Guild Wars 2

Can we have an alternate set of Legendary armor or an alternate route to acquiring this set that involves wvw/pvp? I love PVP and WvW, not so much for PVE and that includes raids.

Maybe try doing the acquisition process in the same way “The Ascension” is. Kill X amount of invaders using a 3 different professions, Complete a specific WvW track x amount of times, trade in 10000 siege weapons, capture every single tower/keep/camp x amount of times.

Timegate it with maybe 100 Legendary stones that you can only get once a day from SM keep lord.

Would be nice to have.

Slow down there cowboy. We still waiting for our WvW exclusive backpiece. After that we can see unto another huge grind…

Jeknar.6184:

Slow down there cowboy. We still waiting for our WvW exclusive backpiece. After that we can see unto another huge grind…

YES!!!

I wish so badly we could get a awesome lookin cape or something.

Legendary sets must be acquired by person who invest a lot playing wvw ,not by a winning blob server it will be not fair to a non populated servers.

Taosa trust me you dont want capes too many clipping issues. Thats a can of worms you want to stay closed, unless its done perfectly and that’s a big stretch.

+1 this a thousand times.

I play this game a lot but i dont have the hours to raid every evening and gather a group, so WvW has become my new activity.

Considering WvW already lacks any Legendary item (or even ascended for that matter) adding the armor to it seems the most fitting. It will finally be a reward for those of us that play WvW and it will certainly draw in those that look for an armor set but cant raid, win – win.

Why should WvW get its own legendary armor set? Hell why should it even give an alternate way to earn the current legendary armor set?

Yes, WvW deserves its own legendary backpack but thats it imo. Legendary armor is a raid exclusive, and at least for now it needs to remain that way.

dragonrage.8921:

Taosa trust me you dont want capes too many clipping issues. Thats a can of worms you want to stay closed, unless its done perfectly and that’s a big stretch.

Judging by the armor/racial character models in the game presently … clipping would be an issue. Not that something like a cape isn’t easy to fix clipping for though, they did it well with gw1, but I have a funny feeling the people who made the capes in gw1 … are not necessarily the same who make the armor for the racial models of gw2

OriOri.8724:

Legendary armor is a raid exclusive, and at least for now it needs to remain that way.

Then it should only be usable in raids.

OriOri.8724:

Why should WvW get its own legendary armor set? Hell why should it even give an alternate way to earn the current legendary armor set?

Yes, WvW deserves its own legendary backpack but thats it imo. Legendary armor is a raid exclusive, and at least for now it needs to remain that way.

In my opinion why shouldn’t WvW get its own Legendary armor set? The only reason the legendary armor is raid exclusive right now was to make people actually play the raids… Don’t get me wrong I’m sure people would have still played the raid regardless but not even close to the amount that presently do.

Saying it needs to remain that way right now is ridiculous though. Them adding an alternative path for other parts of the game, not just raiders should have been implemented since the start.

lgutsl.3257:

OriOri.8724:

Why should WvW get its own legendary armor set? Hell why should it even give an alternate way to earn the current legendary armor set?

Yes, WvW deserves its own legendary backpack but thats it imo. Legendary armor is a raid exclusive, and at least for now it needs to remain that way.

In my opinion why shouldn’t WvW get its own Legendary armor set? The only reason the legendary armor is raid exclusive right now was to make people actually play the raids… Don’t get me wrong I’m sure people would have still played the raid regardless but not even close to the amount that presently do.

Saying it needs to remain that way right now is ridiculous though. Them adding an alternative path for other parts of the game, not just raiders should have been implemented since the start.

and they could make it so that you still have to buy hot to use it by simply putting items or the collection itself behind the provision line if there worry is that they would lose sales

Science.6709:

OriOri.8724:

Legendary armor is a raid exclusive, and at least for now it needs to remain that way.

Then it should only be usable in raids.

What a pointless suggestion. It does not give any stat advantages so of course it will be useable everywhere.
And the envoy armor will of course stay raid exclusive.

WvW still not even on the even playing ground as Raids, FOTM, or sPvP … poor poor WvW. Like the lil ol’ runt of the litter you not sure you gonna keep or not. Someone needs to let anet know that runt has the potential to be a K-9 lead… if you brush him up and give him some kibbles.

lgutsl.3257:

OriOri.8724:

Why should WvW get its own legendary armor set? Hell why should it even give an alternate way to earn the current legendary armor set?

Yes, WvW deserves its own legendary backpack but thats it imo. Legendary armor is a raid exclusive, and at least for now it needs to remain that way.

In my opinion why shouldn’t WvW get its own Legendary armor set? The only reason the legendary armor is raid exclusive right now was to make people actually play the raids… Don’t get me wrong I’m sure people would have still played the raid regardless but not even close to the amount that presently do.

Saying it needs to remain that way right now is ridiculous though. Them adding an alternative path for other parts of the game, not just raiders should have been implemented since the start.

