Guild Wars 2

Players have been complaining about omega golems tearing down their siege and therefore cannot defend against an enemy zerg, especially if there are only 10 of them.

So let’s use this exploit for another WvW test. Even if you fix the exploit, leave golems disabled for the next 2 matchups. Maybe allow alphas but disable omegas.

Then lets see how this affects the night capping crews of some servers. I can tell you right now, instead of our BL and EB section being totally gone by morning, we still have it. This is most likely due to the enemy servers not being able to golem rush with omegas!

Anyone else second?

Omega golems are just OP and generally used by easy-mode players; occasionally they are useful for outnumbered defenders but at the end of the day they favour the BLOB. WvW would generally be better off without them.

Aha thats why I noticed so many golems on the enemy servers yesterday. Could be because of the exploit.
I never had much love for these golems so I dont mind if they are deactivated for 2 years.

aspirine.6852:

Aha thats why I noticed so many golems on the enemy servers yesterday. Could be because of the exploit.
I never had much love for these golems so I dont mind if they are deactivated for 2 years.

2 years, hm some servers might be falling down in ranks and and getting crushed by vabbi if that happens, esp one thats being in our match up, lol.

Or maybe just handle them like the other siege weapons. Try to port a ram or arrow cart. No siege weapons allowed in starting areas should count for golems too.

Offair.2563:

aspirine.6852:

Aha thats why I noticed so many golems on the enemy servers yesterday. Could be because of the exploit.
I never had much love for these golems so I dont mind if they are deactivated for 2 years.

2 years, hm some servers might be falling down in ranks and and getting crushed by vabbi if that happens, esp one thats being in our match up, lol.

indeed !

No. I very much enjoy using Golems.
But I could agree to deactivating arrow carts.

don’t allow golems to port anymore.

don’t allow golems to use mesmer portals.

Put Collision Detection on golems with other golems, so you can’t stack a billion in 1 spot. This would force golems to have a limited number attacking the gates.

Disallow golems?

But… some of the most fun times in WvW was when Anet broke siege placement and you couldnt make arrowcarts, rams, trebs, ballistas catas… but you could make golems. Only golems. Instead of blobs running from keep to keep at full flank speed, you had to run a siege train and protect it. With far costlier siege, loosing them was bad.

Grendels Mother.5713:

Omega golems are just OP and generally used by easy-mode players; occasionally they are useful for outnumbered defenders but at the end of the day they favour the BLOB. WvW would generally be better off without them.

Yeah, so OP that all of 12 people have posted on it. The fact that they are gone at the moment, is not effecting the any match ups in any way.

coglin.1867:

…The fact that they are gone at the moment is not effecting the any match ups in any way.

i call BS. i solo roam alot, and i take towers solo with alphas frequently (i can do it without, but it’s faster and easier with… note i didn’t say FAST… i said fastER). now i can’t, nor can others on my server who have done the same thing… so it is absolutely negatively affecting our matchup.

You know, anybody can build omega golems right? Hence, you too can build omega golems at your own keep to counter the enemy omega golems. All you have to do is bring them up the wall and shoot back down at the enemy omega golems. I don’t see the point of taking away omega golems. They are part of the game so learn to use them smartly for both offense and defense.

While it’s good that they disabled golems temporarily to prevent abuse, I hope they can fix it ASAP.

There are many easy strats for wiping golems. Several nights ago in EB, my medium sized zerg gutted a larger zerg AND 8 omegas headed for our keep.

This was thanks to some scouting, strategic placement of ACs on a cliff. We caught the bigger zerg and omegas, and then rained arrowy death on them. Soon it was our zerg vs a handful of battered omegas, which we cornered and dismantled through persistence.

All in all, I actually sort of think that golems (all types) need a way to -slowly- recover health, out of combat. Perhaps when not engaged in combat, they gain a weak regen buff?

I was wondering how we kept Keeps that we normally lose to Omega Rush by the server that already outnumbers us.

I too vote to leave them disabled. Maybe disable all Superior Siege and see how that goes for awhile.

Sup flame rams are cheaper and require less coordination. If you’re really getting night capped (as in no one is defending) then I don’t see why using omegas vs rams would make a difference

Can I just say kudos to the developers for even having the ability to disable using a particular kind of siege in an “emergency”?

Personally, I’d have no problem if I never saw another golem in WvW. This is one bug that I hope NEVER gets fixed! (Or it at least becomes one of those bugs that Anet sweeps under the rug for years.)

