Guild Wars 2

Hi, Arenanet. I have something simple to say:

I am in Jade Quarry server for a reason, to play in T1, and I have 3 weeks playing, owning and boring servers that are not T1 level.

Just that, bye.

Waha thanks you for your support, remember to donate your omegas prints for when you outnumber by 3 to 1.

I also have something simple to say:

There are no tiers. Anet remove them.

Just that. Sorry.

Agreed, there are tiers, look at leaderboards, it says Jade Quarry Tier – 2. I support the poster, JQ Is definatly t1 server, look at the total wins and I think the next match of T1 BETTER BE JQ/SoR/BG.

JQ is not a tier 1 server. Only reason they are even in T2 is because of that SEA coverage. TC is superior to them.

RNG plays a factor in matchups, but so does rating. Slip below a certain rating level and be at the mercy of RNG. It appears to be more wildly skewed in EU more so than NA, but there have been servers “stuck” in lopsided matches for months. Three weeks is not long. It’s just JQ’s turn.

It’s always funny to read all that comments about “there are no tiers”, “JQ is not t1”.

Of course there are tiers, no discussion. T1 is pink color.
https://leaderboards.guildwars2.com/en/na/wvw

About JQ not being T1, well, that’s the first server that comes to my mind when someone ask about tiers, it’s a very obvious tier 1 server. Actually the only real T1 if you ask me, the others depend of one guild, and stay in T1 for some weeks or months and then go to bottom (if that guild leave, disband or transfer). That never happen to JQ.

I think the new matching system is bad, even when I’m (we’re) winning.
http://imgur.com/wIVipUI
http://mos.millenium.org/na

What is jq without ATM?

JJBigs.8456:

Agreed, there are tiers, look at leaderboards, it says Jade Quarry Tier – 2. I support the poster, JQ Is definatly t1 server, look at the total wins and I think the next match of T1 BETTER BE JQ/SoR/BG.

We don’t need more of that. It would be FAR more productive if we could get something like:

BG/JQ/X or SoR/JQ/X

the X’s not being SoR or BG, relatively.

At this point we need to know where JQ stands as far as being a top 3 server. They PROBABLY fit the bill just fine, but it would be interesting to see how that goes. If it’s BG/SoR/JQ, it’ll just be the same thing it’s been with TC and DB. BG and SoR dominate the match, while the other is just kind of there.

NeHoMaR.9812:

Hi, Arenanet. I have something simple to say:

I am in Jade Quarry server for a reason, to play in T1, and I have 3 weeks playing, owning and boring servers that are not T1 level.

Just that, bye.

Quit whining. No one really cares.

The issue is BG and SoR are at their own level right now. No one compares with them coverage wise.

JQ is good. The issue is that they have a tier 1 coverage on SEA and a tier 2 coverage in NA.

Clockradio.3257:

It would be FAR more productive if we could get something like:

BG/JQ/X or SoR/JQ/X

the X’s not being SoR or BG, relatively.

Agree. This could sound arrogant or something, but is not my intention: JQ must be “sticked” on the top in the matching system.

Is not only for the good of JQ, is for the good of ALL community. Doesn’t matter if JQ is superior or is not superior, or if a server is better or not, is pure logic: JQ in the second team is obviously not good for WvW.

You cannot make a “Mike Tyson vs Óscar de la Hoya” match, and is not because Tyson is “better” or “superior” or “tier 1”, is because he is bigger and stronger.

For example, Maguuma is not even trying to fight us, they should be playing PvE/sPvP or another game if they play WvW only.

Anyway, I created this thread in a personal way, not to discuss server superiority, as title say: “Let me play in T1”. That’s all I want, give me a free temporal transfer to BG or SoR, or rollback that bad matching system for the next match.

style.6173:

Quit whining. No one really cares.

That’s a typo? you mean “winning”? I am on JQ. Hahaha!

It’s ok jq anet will take your training wheels off in a few weeks wouldn’t want you to skin your knee now would we.

Now go get’em champ!!!

style.6173:

JQ is good. The issue is that they have a tier 1 coverage on SEA and a tier 2 coverage in NA.

Their NA is more like T3. The only reason they have been able to compete against the T2 servers during NA is because their SEA hands them fully upgraded structures and leaves the other servers with paper ones.

Mada.5319:

JQ is not a tier 1 server. Only reason they are even in T2 is because of that SEA coverage. TC is superior to them.

