Guild Wars 2

Is Kaineng the next SoS ? are they going to rise to the tops and become the next No. 1 server in NA? who knows time will tell. Well in the meantime, please keep the WvW guild transfers coming to Kain before 28th of January. And see you guys in the battle field. GL HF

Kaineng is the FOTM transfer server right now.

WM and some other guild decided to do a project with it, like TA did with HoN. Mass transfer for easy win.

I don’t know if Kaineng will be tier 1 quality, but after seeing post like this, they will have the biggest ego for sure.

Kain has changed alot in the past couple of weeks. We have grown in a exponential rate believe or not :P

Congratulations on your 40man guild group zergball transfers.

Not even sure why this would even seem important as a topic, other than to encourage forum drama. I have a very Zen approach – Kaineng will settle in the tier it’s meant to be in.

Bottom line, the “new” Kaineng has never been tested yet. Until we face a good tough fight, we won’t know how Kaineng will hold up.

Short answer: No
Long answer: Noooooooooooooooooooooo

Kain as of right now is not a tier 1 level not even tier 2. Kein hasn’t been in actual fights yet. they blow out servers every week for the past 2 or 3 weeks? and thats it. Next week they will probably face DB and Kain will have to put up a fight against em and week after that Kein will have to really fight against the some of the top servers in the game. Thats where we will see how good Kaineng really is.

Taras.4367:

Kain as of right now is not a tier 1 level not even tier 2. Kein hasn’t been in actual fights yet. they blow out servers every week for the past 2 or 3 weeks? and thats it. Next week they will probably face DB and Kain will have to put up a fight against em and week after that Kein will have to really fight against the some of the top servers in the game. Thats where we will see how good Kaineng really is.

This.
Kaineng is getting all this praise right now because how much they’re dominating in tiers that are completely unbalanced.
While I know they have some of the better wvwers in the game right now, I think they’re going to hit a wall in the next week or two.

My head has become one with my desk. Don’t we have enough flack to deal with? This thread is just begging to be swamped with llama drama.

Anatolian Turk.4057:

Kain has changed alot in the past couple of weeks. We have grown in a exponential rate believe or not :P

I know, Everybody know.

Take a tier 1 guild of taiwanese that play like robot, send them in one of the last tier servers, and this is what happen.

What ever happen, this is not the same server that I used to like.

I remember when they had a blog with videos, pulling few number and using the grub to attack bigger server.

Now they are just the result of some sort of artificial transfer.

The good thing is, Kaineng prolly won’t suffer from those transfer. Usually, mass transfer result in a lot of leaver once they hit a wall. But Transfer are closing at the end of the month, so this prolly won’t be an issue.

People should ignore this thread, I don’t even think the TS is from Kaineng.

Kardiamond.6952:

Take a tier 1 guild of taiwanese that play like robot, send them in one of the last tier servers, and this is what happen.

If you are talking about WM, they are Koreans, not Taiwanese.

Kaineng = the most WvW hipster server.

My guild has fought Maguuma before a few times, we know how they WvW, their great I give you that, but we have seen them before, as well as beaten DB before a few times in the past. I’m waiting to see what happens on the field next time we see them, here’s hoping to a great match with them again.

Littlefeather.8623:

My guild has fought Maguuma before a few times, we know how they WvW, their great I give you that, but we have seen them before, as well as beaten DB before a few times in the past. I’m waiting to see what happens on the field next time we see them, here’s hoping to a great match with them again.

With all due respect (And I mean that non-sarcastically, I desire no drama to arise from this),
DB got a bunch of new guilds too since the last time RE fought us, and our NA crew is much larger than it was then as well. It should be a different experience than it was the last time we met.

Maguuma as well, received many more transfers than we did (But I’m sure you watch the situation, so I don’t need to educate here).
I think the next two weeks for Kaineng are going to be quite a bit more difficult than people expect.

Kaineng makes easy points overnight like DB did before. And while Kaineng’s Asian guilds will probably be able to overcome DB’s nighttime guilds (If the whisperings I hear about WM are correct), it certainly won’t be a +695 blowout all night like you’ve been having.

I’m making no predictions about what daytime will be like,
Because DB has never fought Kaineng or many of the guilds there; with the exception of RE. And even RE hasn’t fought DB as we are now.

EnRohbi.2187:

Littlefeather.8623:

My guild has fought Maguuma before a few times, we know how they WvW, their great I give you that, but we have seen them before, as well as beaten DB before a few times in the past. I’m waiting to see what happens on the field next time we see them, here’s hoping to a great match with them again.