Legendary armor is supposed to be hard to get, and right now Raids are the only part of the game that support that. You could just grind it out in WvW if you wanted to, which would cheapen the effort that others put into obtaining the armor from raids.

Besides, why tf should you not be forced to play Raids to get legendary armor? WvW players creamed their pants so hard with “justice” kittens when the GoB vendor was removed so that PvE players would be “forced” to WvW to get legendary weapons, and now you are asking for special treatment to avoid having to play a game mode you don’t like? That’s such hypocrisy!

Adding a method to obtain Legendary Armor through WvW will do nothing except cheapen it for people who Raided to get it. And considering the extremely high time and gold costs to make it, no actions should be done that cheapen that effort.

And btw this is coming from someone who hasn’t even stepped foot in a raid, this isn’t some elitist comment from someone who is just waiting for the next wing to come out so that I can finish the set.

OriOri.8724:

WvW players creamed their pants so hard with “justice” kittens when the GoB vendor was removed so that PvE players would be “forced” to WvW to get legendary weapons, and now you are asking for special treatment to avoid having to play a game mode you don’t like? That’s such hypocrisy!

So pve players should continue to be required to play wvw for gift of battle and wvwers should continue to be required to pve for legendary armor?

Imo people in wvw that didn’t want to be there shouldn’t be there. They should be given a pve way to get gob again so that they’re not a liability, troll or whiner in wvw and can continue to play the game in a way they enjoy.

There is literally no fair way to balance the difficulty difference between game modes. So each game mode should get their own exclusive rewards. This is especially true for WvW. Some weeks you get stomped, some weeks you dominate. The difficulty would also vary a lot between night time and prime time. You can never predict the difficulty.

So I dont mind WvW getting their own legendary armor set, but it never should be the same one as the raid legendary armor.

Yeah wvw should get their own legendary backpiece/armor set, not the other modes’ ones.

OriOri.8724:

lgutsl.3257:

OriOri.8724:

Why should WvW get its own legendary armor set? Hell why should it even give an alternate way to earn the current legendary armor set?

Yes, WvW deserves its own legendary backpack but thats it imo. Legendary armor is a raid exclusive, and at least for now it needs to remain that way.

In my opinion why shouldn’t WvW get its own Legendary armor set? The only reason the legendary armor is raid exclusive right now was to make people actually play the raids… Don’t get me wrong I’m sure people would have still played the raid regardless but not even close to the amount that presently do.

Saying it needs to remain that way right now is ridiculous though. Them adding an alternative path for other parts of the game, not just raiders should have been implemented since the start.

Legendary armor is supposed to be hard to get, and right now Raids are the only part of the game that support that. You could just grind it out in WvW if you wanted to, which would cheapen the effort that others put into obtaining the armor from raids.

Besides, why tf should you not be forced to play Raids to get legendary armor? WvW players creamed their pants so hard with “justice” kittens when the GoB vendor was removed so that PvE players would be “forced” to WvW to get legendary weapons, and now you are asking for special treatment to avoid having to play a game mode you don’t like? That’s such hypocrisy!

Adding a method to obtain Legendary Armor through WvW will do nothing except cheapen it for people who Raided to get it. And considering the extremely high time and gold costs to make it, no actions should be done that cheapen that effort.

And btw this is coming from someone who hasn’t even stepped foot in a raid, this isn’t some elitist comment from someone who is just waiting for the next wing to come out so that I can finish the set.

I am not the voice for people who play WvW. I love playing it the most but it is not the only thing I choose to play.

Like the op suggested, was in terms of WvW would have been the hard way to get the armor. Does it have to be the exactly the way he mentioned? No. I’m 100% sure Anet could have or already is implementing something similar for all non raiders. Saying it would cheapen the effort if they did do this is basically saying anybody who chooses not to raid, efforts to the game are meaningless in terms of Legendary armor. The complaining about elitist raiders is already proof that Anet is at least thinking of doing something that could work everybody else.

Now let me get this straight you’re comparing the one thing they put in WvW the gift of battle (about 8 hours) to an entire set of Legendary armor which takes months of work. Which was to create the Legendary weapons, in which you do realize used to have more to do with WvW but got taken away because people complained about that and still now complain about the GoB being on that (8 hour) reward track. Overall not a good comparison Imho.

Also I remember that issue and WvW players at least most I seen were not complaining about the people complaining about GoB vendor to track. The main issue at first regarding it was that people said they weren’t fully informed about the change from vendor to track.

Malediktus.3740:

There is literally no fair way to balance the difficulty difference between game modes. So each game mode should get their own exclusive rewards. This is especially true for WvW. Some weeks you get stomped, some weeks you dominate. The difficulty would also vary a lot between night time and prime time. You can never predict the difficulty.

So I dont mind WvW getting their own legendary armor set, but it never should be the same one as the raid legendary armor.