JQ > TC. TC got crushed when they played against JQ.

fishball.7204:

Mada.5319:

JQ is not a tier 1 server. Only reason they are even in T2 is because of that SEA coverage. TC is superior to them.

JQ > TC. TC got crushed when they played against JQ.

JQ SEA is beastmode. TC lacks SEA. From what I remember from MOS, timezones TC have a good number in the scores were pretty darn close. It makes a huge difference in the final score if ANY server can take stuff that’s relatively undefended and hold it for several hours without anyone trying to get the points back.

By any value given, except maybe for total number of WvW players, JQ is the #3 Server. Obviously our Sea, as pointed out above, is Beastmode. As hard core as our EU players are, there are simply too few of them. That’s why the hand off to NA isn’t where we’d like it to be. For our NA, are you kidding, we’ve lead reset nights against SoR and BG. It’s just getting us all on and not goofing off

Except for BG, JQ, and DB, I think every server complains, if only we had Sea. Well, the opposite can be said for JQ. If we had just a few more to join our EU/NA.

For everyone outside of T1, instead of complaining about SoR and BG’s coverage, get your kittens over here to JQ and take them on!

Hi I’m on TC. I’ve been on TC for a long time now. I’m sick of the stupid lagfest 80+ sized zergballs in T1. I like being able to use a skill other than 1. Please shove JQ back to T1 with the others that apparently enjoy this rubbish. They need to be quarantined and kept away from the general population to prevent the further spread of this. Thanks.

Aberrant.6749:

Hi I’m on TC. I’ve been on TC for a long time now. I’m sick of the stupid lagfest 80+ sized zergballs in T1. I like being able to use a skill other than 1. Please shove JQ back to T1 with the others that apparently enjoy this rubbish. They need to be quarantined and kept away from the general population to prevent the further spread of this. Thanks.

XD

Aberrant.6749:

Hi I’m on TC. I’ve been on TC for a long time now. I’m sick of the stupid lagfest 80+ sized zergballs in T1. I like being able to use a skill other than 1. Please shove JQ back to T1 with the others that apparently enjoy this rubbish. They need to be quarantined and kept away from the general population to prevent the further spread of this. Thanks.

Interesting analysis, however I happen to know that a lot of T1 guilds run fairly complicated builds and a “skill 1 spam” would end up with you being a loot bag on the floor. A more accurate number as far as group size is concerned would be 30-50. It’s pretty rare outside of karma trains or multiple forces combining to take a well defended target to see 60+ players in a single group.

If your guild or a commander you follow is suggesting that you just stand there and spam “1”, I suggest finding a new guild or commander to follow.

Clockradio.3257:

Aberrant.6749:

Hi I’m on TC. I’ve been on TC for a long time now. I’m sick of the stupid lagfest 80+ sized zergballs in T1. I like being able to use a skill other than 1. Please shove JQ back to T1 with the others that apparently enjoy this rubbish. They need to be quarantined and kept away from the general population to prevent the further spread of this. Thanks.

Interesting analysis, however I happen to know that a lot of T1 guilds run fairly complicated builds and a “skill 1 spam” would end up with you being a loot bag on the floor. A more accurate number as far as group size is concerned would be 30-50. It’s pretty rare outside of karma trains or multiple forces combining to take a well defended target to see 60+ players in a single group.

If your guild or a commander you follow is suggesting that you just stand there and spam “1”, I suggest finding a new guild or commander to follow.

T1 NA often lags to the point to where you can’t use any skill other than 1… even if you’re away from the fight. That’s what I’m referring to. It’s pretty rare that I see a non-roaming/havoc group as “small” as 30. 50+ is hardly uncommon.

Aberrant.6749:

Clockradio.3257:

Aberrant.6749:

Hi I’m on TC. I’ve been on TC for a long time now. I’m sick of the stupid lagfest 80+ sized zergballs in T1. I like being able to use a skill other than 1. Please shove JQ back to T1 with the others that apparently enjoy this rubbish. They need to be quarantined and kept away from the general population to prevent the further spread of this. Thanks.

Interesting analysis, however I happen to know that a lot of T1 guilds run fairly complicated builds and a “skill 1 spam” would end up with you being a loot bag on the floor. A more accurate number as far as group size is concerned would be 30-50. It’s pretty rare outside of karma trains or multiple forces combining to take a well defended target to see 60+ players in a single group.