With all due respect (And I mean that non-sarcastically, I desire no drama to arise from this),
DB got a bunch of new guilds too since the last time RE fought us, and our NA crew is much larger than it was then as well. It should be a different experience than it was the last time we met.

Maguuma as well, received many more transfers than we did (But I’m sure you watch the situation, so I don’t need to educate here).
I think the next two weeks for Kaineng are going to be quite a bit more difficult than people expect.

Kaineng makes easy points overnight like DB did before. And while Kaineng’s Asian guilds will probably be able to overcome DB’s nighttime guilds (If the whisperings I hear about WM are correct), it certainly won’t be a +695 blowout all night like you’ve been having.

I’m making no predictions about what daytime will be like,
Because DB has never fought Kaineng or many of the guilds there; with the exception of RE. And even RE hasn’t fought DB as we are now.

I agree man, a lot of changes on both sides, personally I love fighting against Maguuma, so much they bring to the table, and DB well last time we fought yall, yall did surprise me a lot I will say that. I make no claim about getting points easy or hard btw, my only claim was RE has the experience of fighting both servers, but you are right servers have changed. Much respect and I can not wait (for the sake of fighting old friendly rivals again) to fight both of yall again

Ain.7082:

Short answer: No
Long answer: Noooooooooooooooooooooo

Longer answer: Noooooooooooooooooooooo, not yet. Don’t fool yourselves kiddos we have a long haul ahead of us.

Facing DB will be fun though, I miss fighting those guys!

Thread should be closed for overt and misplaced chest thumping..? Bah, so silly.

No way, they couldn’t win in T1 on a huge server like SBI…….what makes you think they will win in T1 on a lil server like kaineng?

Ranc.7192:

No way, they couldn’t win in T1 on a huge server like SBI…….what makes you think they will win in T1 on a lil server like kaineng?

Ah, I see what you did there ;p…

The thread is about the Kaineng server, not WM my friend. And I am sure WM can definetly hold their own when it comes down to it, they have the support of the entire server with them.

Ranc.7192:

Littlefeather.8623:

Ranc.7192:

No way, they couldn’t win in T1 on a huge server like SBI…….what makes you think they will win in T1 on a lil server like kaineng?

Ah, I see what you did there ;p…

The thread is about the Kaineng server, not WM my friend. And I am sure WM can definetly hold their own when it comes down to it, they have the support of the entire server with them.

Of course [WM] can hold their own………The question is can Kaineng hold their own?

They will rise up until they hit a challenge, then 20-30% of their server will stop coming out to wvw almost instantly because steamrolling the karma train around the map is the most efficient karma making method. Once it’s no longer a matter of log in join zerg get karma and xp.. those folks will go back to something else.

That said, if the other 80-70% is large enough and organized enough they will keep on going up the ranks. Still to be seen. They will have a small advantage that the bandwagon guilds will have to pay to leave so they’ll likely stay even if the server loses once. I predict a fast rise to tier 3.. a tough fight there and a final position of somewhere in tier 2 before they melt like butter on a grill.

Posting in this thread to be able to subscribe (does that even work) to bump it once Kaineng hits the T4 brick wall.

I posted it somewhere else, but the opener on the 25th will be the most important opener ever for Kaineng. If the other two servers manage to deny Kaineng and opening success then all the bandwagoneers on the server will quickly transfer off before the free transfer close on the 28th.

Humpink.2306:

Posting in this thread to be able to subscribe (does that even work) to bump it once Kaineng hits the T4 brick wall.

I posted it somewhere else, but the opener on the 25th will be the most important opener ever for Kaineng. If the other two servers manage to deny Kaineng and opening success then all the bandwagoneers on the server will quickly transfer off before the free transfer close on the 28th.

Good point, I agree as well, I hope this will put a fire in my guild mates kitten to bring them out to WvW and remember why we came here

Humpink.2306:

Posting in this thread to be able to subscribe (does that even work) to bump it once Kaineng hits the T4 brick wall.

I posted it somewhere else, but the opener on the 25th will be the most important opener ever for Kaineng. If the other two servers manage to deny Kaineng and opening success then all the bandwagoneers on the server will quickly transfer off before the free transfer close on the 28th.

See, because I’m going to BE part of that t4 brick wall,
I don’t want to get too arrogant about it.

