I loved this game, but after WvW got crapped on repeatedly with (A) no ascended gear for ages, (B) some ascended gear still couldn’t be bought with badges – i.e. force carebearism (if its a word) down peoples throat, © repition without any real sense of accomplishment for winning or losing.
I don’t mean to complain, but coming back and seeing all the forum negativity, I’m wondering if the game is starting to die WvW wise?
Maybe somebody can provide a bunch of new things that have happened, but its GW2 has been uninstalled for a few months and don’t plan on installing unless there is something really astounding.
I would say that WvW is losing players, but only as a game naturally would after being released for over a year. Don’t judge the general attitude towards anything in this game by forum posts, they are definitely not representative of the community as a whole.
That ain’t true, I know many guilds that have quit because of the fail patches WvW keeps seeing.
I’ll tell you what happened. GW2 started out with a great combat mechanism, they knew that and wanted to do something with it. So tPvP came to life to make it an eSport. But they failed to implement basic things and the professional gamers left. Not wanting to waist their time on something that would never happen.
While this was happening in tPvP, people in WvW were quickly picking to how amazing the combat mechanism was in bigger group play and fights. There was experimentating with tons of builds and combinations and GvGs became a fact. People doing this were not ‘just’ players. They were the hardcore kind, playing 15+ hours a day.
But Anet was bittered about their failed tPvP, they saw high incomes dissapear that would have come from their sponsors. They now realize this game will never be an eSport. So they have thrown their tactics around with a 180°. They are focussing on the casuals now.
WvW on the other hand was quickly turning too hardcore, GvGs popping up everywhere, guild groups trained together causing havoc everywhere, rolling blobs. Nothing casuals would like. And face it, WvW is 1 of the only end content things they have. So they had to adjust it to fit their casuals more. How do you do this? By buffing the stronger server with stats, in other words making it easier for the zerg/casuals to win.
So this is what you are seeing now, the numbing down of WvW. Taking out skill and the strenght of smaller guild groups holding entire borderlands on their own. Buffing the zerg. This is called, favouring the newb. It is a something you see happening to many games and it is something that causes players like me who go for fair fights and play on skill a lot of pain.
Many will quit after this patch hits, but the voids left behind by these skilled players will get filled up by casuals. Just like how Anet wants it to be.
The Problem is that Arenanet does not understand their own players. For them wvw should be a casual zergfest. They simply ignore everything that´s around organized combat. Their idea of wvw is a lot of people running brain afk after a guy with a blue sign above his head running from siege to siege. In case you did not see it already, i recommend this video from Sacrx https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7MN2j-CRdc . He pretty much sums up the mess wvw is in at the present state.
It is doomed, but only if you read the forums. Everyone else is in que.
It is doomed, but only if you read the forums. Everyone else is in que.
A shorter queue than normal that is.
It is doomed, but only if you read the forums. Everyone else is in que.
A shorter queue than normal that is.
And that queue is because there is a GvG on the map.
It will be interesting to see what happens to BL queues if Bloodlust has the predicted negative impact on GvG’s.
Lol, some of you have a very rosy outlook. Everyone knows MMOs lose players over time, and that loss is especially evident in WvW. It’s not doomed, but I do predict the bottom 6-9 servers of each region will eventually be ghost towns in terms of WvW. By some people’s standards, they already are.
Hopefully they can add actual meaningful content, like new skills and weapon sets instead of living story crap. That would actually encourage people to play.
It is doomed, but only if you read the forums. Everyone else is in que.
What queue?
It is doomed, but only if you read the forums. Everyone else is in que.
What queue?
he must be in a T1 server where they only care about PPT.
For Anet, WvW is simply supposed to be training wheels for PvE’ers as they move towards sPvP (esport!). The actually don’t really care at all about WvW as a game mode in and of itself, and it shows in their actions.
It’s just too bad because the open world PvP that is WvW is the perfect environment for the “play how you want” mantra — just look at the diversity of play styles that people discuss in these forums (zerging, sieging, GvG, roaming, soloing, duels…). There’s something for anyone who has even the smallest interest in PvP. That’s what makes WvW fun.
But Anet’s tunnel vision regarding sPvP (esports!) is killing the only truly valuable PvP property they have — WvW.
This game is WvW, I dont find PvE to be interesting because of the lack of raid dungeons, exotic drops or anything of that matter without a whole grind of tokens or something along the way. No risk system in place to gamble some items against a Boss ,but if I win and truly beat it I can come out with a major reward. Other than that it is Legendaries and skins. With the new ascended patch I just wish they’d make it less of a hassle then it is to get an ascended weapon, like maybe make them more common as drops from champions or bosses, or trade-able. I know people will disagree with me, but in the end I just find WvW to be my liking and style, I spent 90% of my time there. WvW is the game for me, if it gets destroyed I will have to just move on, its the only thing that keeps me entertained at this point, Im a roamer, a soloer, dueler, I don’t want it to be ruined, its my last resort.
I wish anet balance WvWvW around WvWvW not tpvp.
I wish anet balance WvWvW around WvWvW not tpvp.
yep very much. tpvp and wvw zvz fights are soooo different.in spvp u have no food, no siege, not people mass stacking might/retal/ regen , u dont have mass conditionspam, mass cc, mass condition cleansing, mass aoe form 25-60 people.
1v1 based classes are having a hard time in wvw, but spvp prevents them from getting buffs as they do well in spvp.meanwhile warriors are getting buffed into oblivion as they need it in spvp.this has to change its getting out of hand.
WvW will be fine, assuming you aren’t on one of the bottom 1-3 servers. If you are an avid WvWer on a really low ranked/populated server it is a good time to consider a move, but I wouldn’t jump to the number one or even two. Should be fun to be anywhere between 3 and 8.
People come to the forums to complain, go to the official forums for any game and you’ll leave under the impression that the game is doomed/dying/dead and the developers eat children for breakfast.
WvW is the mode which maintains the largest long term player base and the mode around which the majority of GW2 communities are built.
Should the developers focus on this games strengths to maintain long term success? Yes.
Is GW2 getting updated faster than any MMO in history? Yes.
Don’t let the forums get to you too much, the negativity in these places can be misleading.
People come to the forums to complain, go to the official forums for any game and you’ll leave under the impression that the game is doomed/dying/dead and the developers eat children for breakfast.
WvW is the mode which maintains the largest long term player base and the mode around which the majority of GW2 communities are built.
Should the developers focus on this games strengths to maintain long term success? Yes.
Is GW2 getting updated faster than any MMO in history? Yes.
Don’t let the forums get to you too much, the negativity in these places can be misleading.
It doesn’t have anything to do with forums. Truth is WvW has gotten worse and worse patch after patch. In terms of class balances as bad and delicate as it was we only had steps back off a cliff. In terms of siege we had the ridiculous AC buffs. In terms of rewards we had more and more rewards for map flipping while no incentives whatsoever to roaming / defending. Roaming became more and more pointless because of the ridiculous rewards and the screw up in balancing the classes.
Now you pretty much only see big zergtrains spamming 1 moving from map to map to flip points and many, many times, people don’t even turn around to fight because that would make them miss the big PvD rewards.
And the upcoming patches are scary as hell, with the threat to kill what of the competitive play remains. If there’s nothing left at all.
truth is if the combat system / gamplay is truly awesome and fun the actual mechanics/contents are boring and senseless
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