Great the bug was fixed

And the golems are fixed, so the germans can take it all again. And they did. Golems are so much fun to defend against……

And again whole day, golems golems golems. So much fun.

What are u complaining about? If they are rushing with golems, do the same. Or u can’t do that and want to take fun form those ppl? They play what they want and how they want so stop this PPT QQing. Btw. leading this way they should disable rams too, cos it is too hard to defend against them when whole blob is covering rams during day

The day golems we’re disabled was the only day my server was able to keep wp’s in their keeps against the bigger server lol.. I think that says alot… We we’re getting golem rushed like 3 or 4 times a day that week..

Kasteros.9847:

What are u complaining about? If they are rushing with golems, do the same. Or u can’t do that and want to take fun form those ppl? They play what they want and how they want so stop this PPT QQing. Btw. leading this way they should disable rams too, cos it is too hard to defend against them when whole blob is covering rams during day

Dont be stupid? They outnumber our server like 5-1 and still they come with like 10 golems at a time. And since when are rams overpowered? Do you even play this game?

I say get rid of all superior siege as well while we are at it.

aspirine.6852:

Kasteros.9847:

What are u complaining about? If they are rushing with golems, do the same. Or u can’t do that and want to take fun form those ppl? They play what they want and how they want so stop this PPT QQing. Btw. leading this way they should disable rams too, cos it is too hard to defend against them when whole blob is covering rams during day

Dont be stupid? They outnumber our server like 5-1 and still they come with like 10 golems at a time. And since when are rams overpowered? Do you even play this game?

Yep i play this for 3 years Ad what if they outnumber u? THis just means they have more ppl who enjoy night gaming, is it reason to take fun away from them? They just play what they want. It is ur fault for too low numbers. Maybe let’s disable WvW from 11 pm to 7 am.? Or better, since lot of ppl work during day and can’t defend let’s take fun from those that play during day cos they can do the same – outnumber with golems. Also don’t insult me, I’m not stupid, I just think about others not like u – u only care about yourself and ur fun

Kasteros.9847:

aspirine.6852:

Kasteros.9847:

What are u complaining about? If they are rushing with golems, do the same. Or u can’t do that and want to take fun form those ppl? They play what they want and how they want so stop this PPT QQing. Btw. leading this way they should disable rams too, cos it is too hard to defend against them when whole blob is covering rams during day

Dont be stupid? They outnumber our server like 5-1 and still they come with like 10 golems at a time. And since when are rams overpowered? Do you even play this game?

Yep i play this for 3 years Ad what if they outnumber u? THis just means they have more ppl who enjoy night gaming, is it reason to take fun away from them? They just play what they want. It is ur fault for too low numbers. Maybe let’s disable WvW from 11 pm to 7 am.? Or better, since lot of ppl work during day and can’t defend let’s take fun from those that play during day cos they can do the same – outnumber with golems. Also don’t insult me, I’m not stupid, I just think about others not like u – u only care about yourself and ur fun

Ah I see now, you are one of these german servers running nothing but blob and golems. Well if you call that fun taking out all those gates without a fight more power to ya.

aspirine.6852:

Kasteros.9847:

aspirine.6852:

Kasteros.9847:

What are u complaining about? If they are rushing with golems, do the same. Or u can’t do that and want to take fun form those ppl? They play what they want and how they want so stop this PPT QQing. Btw. leading this way they should disable rams too, cos it is too hard to defend against them when whole blob is covering rams during day

Dont be stupid? They outnumber our server like 5-1 and still they come with like 10 golems at a time. And since when are rams overpowered? Do you even play this game?

Yep i play this for 3 years Ad what if they outnumber u? THis just means they have more ppl who enjoy night gaming, is it reason to take fun away from them? They just play what they want. It is ur fault for too low numbers. Maybe let’s disable WvW from 11 pm to 7 am.? Or better, since lot of ppl work during day and can’t defend let’s take fun from those that play during day cos they can do the same – outnumber with golems. Also don’t insult me, I’m not stupid, I just think about others not like u – u only care about yourself and ur fun

Ah I see now, you are one of these german servers running nothing but blob and golems. Well if you call that fun taking out all those gates without a fight more power to ya.

Nah i play at deso I just don’t like when ppl want to take fun away from others It is just PPT man, stop complaining about it. Everyone play what they want and how they want.