But I do agree and suspect that Kaineng is going to have a rough time once the real challenge starts.
I have no disrespect for WM or RE, but two big guilds can’t carry a server into the higher tiers alone, and if the smaller guilds on Kaineng get demoralized after tier 4 it’s gonna be rough.

EnRohbi.2187:

Humpink.2306:

Posting in this thread to be able to subscribe (does that even work) to bump it once Kaineng hits the T4 brick wall.

I posted it somewhere else, but the opener on the 25th will be the most important opener ever for Kaineng. If the other two servers manage to deny Kaineng and opening success then all the bandwagoneers on the server will quickly transfer off before the free transfer close on the 28th.

See, because I’m going to BE part of that t4 brick wall,
I don’t want to get too arrogant about it.

But I do agree and suspect that Kaineng is going to have a rough time once the real challenge starts.
I have no disrespect for WM or RE, but two big guilds can’t carry a server into the higher tiers alone, and if the smaller guilds on Kaineng get demoralized after tier 4 it’s gonna be rough.

I completely agree on this too, well except for the two big guilds, actually there are a lot of new guilds now on Kaineng, and Im going to be honest and say I cant even keep track of all the new ones I have seen. I do know also that SoS is huge, but their mainly PvE I think, most of them but their like 5 guilds combined from what I remember reading one time.

If all of RE will just do WvW, we could actually que 2 maps, being that we are a WvW focused guild, I dont see how that is not happening every day, meh thats just me though.

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA

Best of luck, Kaineng, on your uphill battle. When you can best the roleplaying server, Tarnished Coast, you’ll have a shot at Tier 1.

EnRohbi.2187:

See, because I’m going to BE part of that t4 brick wall,
I don’t want to get too arrogant about it.

But I do agree and suspect that Kaineng is going to have a rough time once the real challenge starts.
I have no disrespect for WM or RE, but two big guilds can’t carry a server into the higher tiers alone, and if the smaller guilds on Kaineng get demoralized after tier 4 it’s gonna be rough.

Funniest part of this?…You seem to think RE and WM are the biggest Guilds on the Server. :p SOS is the biggest by FAR. Beyond that…Kain, KR, Meow, FBA, DD, TGOG, VAST, TMT…And many many more. Someone earlier said “Kaineng will get demoralized and lose 20-30% of their population” or some-such in regards to a “Wall”. What I have been trying to tell people is that judging from what I have seen each Reset Day, about 40-50% of our WvW Population is sitting out because of boredom. So while some are saying that when we meet a Challenge we’ll -lose- population…I think they’re in for a very large surprise. I think there are far more people interested in a GOOD fight, than who will leave. Don’t get me wrong though…I don’t care if it ends up not being true…I’ll still be on Kaineng, and we’ll enjoy our time T5 with more reasonable numbers.

Littlefeather.8623:

EnRohbi.2187:

Humpink.2306:

Posting in this thread to be able to subscribe (does that even work) to bump it once Kaineng hits the T4 brick wall.

I posted it somewhere else, but the opener on the 25th will be the most important opener ever for Kaineng. If the other two servers manage to deny Kaineng and opening success then all the bandwagoneers on the server will quickly transfer off before the free transfer close on the 28th.

See, because I’m going to BE part of that t4 brick wall,
I don’t want to get too arrogant about it.

But I do agree and suspect that Kaineng is going to have a rough time once the real challenge starts.
I have no disrespect for WM or RE, but two big guilds can’t carry a server into the higher tiers alone, and if the smaller guilds on Kaineng get demoralized after tier 4 it’s gonna be rough.

I completely agree on this too, well except for the two big guilds, actually there are a lot of new guilds now on Kaineng, and Im going to be honest and say I cant even keep track of all the new ones I have seen. I do know also that SoS is huge, but their mainly PvE I think, most of them but their like 5 guilds combined from what I remember reading one time.

If all of RE will just do WvW, we could actually que 2 maps, being that we are a WvW focused guild, I dont see how that is not happening every day, meh thats just me though.

Meow, ToFu, TL… the list goes on and just porting JP on my mes I saw so many others than have transfered even in the last two days. T4 will be our first challenge but I don’t think they’ll be a brick wall anymore. T1 is an overestimation at this point, imho.

StormWolf.7645:

EnRohbi.2187:

See, because I’m going to BE part of that t4 brick wall,
I don’t want to get too arrogant about it.

But I do agree and suspect that Kaineng is going to have a rough time once the real challenge starts.
I have no disrespect for WM or RE, but two big guilds can’t carry a server into the higher tiers alone, and if the smaller guilds on Kaineng get demoralized after tier 4 it’s gonna be rough.

