Guild Wars 2

Since when is it possible for any class to jump from the outter wall in Garri to the inner wall, on the NE side of Garri. 3 Dragon Hunters in SBI did this over and over again tonight and sadly I don’t have a recording thing set up.

If anyone knows how this can be done legitimately please let me know. There were over 50 people on the outter walls. Then they all left… after we had all left Garri to go after Bay suddenly they were all back in Lords room with no outside walls down..

video showing how this is done

This seriously needs to be fixed then… I’m sure this should NOT be something any class should be able to do.

If I remember right, someone posted another video a very long time ago. Nice to know nothing has been done lol

SBI came into your garri from South East Gate

se gate.. ha… I’ve give that since I stupidly didn’t go in that way … just listened to people.. however… that leap from wall to wall still needs to be fixed

we are innocent

Wait was it 3 people or 50? Cause OP says it was 50 on outer then all was on inner. Unless it was 50 DHs…

nooo.. I kinda messed with the timeline… it was three that kept jumping across… and although they came in through se gate I still didn’t see where the inner breech was… unless I was seriously totally blinded by the sea of red… :P

What I said though was that they/you? all left apparently, then we left and next thing we knew a couple minutes later inner lords room was swamped with enemy… I have to assume that east inner was taken down as well but with the keep being T3 that would have been one heck of a quick takedown…

RodOfDeath.5247:

If I remember right, someone posted another video a very long time ago. Nice to know nothing has been done lol

ANet and wvw…

Maybe this is working as intended? (aka “clever use of game mechanics”)

Nice video, perfectly to make this exploit known gamewide.

Offair.2563:

Nice video, perfectly to make this exploit known gamewide.

Since it will never be fixed, I guess we can consider it part of the game. So, what’s the problem in sharing the knowledge?

Offair.2563:

Nice video, perfectly to make this exploit known gamewide.

Sometimes it’s better to simply have common knowledge of exploits. It’s the only thing that can hasten a fix. WvW hitbox/building exploits isnt exactly top priority. If people hadnt posted videos on how you could completely bypass DBL keep walls and just leap through both outer and inner on the druid we’d probably still have that.

I am wondering which other professions with leap-like skills can do the same thing. Anyone tried or only dh can do it?

vove.2768:

RodOfDeath.5247:

If I remember right, someone posted another video a very long time ago. Nice to know nothing has been done lol

ANet and wvw…

Maybe this is working as intended? (aka “clever use of game mechanics”)

I’m 100% positive there was a video posted of Mag doing it and my guess is that the devs got sensitive and deleted the posting.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We are aware of this issue and are working on a fix for it.

Invisible Wall? Reducing the leap range on that skill?

bladedzack.3215:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzSruupuqYU

video showing how this is done

Man how easy is that. Why does anet not just shorten the leap a bit?

morrolan.9608:

bladedzack.3215:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzSruupuqYU

video showing how this is done

Man how easy is that. Why does anet not just shorten the leap a bit?

Changing the structure would be better because they’d basically have to hit up all classes that have similar leaps. Like, I think this leap can also be made by Engineer.

morrolan.9608:

Man how easy is that. Why does anet not just shorten the leap a bit?

And nerf anything about DH? No way. This is golden-boy profession we’re talking about here, not necro or thief.

OriOri.8724:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We are aware of this issue and are working on a fix for it.

Invisible Wall? Reducing the leap range on that skill?

Lol forget any skill changes. Broken skills don’t get re-designs, especially when it’s on guard/thief/ele.

An invisible wall would negate siege projectiles etc. and would also prevent people from jumping off/out.

A simple raised wall piece at that spot would do it. It doesn’t have to be complicated.

Balthazzarr.1349:

A simple raised wall piece at that spot would do it. It doesn’t have to be complicated.

It’s on the cannon spawn, so they’d need to remove the cannon which has some pretty serious potential implications.

move the cannon

DeceiverX.8361:

morrolan.9608:

Man how easy is that. Why does anet not just shorten the leap a bit?

