Guild Wars 2

Here is a ladder Kills / Deaths Ratio from the winners from every match up EU/NA combined . Enjoy

1. Maguuma- Ratio: 1.89

2. Crystal Desert – Ratio: 1.37

3. Jade Quarry – Ratio: 1.19

4. Seafarer’s Rest – Ratio: 1.17

5. Desolation – Ratio: 1.17 (1.16.9)

6. Gunnar’s Hold – Ratio: 1.05 (105.1)

7. Elona Reach – Ratio: 1.05 (104.6)

8. Jade Sea – Ratio: 0.96

9. Abaddon’s Mouth – Ratio: 0.71

10. Dragonbrand – Ratio: 0.69

Can we have the losers too, I’d just like to see the data if available. Our matchup looks like it was either won by pvd or ppt … and I’d like to see my servers KD ratio

Is there a link i can visit?

Hexinx.1872:

Can we have the losers too, I’d just like to see the data if available. Our matchup looks like it was either won by pvd or ppt … and I’d like to see my servers KD ratio

Is there a link i can visit?

http://wvwintel.com/ Just pick your server then click on the arrow pointing down

Thanks … and f yeah … way to TC. While it’s embarrassing that DB+ is getting the win with a measly 0.70 kd ratio … I’m proud to lose when our KD ratio is at 1.20 i think that is even an improvement over last week. Our ppt game is well … likely the crapiest, but who cares, crap gets tired time and time again.

Thanks for the link. I’ll save that for future.

Props to the DB players that left the zerg to get fights. You guys set a great example for T1. What WvW should be.

Still won the PPT game also nice job. Maybe the other servers will split their K-trains and start challenging themselves too.

Aphs.9528:

1. Maguuma- Ratio: 1.89

Let the jerking begin… #Magswag

Jeknar.6184:

Aphs.9528:

1. Maguuma- Ratio: 1.89

Let the jerking begin… #Magswag

Good thing they probably got that score with skill and not 5v1 condi gankers, right? RIGHT?

Jeknar.6184:

Aphs.9528:

1. Maguuma- Ratio: 1.89

Let the jerking begin… #Magswag

more like: let the train of rationalizations on why Mag has been top KDR in literally every matchup they’ve had besides “the server houses more quality players on average” begin

Pinko.2076:

Jeknar.6184:

Aphs.9528:

1. Maguuma- Ratio: 1.89

Let the jerking begin… #Magswag

more like: let the train of rationalizations on why Mag has been top KDR in literally every matchup they’ve had besides “the server houses more quality players on average” begin

Right?
My favorite complaint is, "it’s not fair because mag stacked itself with veteran players. "

I can’t speak for other people but I’ve moved my accounts around a good bit and the reason I’ve kept my main account on mag since moving there is because I can count on random pugs to hold there own in a fight. I can see 4 players try to gank 1 mag roamer and I’ll jump in confidant that we can win.

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

Jeknar.6184:

Aphs.9528:

1. Maguuma- Ratio: 1.89

Let the jerking begin… #Magswag

Good thing they probably got that score with skill and not 5v1 condi gankers, right? RIGHT?

God Bless your salt.

displayname.8315:

Props to the DB players that left the zerg to get fights. You guys set a great example for T1. What WvW should be.

Still won the PPT game also nice job. Maybe the other servers will split their K-trains and start challenging themselves too.

DB zergs the same as the rest of them only difference is they die more doing it

KDR shows who zergs the hardest obvi. WvW isn’t a pre set GvG. Some servers take any fight, other servers fall back till they outnumber. God bless DB for just fighting it out and having fun.

^ LOL db would get farmed by dh’s npc’s and you would still use that excuse

Sure and JQ SEA rolls over everything with pure skill. I guess KDR should just be called skill to death ratio.

displayname.8315:

Sure and JQ SEA rolls over everything with pure skill. I guess KDR should just be called skill to death ratio.

Capping empty towers doesn’t contribute to kdr…

KDR bb cakes. WoW expansion is going to put a huge impact on gw2. Ah sorry buds even though wvw is endgame the only way to GvG another guild from a different server is eotm or guild halls. Which are a pain in the kitten to get for small guilds and retal is still broken. Ty for the ban in advance. Forgot I should be more liberal

This isn’t the salt forums packit, you need to dodge the moderator’s zeal here.

