Guild Wars 2

Should’ve just let BG/JQ tank to t3 then give them a link. create some fluctuations for match variety. now the nerds are gonna congregate and chest thump before they retire. Why does every terd in t1 thinks “stabilizing” a tier is good for wvw?

when jeknar coming to BG? you always welcome

For those interested in facts as opposed to wild accusations to make themselves feel better. BG has had no queue on any BL today which is a normal occurrence outside of reset night.

#stacked

Sarge.9730:

For those interested in facts as opposed to wild accusations to make themselves feel better. BG has had no queue on any BL today which is a normal occurrence outside of reset night.

#stacked

Imagine what the rest of the servers must be like.

it’s the middle of the day on election day of all days, good example bro …

Sarge.9730:

For those interested in facts as opposed to wild accusations to make themselves feel better. BG has had no queue on any BL today which is a normal occurrence outside of reset night.

#stacked

Look at the tick since BG opened. Now tell us it isn’t stacked compared to other servers……

Fact is the playing field for recruitment is level now, getting upset about it wont change anything.

It’s easy to solve. When you have a week were you end up fighting BG just take the week off. Don’t fight them, let them keep every single tower, keep and camp in their color until people start transfering off.

If Anet won’t do something useful take matters into your own hand.

shagwell.1349:

It’s easy to solve. When you have a week were you end up fighting BG just take the week off. Don’t fight them, let them keep every single tower, keep and camp in their color until people start transfering off.

If Anet won’t do something useful take matters into your own hand.

BG has won weeks by more than this and nothing changed…

Sarge.9730:

shagwell.1349:

It’s easy to solve. When you have a week were you end up fighting BG just take the week off. Don’t fight them, let them keep every single tower, keep and camp in their color until people start transfering off.

If Anet won’t do something useful take matters into your own hand.

BG has won weeks by more than this and nothing changed…

Someone get this guy a cookie STAT!

MAG is tanking this week since there are more fights in T2.

xeon.3851:

when jeknar coming to BG? you always welcome

For 1800 gems I can take that offer.

Good troll Anet, Good troll…

Taxidriver.2043:

MAG is tanking this week since there are more fights in T2.

Thats a good joke. BG aside FA puts up more fights than near any server and they have the population to give a queued fight on a map with some to spare on others. Mag is tanking for the same reason Dragonbrand did before them, and Yaks before them

Sarge.9730:

For those interested in facts as opposed to wild accusations to make themselves feel better. BG has had no queue on any BL today which is a normal occurrence outside of reset night.

#stacked

You gotto get dem boys out of retirement. if you’re pop is that dead then perhaps its better you tank like the rest of us. your recruiting pool can’t be as bad as Devona’s Rest, and anet trolled them with a Mag relink lolz.

The level of salt over Anet taking an artificial “closed” cap on joining BG and JQ that NO other server was held to is hilarious. If BG is already at what they considered the population cap they would have lowered it as opposed to lifting the lock.

With no hard facts to go off of (they don’t exist outside of maybe Anet) the forum warriors flood in here and make claims that BG is so stacked the game will never be the same again.

This will be my last post in here but please continue, I enjoy a little light reading before bed and my Vial of Salt could use some replenishment.

I think you are over estimating the saltiness, this kind of move is standard practice for Anet, no one is really surprised that they made a dumb decision. In fact I think more people are surprised they didn’t kitten out earlier.

Lower the map cap.

Sarge go log in to game now. BG is running a karma train, if this is what you find fun then the servers need to go.

Mags and FA if you stopped back capping, let it sit green, the train will be derailed, give it a week or two, the people that actually enjoy WvW will be gone. Anet just destroyed BG and you have yet to realise it.

Princess.7584:

Lower the map cap.

Sarge go log in to game now. BG is running a karma train, if this is what you find fun then the servers need to go.

Mags and FA if you stopped back capping, let it sit green, the train will be derailed, give it a week or two, the people that actually enjoy WvW will be gone. Anet just destroyed BG and you have yet to realise it.