Then how can you even comment on this, you play on a blob server. You have no idea how much unfun a golem run is taking your whole map and not a single thing you can do about it. Yeah well sounds like so much fun.

aspirine.6852:

Then how can you even comment on this, you play on a blob server. You have no idea how much unfun a golem run is taking your whole map and not a single thing you can do about it. Yeah well sounds like so much fun.

I’m playing deso NOW, earlier BT, RoS, GH, FSP. And i know the thing, i made lot of guild rushes at bt myself, but I’m not gonna accept that u want to take fun out of players cos u are uncomfortable with golems, use them yourself, simple.

Brilliant, use them ourselves. Why havent we thought about that. Lets see, perhaps if you have no camps you have no supps.. If you have no supps.. See where this is going?…

But apparantly we can get magically full supps, and build our golems. So now we have 4 golems and 12 people around it. And this is going to help against 40 with 10+ golems of course. I think your theory sounded better in your head than in practise

They have 40 ppl at 1 border? Just make golems at other and then rush, also 1 camp is 100 supps, 100 supps is 1 golem u can make 10 golems by capping 10 camps – which take u less than 20 mins to get 10 golems Man u don’t really know ppt tactics and u write about nefs for ppt and players that play what they want They can aswell write about u sieging them during day, when they have work

We are up against drakkar lake, they seem to have 50+ people on every map
Changing maps wont do anything but loose our bl even faster. They had a 50 people zerg sitting in hills all day yesterday. They love to ppt and waypoint mastery to 100 and waypoint back as soon as they have it. And since they somehow needed to be efficient or something they brought back more golems every time.

aspirine.6852:

We are up against drakkar lake, they seem to have 50+ people on every map
Changing maps wont do anything but loose our bl even faster. They had a 50 people zerg sitting in hills all day yesterday. They love to ppt and waypoint mastery to 100 and waypoint back as soon as they have it. And since they somehow needed to be efficient or something they brought back more golems every time.

So u wanna to ruin fun for 200 ppl( tbh i think there is 50 man blbo moving around all maps tho )? Since u can’t put up enough ppl? Or what? Make ur server put same numbers and everything will be fine And yes i played against DL, we just put numbers during night too and all was fine;). As i wrote if u wanna disable golems, then we might also disable rams during day, cos it is hard for some ppl to defend against it during day

if you take out golems then you have to take out acs too.

Stand The Wall.6987:

if you take out golems then you have to take out acs too.

Weird, golems vs ac’s. I’d say the golem wins quite easily. Ac dies before it even can get manned.

Kasteros.9847:

aspirine.6852:

We are up against drakkar lake, they seem to have 50+ people on every map
Changing maps wont do anything but loose our bl even faster. They had a 50 people zerg sitting in hills all day yesterday. They love to ppt and waypoint mastery to 100 and waypoint back as soon as they have it. And since they somehow needed to be efficient or something they brought back more golems every time.

So u wanna to ruin fun for 200 ppl( tbh i think there is 50 man blbo moving around all maps tho )? Since u can’t put up enough ppl? Or what? Make ur server put same numbers and everything will be fine And yes i played against DL, we just put numbers during night too and all was fine;). As i wrote if u wanna disable golems, then we might also disable rams during day, cos it is hard for some ppl to defend against it during day

Funny you should say that, and yet you do the same about the new stability changes. People like the new stability, why do you want to spoil it for so many people? See?…

i hate arrowcart more than golem, hate it when ppl drop them in open field and hide behind them….

aspirine.6852:

Kasteros.9847:

aspirine.6852:

We are up against drakkar lake, they seem to have 50+ people on every map
Changing maps wont do anything but loose our bl even faster. They had a 50 people zerg sitting in hills all day yesterday. They love to ppt and waypoint mastery to 100 and waypoint back as soon as they have it. And since they somehow needed to be efficient or something they brought back more golems every time.

So u wanna to ruin fun for 200 ppl( tbh i think there is 50 man blbo moving around all maps tho )? Since u can’t put up enough ppl? Or what? Make ur server put same numbers and everything will be fine And yes i played against DL, we just put numbers during night too and all was fine;). As i wrote if u wanna disable golems, then we might also disable rams during day, cos it is hard for some ppl to defend against it during day

Funny you should say that, and yet you do the same about the new stability changes. People like the new stability, why do you want to spoil it for so many people? See?…

Emm who like it? I see topics that hate it only also let’s not offtop and this topic is about siege and golems, not about stabillity, if u wanna discuss it go to other topic