Separating into NA/EU & noting the score-based tier (not the match up tier)

EU
4. Seafarer’s Rest — 1.17 (T2, no link)
5. Desolation — 1.17 (T1 + link)
6. Gunnar’s Hold — 1.05 (T5 + link)
7. Elona Reach — 1.05 (T4, no link, DE)
8. Jade Sea — 0.96 (T2, no link, FR)
9. Abaddon’s Mouth — 0.71 (T5 + link, DE)

NA
1. Maguuma — 1.89 (T2 + link)
2. Crystal Desert -- 1.37 (T4 + link)
3. Jade Quarry — 1.19 (T2 + link)
10. Dragonbrand — 0.69 (T1 + link)

I don’t see any viable patterns in the EU. The top kill/death ratios appear in all tiers, in worlds both linked and unlinked, language-specific and language-neutral.

In NA, all the high KDR worlds are linked. However, given how few worlds there are and how few match ups we have, I’m not sure that means anything.

Maybe the most ‘interesting’ tidbit is that the top KDR ratio is 2.7 times more than the lowest.

I think the only conclusion I can draw from a week’s worth of KDR data is:

• People enjoy different aspects of WvW.
• KDR is not a useful predictor of rank.

Be interesting to compare 3 months of KDR data pre-linking and post, to see if worlds seem to have changed tactics or if there’s a lot of week-to-week variation within the same world.

tl;dr KDR is good for bragging rights if you think that killing foes is more important than score.

If it was done in game on a player level and an overall player avg it would be more interesting. Just viewing the API of server level kills doesn’t tell much.

What is it good for?

Absolutely nothing!

Without knowing how they were killed it means nothing.
For all you know the Maguuma zerg could have been hiding in their towers filled with ACs whilst the enemy zergs kept on attacking and players dying to ACs until they finally took the tower.

Doesnt mean Maguuma are skilled players or anything else really.

Buy Some Apples.6390:

What is it good for?

Absolutely nothing!

Without knowing how they were killed it means nothing.
For all you know the Maguuma zerg could have been hiding in their towers filled with ACs whilst the enemy zergs kept on attacking and players dying to ACs until they finally took the tower.

Doesnt mean Maguuma are skilled players or anything else really.

Mag uses Catas and Rams. The only other times I see them build other seige is when they own SM.

When a T3 server consistently has the highest KDR between both NA and EU servers since KDR started to be tracked, while playing against servers from different tiers, sizes and coverages, you know that they must do something right.
#magswag

Buy Some Apples.6390:

What is it good for?

Absolutely nothing!

Without knowing how they were killed it means nothing.
For all you know the Maguuma zerg could have been hiding in their towers filled with ACs whilst the enemy zergs kept on attacking and players dying to ACs until they finally took the tower.

Doesnt mean Maguuma are skilled players or anything else really.

If you compare the KDR from servers like Maguuma and BG, that have a old and strong fight culture, and compare to the KDR of a server like Yak’s Bend, that have a old and strong siege culture, its crystal clear that positive KDR is WAY more impacted by people fighting (and winning) than siegehumping.

Yes forming a Karma train keeps you safe and you get more kills and die less. This has been known for years. You end up losing the match and stuff gets papered when a group could save it, but whatever. Blob fights would be better but that lag man jeez.

Pinko.2076:

Jeknar.6184:

Aphs.9528:

1. Maguuma- Ratio: 1.89

Let the jerking begin… #Magswag

more like: let the train of rationalizations on why Mag has been top KDR in literally every matchup they’ve had besides “the server houses more quality players on average” begin

The boonshare is strong with this one.

displayname.8315:

Yes forming a Karma train keeps you safe and you get more kills and die less. This has been known for years. You end up losing the match and stuff gets papered when a group could save it, but whatever. Blob fights would be better but that lag man jeez.

you’re saying a High pop server is somehow blobbing more than the Very High and Full servers they’re fighting? you are on mental gymnastics

KDR is the result of overwhelming odds in most case, not skill.

Eypheha.5831:

KDR is the result of overwhelming odds in most case, not skill.

Yeah guys, nevermind the fact mag is the smallest server in their matchup or that they were dominating kdr during reset when all 3 sides had map queues…… wait….

Let’s see…Mag runs a blob twice the size of anything they go up against when they’re on…more kills.

Then when they’re not able to produce that…they have nobody on….less deaths.

Wow..what a great idea. Don’t believe me? Look at the history of their last battle. Scores go from 400+ to less than a hundred. Ya can’t kill what ain’t there.

Eypheha.5831:

Let’s see…Mag runs a blob twice the size of anything they go up against when they’re on…more kills.

Then when they’re not able to produce that…they have nobody on….less deaths.

Wow..what a great idea. Don’t believe me? Look at the history of their last battle. Scores go from 400+ to less than a hundred. Ya can’t kill what ain’t there.

Yeah… sorry, I have a jq account too. I get to see the fight from both sides. jq will have the map queued when mag doesn’t and jq will be losing the fights (against the pug zerg) and losing everything else on the map to small roaming groups.