They are their own worst enemy, PvD for dayz!!!

Princess.7584:

Nuzt.7894:

kefro.9312:

Why people got so salty about JQ and BG opening up? Next step is removing server link

I’m not salty at all the question is a legitimate one regardless of how one feels about BG/JQ. Why would they have even bothered making the thread they just made, makes no sense.

None of it makes sense, RIP.

Makes a lot of sense to the contrary.
Thread = Public relation marketing to make it seem that they care or are doing something and that there is really a WvW overhaul in progress.

Opening T1 servers = making cash from transfers, what they are really interested about.

Sarge.9730:

Taxidriver.2043:

MAG is tanking this week since there are more fights in T2.

Thats a good joke. BG aside FA puts up more fights than near any server and they have the population to give a queued fight on a map with some to spare on others. Mag is tanking for the same reason Dragonbrand did before them, and Yaks before them

what would u know consider u just bandwagon to BG like every else?

GOOD JOB ANET FOR RUINING T1 with opening BG LOLOLOL

jamesdolla.3954:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

Arena Net lock Blackgate right now. Just check your logs and see the mass transfers just already started. This was a mistake. I understand that this is automated but still a very bad mistake. BG is at risk of absorbing very large guilds on off peak hours when they already have that coverage. BG equates to World 1: 95% and we all know it.

Right now there is no server to compete against BG and you’ve made it so that BG can receive more numbers. The amount of guilds now deciding to go to BG is anywhere from 6 to 8 guilds..this does not include singular players. This effects coverage largely and goes against what you’re trying to do.

The longer BG stays open, the more imbalance created. The more you’ll have to resort to forcing movement of players.

They already got FOO a sea guild that they didn’t need. I would be cool if they got some more NA guilds but it looks like they just want more off hour pvd and no challenge(BG and the guilds that move there)

They would also have got TGA another SEA guild. Good luck fighting those doors guys.

morrolan.9608:

They would also have got TGA another SEA guild. Good luck fighting those doors guys.

Im sure they wont see any difference. Thats all they been fighting for ages now.

Sarge.9730:

The level of salt over Anet taking an artificial “closed” cap on joining BG and JQ that NO other server was held to is hilarious. If BG is already at what they considered the population cap they would have lowered it as opposed to lifting the lock.

With no hard facts to go off of (they don’t exist outside of maybe Anet) the forum warriors flood in here and make claims that BG is so stacked the game will never be the same again.

This will be my last post in here but please continue, I enjoy a little light reading before bed and my Vial of Salt could use some replenishment.

You’ll be happy to know there’s lots of salt left from the months of tears from BG and JQ crying about opening their servers.

There’s a thing called balance that most players would like to achieve, it isn’t absolutely achievable but it would be nice to keep working on getting closer to it, I know, a wild concept you apparently don’t give two twinkies about.

For the most part we assume BG has been closed due to it being over the population cap, whether it opened this week due to finally getting under that cap or a manual opening, who knows other than anet. Fact of the matter is it’s still the biggest server that has the best chance to win day in and day out, and people will flock to it for the easy win.

Having said all that, the joy of wvw has been dead to me for some time, so whether or not your server gets super stacked again doesn’t bother me, anet proposes smaller worlds and then decides to open all servers, so really at this point who should care about balance anymore?, anet certainly doesn’t.

I already had a sleeping alt on BG for a rainy day. I hope everyone who wants to play on BG jumps, you wanted it open, you wanted more recruitment, I hope you take advantage of it right now, and don’t come back and complain in a months time.

Princess.7584:

morrolan.9608:

They would also have got TGA another SEA guild. Good luck fighting those doors guys.

Im sure they wont see any difference. Thats all they been fighting for ages now.

Yep it’s actually a total waste for them to stack more SEA. The doors are already massively outnumbered. They need to stack NA so that they can grow up to be like BG.