Funniest part of this?…You seem to think RE and WM are the biggest Guilds on the Server. :p SOS is the biggest by FAR. Beyond that…Kain, KR, Meow, FBA, DD, TGOG, VAST, TMT…And many many more. Someone earlier said “Kaineng will get demoralized and lose 20-30% of their population” or some-such in regards to a “Wall”. What I have been trying to tell people is that judging from what I have seen each Reset Day, about 40-50% of our WvW Population is sitting out because of boredom. So while some are saying that when we meet a Challenge we’ll -lose- population…I think they’re in for a very large surprise. I think there are far more people interested in a GOOD fight, than who will leave. Don’t get me wrong though…I don’t care if it ends up not being true…I’ll still be on Kaineng, and we’ll enjoy our time T5 with more reasonable numbers.

By which they mean RE and WM field the largest numbers in WvW. Chaster will be the first to tell you SoS is largely PvE, etc… No one is discounting the other guilds just tallying numbers inside WvW on a daily basis.

StormWolf.7645:

EnRohbi.2187:

See, because I’m going to BE part of that t4 brick wall,
I don’t want to get too arrogant about it.

But I do agree and suspect that Kaineng is going to have a rough time once the real challenge starts.
I have no disrespect for WM or RE, but two big guilds can’t carry a server into the higher tiers alone, and if the smaller guilds on Kaineng get demoralized after tier 4 it’s gonna be rough.

Funniest part of this?…You seem to think RE and WM are the biggest Guilds on the Server. :p SOS is the biggest by FAR. Beyond that…Kain, KR, Meow, FBA, DD, TGOG, VAST, TMT…And many many more. Someone earlier said “Kaineng will get demoralized and lose 20-30% of their population” or some-such in regards to a “Wall”. What I have been trying to tell people is that judging from what I have seen each Reset Day, about 40-50% of our WvW Population is sitting out because of boredom. So while some are saying that when we meet a Challenge we’ll -lose- population…I think they’re in for a very large surprise. I think there are far more people interested in a GOOD fight, than who will leave. Don’t get me wrong though…I don’t care if it ends up not being true…I’ll still be on Kaineng, and we’ll enjoy our time T5 with more reasonable numbers.

Well,
As I believe I’ve said in previous posts,
The only guild on Kaineng I think DB has fought anytime recently enough for it to matter is RE. We’ve never been matched in WvW since Kaineng was always riding tier 8. So I very admittedly do not know much about the Kaineng wvw population and only speak to what I’ve heard from people and read on the forums.

I also speak from my experience, Kaineng will not be the first server who spikes up from a lower tier and then hits a wall in tier 4. It seems to be the tier where many servers that are spiking get stopped.

I disagree that Kaineng will make it to tier 1,
And I don’t REALLY think it’ll make it to tier 2.

I think either Tier 3 or 4 is going to be Kaineng’s home once the paid transfers kick in, assuming it maintains the wvw population it has.

And I have seen multiple servers over the past few months fall apart after a loss in wvw. So it’s not outlandish to think that if Kaineng does not compete as well in higher tiers as they expect to, that they will lose their fairweather players.
And don’t be mistaken, many guilds that have claimed server pride and vowed never to leave the server they were on have gotten up and jumped ship a week later.

It’s a hard thing to predict and I’m not trying to be disrespectful to Kaineng, just making my observations and trying to back them up

Kaineng is actually in a very good spot structurally because it is not a full server, has lots of momentum, and guilds transferring to it. And because paid transfers are incoming, the number of guilds looking for a new winning server that they can move to is particularly high. It is literally perfect timing for Kaineng. And they’re getting more people every day.

Next week Kain will go against DB(or maybe CD), and a YB server that is kind of on life-support. As a Dragonbrand player I look forward to seeing just how beastly Kaineng is firsthand, but I don’t enjoy the thought of going against them with a 3rd server that seems to be losing numbers and the will to fight.

A Kain/Mag/DB fight would be hard fought, a Kain/YB/DB fight is going to be a Kain victory, albeit with smaller margins than before.

As to whether or not Kain can get to Tier1, I don’t know, but they will make it to Tier2 at least.

Caliburn.1845:

Kaineng is actually in a very good spot structurally because it is not a full server, has lots of momentum, and guilds transferring to it. And because paid transfers are incoming, the number of guilds looking for a new winning server that they can move to is particularly high. It is literally perfect timing for Kaineng. And they’re getting more people every day.