And nerf anything about DH? No way. This is golden-boy profession we’re talking about here, not necro or thief.

OriOri.8724:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We are aware of this issue and are working on a fix for it.

Invisible Wall? Reducing the leap range on that skill?

Lol forget any skill changes. Broken skills don’t get re-designs, especially when it’s on guard/thief/ele.

An invisible wall would negate siege projectiles etc. and would also prevent people from jumping off/out.

Darn, I guess the only option is to give DH the slightest of nerfs. No way in hell that will happen

vove.2768:

I am wondering which other professions with leap-like skills can do the same thing. Anyone tried or only dh can do it?

I considered savage leap on warrior as I’ve played around inner with that skill before and done some interesting things. The problem comes from % movement speed no longer affecting movement skills and savage leap is 600 where wings of resolve is 800 ground targeted.

The best fix would probably be trimming both wall’s collision so people can’t actually stand so far beyond their art.

Justine.6351:

I considered savage leap on warrior as I’ve played around inner with that skill before and done some interesting things. The problem comes from % movement speed no longer affecting movement skills and savage leap is 600 where wings of resolve is 800 ground targeted.

I’ve made it a bit of a personal mission to squeeze the most that can possibly be squeezed out of that skill (sometimes to hilarious effect).

While I haven’t tried Savage Leap on this particular jump, I’d be surprised if it worked. You need to leap from a higher plane in order to gain more than a little extra distance out of it.

As you say, if speed buffs still affected it, then maybe it would work. Then again, I don’t remember anyone doing this jump back when speed did affect distance leaped.

Dawdler.8521:

Offair.2563:

Nice video, perfectly to make this exploit known gamewide.

Sometimes it’s better to simply have common knowledge of exploits. It’s the only thing that can hasten a fix. WvW hitbox/building exploits isnt exactly top priority. If people hadnt posted videos on how you could completely bypass DBL keep walls and just leap through both outer and inner on the druid we’d probably still have that.

Normally i would agree with you. But its anet we talk about and im pretty safe to say that we both know how they deal with exploits/hacks in this game.

Pretty easy to fix, just fix the outer wall so the distance is increased- a minor bit of rounding on that part of the outer wall and you’re done.

No doubt they will try this and leave kitten in the outer wall that can be exploited through…

Justine.6351:

vove.2768:

I am wondering which other professions with leap-like skills can do the same thing. Anyone tried or only dh can do it?

I considered savage leap on warrior as I’ve played around inner with that skill before and done some interesting things. The problem comes from % movement speed no longer affecting movement skills and savage leap is 600 where wings of resolve is 800 ground targeted.

The best fix would probably be trimming both wall’s collision so people can’t actually stand so far beyond their art.

Not a fan of reading patch notes?

while you are at it please fix this “issues” too

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFiEIy41ub2fmnvY6f9G4I3Nb8y--IdlT

LetoII.3782:

Justine.6351:

vove.2768:

I am wondering which other professions with leap-like skills can do the same thing. Anyone tried or only dh can do it?

I considered savage leap on warrior as I’ve played around inner with that skill before and done some interesting things. The problem comes from % movement speed no longer affecting movement skills and savage leap is 600 where wings of resolve is 800 ground targeted.

The best fix would probably be trimming both wall’s collision so people can’t actually stand so far beyond their art.

Not a fan of reading patch notes?

?

Nerf inc! /15charrsonabicycle

To be honest, I’d just shift the outter wall they jump at outward a 300-600 unit distance. That’d be less detrimental, in my opinion, than moving the cannon, putting an invisible wall, or messing with inner.

I think the easiest fix is to literally just ever so slightly increase the height of the inner wall. It doesn’t need much of an increase, maybe half of a character’s height or less. The rest of inner could remain same and just have small ramps leading up to this raised corner-wall.

Adding an invisible wall might mess up a defender standing on the inner wall or perhaps mess up projectiles fired from people between outer and inner.

Shifting the distance between outer and inner may require a more extensive redesign such as moving the entire cliff that alpine garri rests on or pushing the outer wall further into the mountain.