Xenesis.6389:

There’s a thing called balance that most players would like to achieve, it isn’t absolutely achievable but it would be nice to keep working on getting closer to it, I know, a wild concept you apparently don’t give two twinkies about.

The guilds moving don’t want balance. They wouldn’t move to BG if they did.

Another thing that makes this worse, we’re at the beginning of a link cycle so links can’t be used to mitigate against the stacking cause anet refuse to do what must be done under the current system.

We should take the smallest NA server, break down the time zones and then get guild commits for each. We could build it right from the ground up…including coverage and tag rotations.

By the time Anet set it to full it would make BG look like a toy. Transfers would be dirt cheap too.

Reh.5986:

We should take the smallest NA server, break down the time zones and then get guild commits for each. We could build it right from the ground up…including coverage and tag rotations.

By the time Anet set it to full it would make BG look like a toy. Transfers would be dirt cheap too.

Get the Titan Alliance back for the 4 year reunion tour, they conquered wvw in the first 2 weeks with a record of 30-0! But can they repeat it and push Henge of Denravi back to 1st in todays gw2 environment.

Bring back the Titan Alliance, make gw2 wvw great again!
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Titan-Alliance

So Arenanet, given you manually locked JQ and TC quite quickly when 1 guild moved to each of those servers, how quickly are you going to move to lock BG with at least 4 guilds moving to BG now?

morrolan.9608:

So Arenanet, given you manually locked JQ and TC quite quickly when 1 guild moved to each of those servers, how quickly are you going to move to lock BG with at least 4 guilds moving to BG now?

That was done to prevent BG from getting any competition. The Golden child will receive whatever it wishes.

Anyway, moved this account there today, if you cant beat them join them.
(this is a alt account which will be filling the queues being hopeless in greens, and was paid for by ingame gold from AB, see the game is even broken in PvE)

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Blackgate and Jade Quarry both opened because they were below the population cap. Blackgate currently has a smaller population than Jade Quarry and some of the combined linked worlds populations (combined linked worlds population example being Crystal Desert + Darkhaven + Devona’s Rest combined has a higher population than Blackgate). With all that being said, we do keep track of the transfers that happen. Since we have been seeing an increase in transfer behavior with the past 2 world links, we are discussing whether we want to change how we calculate WvW world populations or if we want to lower the WvW population caps.

So because BG has less players than 3 servers combined it’s time to open them up again!?
You’re kittening joking right?

Jim Hunter.6821:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Blackgate and Jade Quarry both opened because they were below the population cap. Blackgate currently has a smaller population than Jade Quarry and some of the combined linked worlds populations (combined linked worlds population example being Crystal Desert + Darkhaven + Devona’s Rest combined has a higher population than Blackgate). With all that being said, we do keep track of the transfers that happen. Since we have been seeing an increase in transfer behavior with the past 2 world links, we are discussing whether we want to change how we calculate WvW world populations or if we want to lower the WvW population caps.

So because BG has less players than 3 servers combined it’s time to open them up again!?
You’re kittening joking right?

Winner winner, chicken dinner!

Hmm…

Anybody else feel that synchronized player hibernation or tanking might be possible & is somehow being coordinated on a massive scale & is being rewarded?

Still waiting for ANet to fix WvW so that it can become a competitive game mode that actually encourages “healthy” competition & not burn-out.

Guess we’re stuck with Let’s do the WvW Limbo Rock in the meantime:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTKj_Vd5_Bk

Oh yeah? Put CD+Dh+DR against BG and let’s see how much more populated that 3-link is… They cannot even win T4 right now. This has to be a joke.

Don’t bother, just leave all servers open.

The number one server population is now below three combined servers, I guess it was time to push the red panic button.

Even though BG is still clubbering the 2nd+1 and 5th+1 servers, while CD the 11th+2 is getting clubber by DB 12th+2.

