Guild Wars 2

The inner water gate at Garri stay as “normal” gate even if the keep is T3.
This was always like this, maybe because the water gate is hard to attack if they are defender I don’t know.
But now that we have fortified gate, can we have at least that this gate go to reinforced gate ? Or should we stay with normal gate even on T3 ?

Is it just inner wg that is not upgraded? If so than it sounds like a bug.

Was meant to be this and should probably stay this.
That gate is a death trap if the defenders have any siege at all.

it was always like this. Inner WG was never upgrade, even before HoT.
As the dev just bring back ABL without any major change I understand that this gate upgrade have not changed.
But I don’t know if this was always a “bug” or if it was “work as expected”.
Just as now we have 2 upgrade for gate, maybe this gate be upgraded too.. At least 1 time.

tough inner gate from garri never upgraded lol…. cause i dont remember to see it upgraded even on a t3 garri, reason most blobs use wg???

Hmm, report this as a bug. And apply hardened gates if you can, that should help add some defense for it.

Tbh this spot is easy to defend IF you have at least 3/5 players inside using immediatly siege. Then it’s probably wanted by the dev.

It’s intended. Each keep has the risky spot to attack that will let you get in faster and they have safer areas to attack that take longer and require you to use more siege. Water gate is a kill box if there is anyone defending.

I will check this out when I can login, I don’t think I have ever noticed it. I will report it if it is not properly upgraded because it should be like the rest, I cant imagine it was designed this way intentionally.

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I will check this out when I can login, I don’t think I have ever noticed it. I will report it if it is not properly upgraded because it should be like the rest, I cant imagine it was designed this way intentionally.

Of course it was. What would be the incentive to attack through water gate otherwise? Even if you make it through outer without getting shredded by cannons and ac’s you are stuck on a small ledge where more ac’s and treb fire will destroy you, or you can try to make the jump to get around to the north side, and likely lose a ton of people who can’t jump because they are chilled /crippled/in combat.

Water gate is the “I hope we can get in before they notice” gate.

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Hmm, report this as a bug. And apply hardened gates if you can, that should help add some defense for it.

The other team but hardened gates on their garri yesterday. We rushed wg and hardened gates was on the outer gate but not the inner. I don’t know if that is intended or not though.

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Hmm, report this as a bug. And apply hardened gates if you can, that should help add some defense for it.

The other team but hardened gates on their garri yesterday. We rushed wg and hardened gates was on the outer gate but not the inner. I don’t know if that is intended or not though.

That def sounds like a bug in my opinion.

Not a big deal, we got Alpine now and its so good, kappa

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Not a big deal, we got Alpine now and its so good, kappa

Yea because dbl was so perfect and never required any fixes?

I think it’s intended. That choke point up those stairs is insane to try push through, even if you have a bunch of omega golems to tank enemy zerg bombs. All you need is a good scout and a sizable group that’s willing to come defend.

It has been this way since launch.

Though i believe i recall it was initially a bug (being one for so long it became a running joke), I dont know if they decided to not fix it out of laziness or because they figured it was balanced anyway. – pretty sure its the fomer.

To me, it sounds like a bug, but at the same time, definitely something I think “could” be left alone lol.

On the one hand, if provides an easier access point as far as how much time is needed to break all the way in.
However, at the risk of pushing into a very bad spot (Shower scene in “The Rock” anyone?)

I just checked it out, and it is different from the other gates, very strange. It seems it could be either a bug or intended because of the design around the gate. Maybe we can get a response to clarify it.

This is NOT a bug. Watergate is the most suicidal gate to attack, its a tight space and you can put untouchable ac’s to hit it. If watergate inner was fortified then it would rarely ever be attacked. Its actually more viable to attack South East gate then it is to try watergate.
The gate looks different for a reason.

It is intended. Same as water gate on green keep on EBG, always paper because if you get caught there, usually you’re dead.

Inner water gate garrison has been that way from day one, whether it was intentional or not who knows, I don’t think I have ever heard a dev speak about it. The other two keeps do not have any weak inner gates.

Green keep water gates on ebg also do not upgrade, and also do not get affected with the fortified gates buff so you can keep tapping them to contest the waypoint. Whether that’s intentional or not I also do not know, but maybe it’s something to bring to the current devs attention to see what they think.

This gate was allways like this, However as was allready stated. It is by far the easiest to defend, given you have scouts and Siege.
The inner wall cannons can defend the outer gate, only way to remove them properly is a ballista covered by a shield generator ( that is ofc if the cannons are manned, no scouts? Weeeel toughtough luck)
past the outer gate Siege is often enough to repell up to 30 guys, if you have a zerg that defends this gate becomes a death trap. Similar to the SW gate the attackers are stacked in a chocke point often unable to counter Siege with out shield gens and even then in case the defenders charge outside look arround, there is little place to evade to. When attacking this inner gate and i hear incomming i instantly cast battle standard XD pugs gonna drop in droves.
The only time the weak WG becomes a problem is if you do not have people scouting and knowing how to defend the gate. This is often a coverage Problem though. Remember many just try to rush this gate and do not bother with shield gens or ballistae and just try to ram or golem rush.
In this case: go to the Cannon, \wave, \shrug, press f, press 4, 1, 2, 3, aim down, click.