build, and entirely incapable of group synergy.

Use the gear that best fits your role in a group to maximize your effectiveness while making sure you can live through a fight. That might be PVT, it might be zerker, it might be something in between or entirely different. Do not listen to the sheep.

Thing is that very rarely is there a situation where a good opponent doesn´t punish you going too squishy.

Welcome to crutchville.

Pugfest?

More like farmfest

Niim.9260:

Strang.8170:

Niim.9260:

I find the whole zerker build insults to be really funny. While I appreciate the value of a defensive build in an environment where your skills are lagged and thus unreliable, outside of that situation they are nothing but a crutch for people incapable of proper positioning, incapable of creating an appropriate build, and entirely incapable of group synergy.

Use the gear that best fits your role in a group to maximize your effectiveness while making sure you can live through a fight. That might be PVT, it might be zerker, it might be something in between or entirely different. Do not listen to the sheep.

Thing is that very rarely is there a situation where a good opponent doesn´t punish you going too squishy.

Welcome to crutchville.

Whatever suits you aguess.
Positioning can get you only to a point, and when opponents are good and they see you´re squishy, they will push you beyond that point.

Zikory.6871:

Seigfried.5938:

Achievements need 10 invader kills in a season of 7 weeks. This is clearly meant for the PVE’rs to ‘get it over with for easy APs’. Good news is, we will have long ques only on the first day of the season.

That is just the prerequisite for advanced which is 450 invader kills.

And 450 is very large right? For a whole season we should have to kill at least 10k.

Seigfried.5938:

Zikory.6871:

Seigfried.5938:

Achievements need 10 invader kills in a season of 7 weeks. This is clearly meant for the PVE’rs to ‘get it over with for easy APs’. Good news is, we will have long ques only on the first day of the season.

That is just the prerequisite for advanced which is 450 invader kills.

And 450 is very large right? For a whole season we should have to kill at least 10k.

Depends on how you look at it. For me a avid WvW player 450 is a joke but that could be harder for someone that has spent little to no time in WvW.

Zikory.6871:

Seigfried.5938:

Zikory.6871:

Seigfried.5938:

Achievements need 10 invader kills in a season of 7 weeks. This is clearly meant for the PVE’rs to ‘get it over with for easy APs’. Good news is, we will have long ques only on the first day of the season.

That is just the prerequisite for advanced which is 450 invader kills.

And 450 is very large right? For a whole season we should have to kill at least 10k.

Depends on how you look at it. For me a avid WvW player 450 is a joke but that could be harder for someone that has spent little to no time in WvW.

That is exactly what I am saying. Anet has got the level for everyone down to satisfy the PVE’rs.

Seigfried.5938:

Zikory.6871:

Seigfried.5938:

Zikory.6871:

Seigfried.5938:

Achievements need 10 invader kills in a season of 7 weeks. This is clearly meant for the PVE’rs to ‘get it over with for easy APs’. Good news is, we will have long ques only on the first day of the season.

That is just the prerequisite for advanced which is 450 invader kills.

And 450 is very large right? For a whole season we should have to kill at least 10k.

Depends on how you look at it. For me a avid WvW player 450 is a joke but that could be harder for someone that has spent little to no time in WvW.

That is exactly what I am saying. Anet has got the level for everyone down to satisfy the PVE’rs.

You guys are forgetting zerg vs roamer. It is way easier to get 450 in a zerg than as a roamer.

style.6173:

Seigfried.5938:

Zikory.6871:

Seigfried.5938:

Zikory.6871:

Seigfried.5938:

Achievements need 10 invader kills in a season of 7 weeks. This is clearly meant for the PVE’rs to ‘get it over with for easy APs’. Good news is, we will have long ques only on the first day of the season.

That is just the prerequisite for advanced which is 450 invader kills.

And 450 is very large right? For a whole season we should have to kill at least 10k.

Depends on how you look at it. For me a avid WvW player 450 is a joke but that could be harder for someone that has spent little to no time in WvW.

That is exactly what I am saying. Anet has got the level for everyone down to satisfy the PVE’rs.

You guys are forgetting zerg vs roamer. It is way easier to get 450 in a zerg than as a roamer.

This pretty much. I really don’t enjoy zerging. I adore roaming and 1v1s, even 1v3s. Also consider, anything more than 450 will mean clogged maps for weeks. You’ll see what I mean right about nowww…..

Well as predicted, long queues, lots of people wondering about (ok, it’s gandara, they are always wondering about). Finally got in to Gandara BL having queued for all of them for a long time, and EB finally popped up after 1am.

AM’s border hopping (how do they manage that at the moment is beyond me) mega zerg came and took some stuff then hopped off to another map.

Some fun small scale fights against the usual contingent of Deso roaming thiefs when i took my shiny new spirit ranger out for a wonder- if only I could run just a little bit faster to catch up when you run away to find some friends!

Then some fun in EB on the engineer.

Sadly without decent night coverage we might be coming third in the gandara match up as our pve lot are out in force at prime time and the rest of the time it’s deserted.