Even though I just posted that wall, this to me is a really awesome idea, but I’m quite sure Anet will not do this, and it probably isn’t even floating in their minds right now.

Lol but if this was to happen than obviously every game mode would expect a set of Legendary armor.

Well Im a WvW player and I wanted to start raids, but ofc all these pve heroes doesnt want new peoples in their group, so I can’t raid. xD

so having leg armor for WvW would be nice, indeed.

OriOri.8724:

lgutsl.3257:

OriOri.8724:

Why should WvW get its own legendary armor set? Hell why should it even give an alternate way to earn the current legendary armor set?

Yes, WvW deserves its own legendary backpack but thats it imo. Legendary armor is a raid exclusive, and at least for now it needs to remain that way.

In my opinion why shouldn’t WvW get its own Legendary armor set? The only reason the legendary armor is raid exclusive right now was to make people actually play the raids… Don’t get me wrong I’m sure people would have still played the raid regardless but not even close to the amount that presently do.

Saying it needs to remain that way right now is ridiculous though. Them adding an alternative path for other parts of the game, not just raiders should have been implemented since the start.

Legendary armor is supposed to be hard to get, and right now Raids are the only part of the game that support that. You could just grind it out in WvW if you wanted to, which would cheapen the effort that others put into obtaining the armor from raids.

Besides, why tf should you not be forced to play Raids to get legendary armor? WvW players creamed their pants so hard with “justice” kittens when the GoB vendor was removed so that PvE players would be “forced” to WvW to get legendary weapons, and now you are asking for special treatment to avoid having to play a game mode you don’t like? That’s such hypocrisy!

Adding a method to obtain Legendary Armor through WvW will do nothing except cheapen it for people who Raided to get it. And considering the extremely high time and gold costs to make it, no actions should be done that cheapen that effort.

And btw this is coming from someone who hasn’t even stepped foot in a raid, this isn’t some elitist comment from someone who is just waiting for the next wing to come out so that I can finish the set.

Requiring a WvW player to reach certain WvW levels could be used to simulate the time that a raider would put in to obtain the various parts of a legendary. For me, it does not matter so much because I can make ascended with the stats I need, the legendaries are just eye candy.

Malediktus.3740:

Science.6709:

OriOri.8724:

Legendary armor is a raid exclusive, and at least for now it needs to remain that way.

Then it should only be usable in raids.

What a pointless suggestion. It does not give any stat advantages so of course it will be useable everywhere.
And the envoy armor will of course stay raid exclusive.

tbh legendary armour makes more sense in wvw as we have to stat change so many more times, unlike pve were you just run zerk

OriOri.8724:

Why should WvW get its own legendary armor set? Hell why should it even give an alternate way to earn the current legendary armor set?

Yes, WvW deserves its own legendary backpack but thats it imo. Legendary armor is a raid exclusive, and at least for now it needs to remain that way.

Because … Only raiders need to switch their stats.

it’s a bit like give them the finger and they want the hand. With the reward tracks wvw now is actually really worth playing. We can even make legendaries without ever having played dungeons.

I would of course like everything, they add to wvw, make wvw exclusive skins etc, but I think we don’t really need legendary armor in wvw. Raids are very very difficult, a difficulty that cannot be “produced”/controlled in wvw. I don’t think it would be fair to get a legendary just by playing the game in zergs/guild groups like I do and I don’t think I need it. Legendaries are only cosmetical and we are already able to change the stats on our ascended armor if we so chose. And it is incredibly cheap to do so.

Svarty.8019:

OriOri.8724:

Why should WvW get its own legendary armor set? Hell why should it even give an alternate way to earn the current legendary armor set?

Yes, WvW deserves its own legendary backpack but thats it imo. Legendary armor is a raid exclusive, and at least for now it needs to remain that way.

Because … Only raiders need to switch their stats.

Legendary armor is kittening expensive. You could craft entire new ascended sets for the 3 or 4 different stats you may need in WvW and not come close to the cost of making a full legendary armor set. I don’t see how legendary armor actually helps you in this regard at all

OriOri.8724:

Svarty.8019:

OriOri.8724:

Why should WvW get its own legendary armor set? Hell why should it even give an alternate way to earn the current legendary armor set?

Yes, WvW deserves its own legendary backpack but thats it imo. Legendary armor is a raid exclusive, and at least for now it needs to remain that way.

Because … Only raiders need to switch their stats.

Legendary armor is kittening expensive. You could craft entire new ascended sets for the 3 or 4 different stats you may need in WvW and not come close to the cost of making a full legendary armor set. I don’t see how legendary armor actually helps you in this regard at all

The spectrum of bloat we have to counter after HoT because raiders need their power creep and they need an kitten nal of passives so they don’t totally choke when they need to make one specific jump leaves us with more trash builds that are more intense. WvW players actually have a need to change stats on the move. How does Legendary armor help someone in a raid instance when they’re likely to only need one set of ascended stats all the way through? One grind is as good as another.