You forgot the 24/7 Coverage.

24/7 Kaineng can keep minimum of 1-2 BLs Queue’d. -This- is the reason I think Kaineng will go further than some people are thinking.

Everything hangs in the balance of the battle outcomes of 3 days, the 25th to 27th.

If Kaineng can dominate DB (e.g. 400 to 200), they would get a bunch of people that are on the fence to join them.

If the game is much closer (e.g. 300 to 200), those people on the fence would join the top servers (SoS, JQ, SoR) instead. The server limits of all servers has just increased so there is room now, even for large guilds. This update didn’t help Kaineng since they weren’t full from before.

Another factor to consider is that the wvw queue wait time on those top servers is becoming pretty serious. 1h or longer waits are not uncommon. So Kaineng would get some guilds due to their relatively shorter queue wait times.

Kaineng also have the advantage of being Oceanic/Korean/Taiwanese heavy. That means any points that their NA counterpart can get would be “bonus” on top of their Oceanic/Korean “domination”. What that means is the pressure is not on the NA guilds. They can just play for fun.

I fully expect Kaineng to loss in NA prime time. But they would get those points back in Oceanic/Korean time zones. The final result would probably be T2/T3.

Kaineng also have the largest amount of fairweathers and a whole bunch of headstrong guilds all in pretty much the same alliance. sounds a bit like HoD 2.0 and we all know what happened there

DB is a tough opponent and judging by the matchup scores i’m guessing YB arent going to roll over either. Tier 3 will be watching next week’s tier 4 matchup with interest.

The longest que I’ve had on JQ was about 15 minutes, on reset day. Probably about the same for all T1 and T2 servers. No idea were anyone is getting 1hr que’s from, ludicrous at this stage of the game.

EnRohbi.2187:

Littlefeather.8623:

My guild has fought Maguuma before a few times, we know how they WvW, their great I give you that, but we have seen them before, as well as beaten DB before a few times in the past. I’m waiting to see what happens on the field next time we see them, here’s hoping to a great match with them again.

With all due respect (And I mean that non-sarcastically, I desire no drama to arise from this),
DB got a bunch of new guilds too since the last time RE fought us, and our NA crew is much larger than it was then as well. It should be a different experience than it was the last time we met.

Maguuma as well, received many more transfers than we did (But I’m sure you watch the situation, so I don’t need to educate here).
I think the next two weeks for Kaineng are going to be quite a bit more difficult than people expect.

Kaineng makes easy points overnight like DB did before. And while Kaineng’s Asian guilds will probably be able to overcome DB’s nighttime guilds (If the whisperings I hear about WM are correct), it certainly won’t be a +695 blowout all night like you’ve been having.

I’m making no predictions about what daytime will be like,
Because DB has never fought Kaineng or many of the guilds there; with the exception of RE. And even RE hasn’t fought DB as we are now.

To emphasize this.

DB gained 2 guilds FROM Kaineng. The old Kaineng that fought DR to a standstill week after week while bing outnumbered. Not the new Kaineng full of transfers who have done nothing but beat up on smaller servers since DR left Tier8.

2 weeks after War/Ispy left Kaineng and went back to DB after a being on Kineng for 9 weeks fighting toothe and nail getting Kaineng its first ever win in a WvW matchup and then fighting the DR with its own mass transfers… 2 weeks after we left Kaineng is when RE and the NEO alliance got to Kaineng.

The current state of DB is very different than when RE last fought us. We have gained a significant increase in our Na population with the xfer of guilds to cover NA primetime. We also have a tested and battle hardened Oceanic/Asian prescence that hasnt grown soft fighting dead or dieing servers.

And the current state of Kaineng is nothing like it was when it gained a well earned reputation as a “little server that could” for months in T8 fighting much larger opponents. They have yet to be genuinely tested.

I look forward to fighting our old server, see you on the battlefield.

Kaineng definitely has stronger coverage since the War Machine move, but I honestly don’t think it’s enough to take them straight to T1.

Though to be honest, WM’s efficiency alone is enough to give T2 a decent fight.

Why do people keep posting these?!

CD is losing guilds now and it appears the DB will pass CD in rating. Kain should be able to roll the weakened CD with Yaks next week.

Kain’s huge test is still 2 weeks away. It is a long way to predict but a Mag/FA/Kain fight should be absolutely fantastic in 2 weeks. Unless DB can manage to spoil the party by performing very well next week against Mag and FA.