People don’t like Mag because we have an ego from being the best for so long. Most of us only PPT to stay in whatever tier we want to stay in. Right now we wanted to be in t2 because t3 is nothing but siege wars.

I play WvW because I like pvp with the stats I like to use, not the garbage they make eles use in spvp. I spend most of my time roaming because I’ve never been much of a follower. While I agree Mag has a lot of skilled players, we also have a lot of horrible players that I don’t even know where they came from. I troll Mag pugs hard everyday. I legit feel there is way too much stealth in the game now. (Yes, stealth. Not condies). Fighting roamers where there’s 4 out of 5 that can stealth whenever they get any pressure put on them.

RE: the current matchup, I have been getting ran over by 30+ jq, and 20+ fa when fighting already outmatched roaming fights on the regular.

I wish there was an easy way to calculate the kills and deaths for your own individual character each day in WvW.

It’s as if people selectively ignore the bad things about their servers and throw it on to enemy servers. FA had an entire queue consisting of 3 guilds + pugs on Mag BL last night running along with each other. Never mind when they build AC’s/Ballis in NET.

Please add a kill death ratio for every players in wvw, please anet. With weekly or monthly reset or permanent record.

XerMeLL.6042:

Please add a kill death ratio for every players in wvw, please anet. With weekly or monthly reset or permanent record.

I want to see that happens too, please Anet.

I wish wvw titles were based on that kind of performance. Like how every other pvp game in the world works. Instead of based on karma training npcs. lol

Personal KDR would be great. Even better would be titles for killing a certain number of each race/class in WvW. I want my Asura Bane title.

Pinko.2076:

Jeknar.6184:

Aphs.9528:

1. Maguuma- Ratio: 1.89

Let the jerking begin… #Magswag

more like: let the train of rationalizations on why Mag has been top KDR in literally every matchup they’ve had besides “the server houses more quality players on average” begin

With the exception of your last week in t2

Grats to JQ for the #3 slot, right up there with Mag in the skills dept.

the only way mag wins fights is with boon share, condis, and hacks

they don’t deserve to be #1

wolf.1895:

they don’t deserve to be #1

Must be why they’re #7

LetoII.3782:

wolf.1895:

they don’t deserve to be #1

Must be why they’re #7

I thought you liked maf’s? #5 peepeetee #magswag

XerMeLL.6042:

Please add a kill death ratio for every players in wvw, please anet. With weekly or monthly reset or permanent record.

Kind of impossible since the score is based on just deaths. A kill would only be creditable if a foe took 100% of its damage from a single person, for then just going by kill credit by tagging, a group of 30 could tag one random guy and each of them would push a KDA. Eles and AoE classes in zergs would have tremendous scores considering it’s common that on a given death they’ll rack up many, many assists.

DeceiverX.8361:

XerMeLL.6042:

Please add a kill death ratio for every players in wvw, please anet. With weekly or monthly reset or permanent record.

Kind of impossible since the score is based on just deaths. A kill would only be creditable if a foe took 100% of its damage from a single person, for then just going by kill credit by tagging, a group of 30 could tag one random guy and each of them would push a KDA. Eles and AoE classes in zergs would have tremendous scores considering it’s common that on a given death they’ll rack up many, many assists.

Kills, Deaths, Assists… Wtf? Are we playing Doto now?

DeceiverX.8361:

XerMeLL.6042:

Please add a kill death ratio for every players in wvw, please anet. With weekly or monthly reset or permanent record.

Kind of impossible since the score is based on just deaths. A kill would only be creditable if a foe took 100% of its damage from a single person, for then just going by kill credit by tagging, a group of 30 could tag one random guy and each of them would push a KDA. Eles and AoE classes in zergs would have tremendous scores considering it’s common that on a given death they’ll rack up many, many assists.

Man it would be hilarious to see all the eotm zerglings kittening about losing their ultimate dominator titles if kills required you to do something like 75% of the damage.
They would have to create new titles like ultimate helper monkey, or ultimate 1 spammer.

Ultimate Wave of Wrath. Because nothing beats the loot stick when it’s about tagging.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0fxuoJGdGs

It is too bad the game doesn’t split out kills by who tagged whom. Assists would be great to see.

Congrats to those that have the high KDR. No disrespect to anyone, but everyone has different priorities playing WVW. This week in T3 has been fun for me so far. Since Mag moved up, I no longer feel that I should be getting a salary for playing & getting stomped xD Not that I don’t desire my server to win-but it’s all about enjoying the time I spend in-game while doing my best to help.
On the issue of personal kills-I am a reaper(main). I tag a lot but don’t get the stomps. But, it’s all good as long as I am helping the server.
Different strokes for different folks, I guess.
Best of luck to all in your conquests, etc. It’s all about whatever floats your boat.
Peace

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