So did a lot of people transfer out of BG or maybe their population is hibernating again, which do you guys think it is?

EoTM incoming!

this isn’t rocket science….. look at the tick since they opened….

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Blackgate and Jade Quarry both opened because they were below the population cap. Blackgate currently has a smaller population than Jade Quarry and some of the combined linked worlds populations (combined linked worlds population example being Crystal Desert + Darkhaven + Devona’s Rest combined has a higher population than Blackgate). With all that being said, we do keep track of the transfers that happen. Since we have been seeing an increase in transfer behavior with the past 2 world links, we are discussing whether we want to change how we calculate WvW world populations or if we want to lower the WvW population caps.

I definitely think that lowering population caps will help. At the very least it would spread players out more evenly across servers (well that and if you forced some transfers when the caps were lowered), which would already do a lot to help.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Blackgate and Jade Quarry both opened because they were below the population cap. Blackgate currently has a smaller population than Jade Quarry and some of the combined linked worlds populations (combined linked worlds population example being Crystal Desert + Darkhaven + Devona’s Rest combined has a higher population than Blackgate).

How can you say this with a straight face without any qualification about say average play time per player on these servers? Why is BG ranked 1 and JQ ranked 6 with just for example? Not to mention the fact that 2 of the guilds that have moved to BG were from JQ not to mention the fact that many pugs form JQ probably moved as well.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Blackgate and Jade Quarry both opened because they were below the population cap. Blackgate currently has a smaller population than Jade Quarry and some of the combined linked worlds populations (combined linked worlds population example being Crystal Desert + Darkhaven + Devona’s Rest combined has a higher population than Blackgate). With all that being said, we do keep track of the transfers that happen. Since we have been seeing an increase in transfer behavior with the past 2 world links, we are discussing whether we want to change how we calculate WvW world populations or if we want to lower the WvW population caps.

You guys clearly don’t even hop in to WvW to actually have an idea what is going on. Congratulations. Also, way too late now if you are thinking of lowering the caps, once the transfers settle in, you think they would move? The other servers are going to have lower caps and will have little or no chance to contend with the stacked servers anymore. Again, well done with staying out of touch with your own game.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Blackgate and Jade Quarry both opened because they were below the population cap. Blackgate currently has a smaller population than Jade Quarry and some of the combined linked worlds populations (combined linked worlds population example being Crystal Desert + Darkhaven + Devona’s Rest combined has a higher population than Blackgate). With all that being said, we do keep track of the transfers that happen. Since we have been seeing an increase in transfer behavior with the past 2 world links, we are discussing whether we want to change how we calculate WvW world populations or if we want to lower the WvW population caps.

Thx Anet let us know :>

1. Blackgate and Jade Quarry both opened because they were below the population cap

2. Blackgate currently has a smaller population than Jade Quarry

3. You did well for open All Server let player choose their love Server

dont blame Anet and Think why ppl no go Mag (Mag Server already open for 4 years ) or TC (TC server already open for 2months ) *

Tell me WHY ??

i tell you coz Mag do so much PvF

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Blackgate and Jade Quarry both opened because they were below the population cap. Blackgate currently has a smaller population than Jade Quarry and some of the combined linked worlds populations (combined linked worlds population example being Crystal Desert + Darkhaven + Devona’s Rest combined has a higher population than Blackgate). With all that being said, we do keep track of the transfers that happen. Since we have been seeing an increase in transfer behavior with the past 2 world links, we are discussing whether we want to change how we calculate WvW world populations or if we want to lower the WvW population caps.

Thank you, McKenna for the quantitative insights. Cheers. =)

Server hibernates. Gets opened. Gains a bunch of new guilds from servers much worse off. Gets closed. Wakes up. Face rolls everything.