Either way things in T2/3 are about to get very interesting with Mag and Kain smashing into them.

Dhampyr.2104:

WTB originality.

200 gold and it’s yours!

lol Bandwagon server? You can say that about tier 1 through 3 servers as well.

thenoobler.7540:

EnRohbi.2187:

Littlefeather.8623:

My guild has fought Maguuma before a few times, we know how they WvW, their great I give you that, but we have seen them before, as well as beaten DB before a few times in the past. I’m waiting to see what happens on the field next time we see them, here’s hoping to a great match with them again.

With all due respect (And I mean that non-sarcastically, I desire no drama to arise from this),
DB got a bunch of new guilds too since the last time RE fought us, and our NA crew is much larger than it was then as well. It should be a different experience than it was the last time we met.

Maguuma as well, received many more transfers than we did (But I’m sure you watch the situation, so I don’t need to educate here).
I think the next two weeks for Kaineng are going to be quite a bit more difficult than people expect.

Kaineng makes easy points overnight like DB did before. And while Kaineng’s Asian guilds will probably be able to overcome DB’s nighttime guilds (If the whisperings I hear about WM are correct), it certainly won’t be a +695 blowout all night like you’ve been having.

I’m making no predictions about what daytime will be like,
Because DB has never fought Kaineng or many of the guilds there; with the exception of RE. And even RE hasn’t fought DB as we are now.

To emphasize this.

DB gained 2 guilds FROM Kaineng. The old Kaineng that fought DR to a standstill week after week while bing outnumbered. Not the new Kaineng full of transfers who have done nothing but beat up on smaller servers since DR left Tier8.

2 weeks after War/Ispy left Kaineng and went back to DB after a being on Kineng for 9 weeks fighting toothe and nail getting Kaineng its first ever win in a WvW matchup and then fighting the DR with its own mass transfers… 2 weeks after we left Kaineng is when RE and the NEO alliance got to Kaineng.

The current state of DB is very different than when RE last fought us. We have gained a significant increase in our Na population with the xfer of guilds to cover NA primetime. We also have a tested and battle hardened Oceanic/Asian prescence that hasnt grown soft fighting dead or dieing servers.

And the current state of Kaineng is nothing like it was when it gained a well earned reputation as a “little server that could” for months in T8 fighting much larger opponents. They have yet to be genuinely tested.

I look forward to fighting our old server, see you on the battlefield.

I’ve been trying to figure out why Warsworn sounded so familiar when I only recently started noticing you guys around ;D

People get too excited. No Kaineng won’t be the next SoS or hit no. 1 in NA let alone enter T1, just don’t see it happening yet. Things may change or may not.
It’s good enough to get into T2, that Im sure of.
Now stop with these hyped up threads, you’re making kaineng look bad.

milknnuts.8610:

People get too excited. No Kaineng won’t be the next SoS or hit no. 1 in NA let alone enter T1, just don’t see it happening yet. Things may change or may not.
It’s good enough to get into T2, that Im sure of.
Now stop with these hyped up threads, you’re making kaineng look bad.

Honestly,
Even without any of these threads,
A lot of people (Notice how I’m careful not to say “all people” or “most people”, because forum warriors will just respond with “No actually not everyone”) are sour on Kaineng already just because most of its wvw population are bandwagoners.

I suspect someone’s going to get all defense and write a big long post about how this isn’t true, and you’re welcome to do so, but these are opinions that were set when all the transfers to Kaineng started to become noticeable.

Well, the strategy used is rather underhanded, although brilliant.

War Machine practices very good tactics, they are a korean hardcore WvW guild and have dedication that some of us with school and jobs simply can’t provide.

They use their personal tactics to reflect the server and then while they are stomping on the lower tier servers, offer the idea of getting to t1 as an incentive for poaching guilds from the servers they have fought against in the lower tiers. this gives them a population and they have made a point to take guilds of opposite timezones to themselves in order to field consistently through all times of day.

It’s brilliant, but since they took the entire NSP night crew with them, I’m a little upset with such shady poaching based on demoralizing a server and giving them a “Grass is greener over here” idea afterwards.

Once again, brilliant, but I think that some of the guilds from lower tier will find higher tier play not to their liking and some of the guilds will transfer and others will simply dissolve. This has happened to many guilds who have transferred from NSP to higher tier servers. It’s rather sad, but it’s not like we did not warn them the effects of transferring and the loss of players, structure, and stability. Not to mention leaving before understanding the play type of t1 servers before actually resolving to transfer.