If your guild or a commander you follow is suggesting that you just stand there and spam “1”, I suggest finding a new guild or commander to follow.

T1 NA often lags to the point to where you can’t use any skill other than 1… even if you’re away from the fight. That’s what I’m referring to.

Often? I rarely see lag unless there’s a 3 way keep battle or I’m on EB (hate that map). If this happens to you all the time, I would suggest looking into a better internet connection. However it could just be your geolocation in relation to the ANET servers.

Clockradio.3257:

Aberrant.6749:

Clockradio.3257:

Aberrant.6749:

Hi I’m on TC. I’ve been on TC for a long time now. I’m sick of the stupid lagfest 80+ sized zergballs in T1. I like being able to use a skill other than 1. Please shove JQ back to T1 with the others that apparently enjoy this rubbish. They need to be quarantined and kept away from the general population to prevent the further spread of this. Thanks.

Interesting analysis, however I happen to know that a lot of T1 guilds run fairly complicated builds and a “skill 1 spam” would end up with you being a loot bag on the floor. A more accurate number as far as group size is concerned would be 30-50. It’s pretty rare outside of karma trains or multiple forces combining to take a well defended target to see 60+ players in a single group.

If your guild or a commander you follow is suggesting that you just stand there and spam “1”, I suggest finding a new guild or commander to follow.

T1 NA often lags to the point to where you can’t use any skill other than 1… even if you’re away from the fight. That’s what I’m referring to.

Often? I rarely see lag unless there’s a 3 way keep battle or I’m on EB (hate that map). If this happens to you all the time, I would suggest looking into a better internet connection. However it could just be your geolocation in relation to the ANET servers.

Often as in multiple times daily. Yes it mostly happens in EB, but I’ve had it happen on every map since we’ve been in T1. I don’t like not being able to play a map because of this sort of thing. I find the other BL’s to be a bit more simple than EB.

My internet is fine and close to the server, it’s that the servers can’t handle the number of players. I don’t believe that laggy internet behaves in the same way. When I was at a friends place (who had bad net) it would do things more like rubberband vs. have skills lock up. Ty for your concern though.

Sigh no one even giggled at my training wheels post /tears. JQ 1 Some guy being a Jerk 0

Clockradio.3257:

Aberrant.6749:

Clockradio.3257:

Aberrant.6749:

Hi I’m on TC. I’ve been on TC for a long time now. I’m sick of the stupid lagfest 80+ sized zergballs in T1. I like being able to use a skill other than 1. Please shove JQ back to T1 with the others that apparently enjoy this rubbish. They need to be quarantined and kept away from the general population to prevent the further spread of this. Thanks.

Interesting analysis, however I happen to know that a lot of T1 guilds run fairly complicated builds and a “skill 1 spam” would end up with you being a loot bag on the floor. A more accurate number as far as group size is concerned would be 30-50. It’s pretty rare outside of karma trains or multiple forces combining to take a well defended target to see 60+ players in a single group.

If your guild or a commander you follow is suggesting that you just stand there and spam “1”, I suggest finding a new guild or commander to follow.

T1 NA often lags to the point to where you can’t use any skill other than 1… even if you’re away from the fight. That’s what I’m referring to.

Often? I rarely see lag unless there’s a 3 way keep battle or I’m on EB (hate that map). If this happens to you all the time, I would suggest looking into a better internet connection. However it could just be your geolocation in relation to the ANET servers.

Agreed. The lag difference between tier 1 and tier 2 isn’t that much

fishball.7204:

Mada.5319:

JQ is not a tier 1 server. Only reason they are even in T2 is because of that SEA coverage. TC is superior to them.

JQ > TC. TC got crushed when they played against JQ.

Look at the finals scores again. Give TC a few more matchups with JQ and I guarantee they will end up winning. TC did it to Kaineng and DB, they’ll do it to JQ as well.

JQJQJQJQJQJQJQ tier 1 for life. JQ=most #1 overall weeks in a row, catch up SoR+BG

Mada.5319:

fishball.7204:

Mada.5319:

JQ is not a tier 1 server. Only reason they are even in T2 is because of that SEA coverage. TC is superior to them.

JQ > TC. TC got crushed when they played against JQ.