Servers much worse off lose players and coverage.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Blackgate and Jade Quarry both opened because they were below the population cap. Blackgate currently has a smaller population than Jade Quarry and some of the combined linked worlds populations (combined linked worlds population example being Crystal Desert + Darkhaven + Devona’s Rest combined has a higher population than Blackgate). With all that being said, we do keep track of the transfers that happen. Since we have been seeing an increase in transfer behavior with the past 2 world links, we are discussing whether we want to change how we calculate WvW world populations or if we want to lower the WvW population caps.

Does this mean that next week if you manipulate the matchup for T1 and have BG/JQ/CD it will be competitive?

Please do this and then re-evaluate your algorithm.

Not sure how I feel about this back on page 1, but to those just joining….it was sayed:

Chinchilla.1785:

Jim Hunter.6821:

So why even bother with the bullkitten thread about adding more servers to better balance WvW if you’re going to open BG again?

It was probably the massive SEA timezone exodus to WR (or whatever EU server) finally clicked. Not necessarily ANET.

And then…

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Blackgate and Jade Quarry both opened because they were below the population cap. Blackgate currently has a smaller population than Jade Quarry and some of the combined linked worlds populations (combined linked worlds population example being Crystal Desert + Darkhaven + Devona’s Rest combined has a higher population than Blackgate). With all that being said, we do keep track of the transfers that happen. Since we have been seeing an increase in transfer behavior with the past 2 world links, we are discussing whether we want to change how we calculate WvW world populations or if we want to lower the WvW population caps.

Followed by why developers probably don’t wish to spend too much time on forums where everyone and their cousin knows best. Hindsight is x-ray vision after all, right?

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Blackgate and Jade Quarry both opened because they were below the population cap. Blackgate currently has a smaller population than Jade Quarry and some of the combined linked worlds populations (combined linked worlds population example being Crystal Desert + Darkhaven + Devona’s Rest combined has a higher population than Blackgate). With all that being said, we do keep track of the transfers that happen. Since we have been seeing an increase in transfer behavior with the past 2 world links, we are discussing whether we want to change how we calculate WvW world populations or if we want to lower the WvW population caps.

This is so laughably detached from reality. Anet, clearly something is very very wrong with your population calculation models. Please ajust model.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

…we are discussing whether we want to change how we calculate WvW world populations or if we want to lower the WvW population caps.

I don’t get it. The entire server ladder system is destroyed already. Tournaments are now impossible. Just get rid of the server system and make a global system that is adaptable.

Let everyone play together. Create overflow “campaigns” at reset according to the previous week population, let guilds or players choose their campaign and alliance.

No more population problems and server balancing. The guilds will register to a campaign weekly, keeping a priority spot to their previous campaign, and contribute to a global score of their alliance.

When the population drops campaigns are removed. When all campaigns are filled a new one open up. When an alliance has more players randomly chosen guilds are incited to change alliances at the next reset for a 100% magic find weekly increase.

When a guild leader change campaign the entire guild is transferred automatically.

Players can guest on other campaign of their alliance at a penalty of not getting loot.

Then you can create these mega tournaments and everyone will be able to play as they wish.

Xillllix.3485:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

…we are discussing whether we want to change how we calculate WvW world populations or if we want to lower the WvW population caps.

I don’t get it. The entire server ladder system is destroyed already. Tournaments are now impossible. Just get rid of the server system and make a global system that is adaptable.

Let everyone play together. Create overflow “campaigns” at reset according to the previous week population, let guilds or players choose their campaign and alliance.

No more population problems and server balancing. The guilds will register to a campaign weekly, keeping a priority spot to their previous campaign, and contribute to a global score of their alliance.

When the population drops campaigns are removed. When all campaigns are filled a new one open up. When an alliance has more players randomly chosen guilds are incited to change alliances at the next reset for a 100% magic find weekly increase.

When a guild leader change campaign the entire guild is transferred automatically.

Players can guest on other campaign of their alliance at a penalty of not getting loot.

Then you can create these mega tournaments and everyone will be able to play as they wish.

DON’T TOUCH MY SERVER PRIDE!!!!!!!!!!!