Look at the finals scores again. Give TC a few more matchups with JQ and I guarantee they will end up winning. TC did it to Kaineng and DB, they’ll do it to JQ as well.

LOL TC is bad

Let’s be honest folks. Every server (including Anvil Rock, Ferguson’s Crossing, etc ) deserves a chance to face SOR and BG in the same match. Everyone needs this experience so we can liven up the message boards in WvW and get the developers to wake up and perhaps make some changes. Who knows? Maybe Anet will fix lagging for good. Maybe Anet finally figures out how to balance the game???

JQ and TC needs to stop being so greedy to get that many chances to face SOR & BG. Besides, I don’t want to resort to pounding 1 key again. It’s boring and any 3 year old can do with ease. I rather see more of a JQ and TC matchup until either one server starts to totally dominate. If I recall, both servers had a semi close match?

SleepingDragon.1596:

Let’s be honest folks. Every server (including Anvil Rock, Ferguson’s Crossing, etc ) deserves a chance to face SOR and BG in the same match. Everyone needs this experience so we can liven up the message boards in WvW and get the developers to wake up and perhaps make some changes. Who knows? Maybe Anet will fix lagging for good. Maybe Anet finally figures out how to balance the game???

JQ and TC needs to stop being so greedy to get that many chances to face SOR & BG. Besides, I don’t want to resort to pounding 1 key again. It’s boring and any 3 year old can do with ease. I rather see more of a JQ and TC matchup until either one server starts to totally dominate. If I recall, both servers had a semi close match?

They said they are working on it but it’s still in the brainstorming phase. I wouldn’t expect any fixes anytime soon

SleepingDragon.1596:

Let’s be honest folks. Every server (including Anvil Rock, Ferguson’s Crossing, etc ) deserves a chance to face SOR and BG in the same match. Everyone needs this experience so we can liven up the message boards in WvW and get the developers to wake up and perhaps make some changes. Who knows? Maybe Anet will fix lagging for good. Maybe Anet finally figures out how to balance the game???

JQ and TC needs to stop being so greedy to get that many chances to face SOR & BG. Besides, I don’t want to resort to pounding 1 key again. It’s boring and any 3 year old can do with ease. I rather see more of a JQ and TC matchup until either one server starts to totally dominate. If I recall, both servers had a semi close match?

LOL,get a chance to face SoR and BG? SoR and BG are mostly old JQ players who left because they QQ too much

As opposed to chest thumping?

Coverage wins matches, regardless of it being t1 or t8, na or eu.

Bar certain cmdrs, the individual zergling has almost zero influence on the outcome of a match.

But I suppose some egos cant look past their own reflections.

Rawr.5930:

As opposed to chest thumping?

Coverage wins matches, regardless of it being t1 or t8, na or eu.

Bar certain cmdrs, the individual zergling has almost zero influence on the outcome of a match.

But I suppose some egos cant look past their own reflections.

my ego is huge

Of that, no doubt.

On another note, Jq and Tc are in a wierd limbo now where matches are outmanned or outmanning, I think generally speaking the jq militia are more battle hardened as theyve been in the t1 environment for longer while the tc militia have dealt only with roflstomp situations for the 6 plus weeks prior.

Interesting to see how easy matches erode good habits and build bad ones.

Are the guilds in JQ desperate to be T1 champs again? Because I don’t think JQ is the right server to achieve it with. The fairweather population is just too obscenely high.

Rawr.5930:

Of that, no doubt.

On another note, Jq and Tc are in a wierd limbo now where matches are outmanned or outmanning, I think generally speaking the jq militia are more battle hardened as theyve been in the t1 environment for longer while the tc militia have dealt only with roflstomp situations for the 6 plus weeks prior.

Interesting to see how easy matches erode good habits and build bad ones.

TC had a lot of people join as of late and many of those only come out when we’re winning. This is pretty common for most servers, but TC used to get more people on doing havoc etc. if we weren’t doing well instead of people bailing. I liked that

TC’s sea has always been weak though. A while ago the dev’s said something along the lines of that they didn’t like how the last side to go to sleep had a huge advantage. We’ll see if/what comes from that for both JQ and TC.

Personally I don’t care who wins though, I would much rather have a good, close, nail-biting fight vs smashing. Those are the fights that can get my blood going and those are the fights when I learn things ^^

Sharpoon.8197:

Are the guilds in JQ desperate to be T1 champs again? Because I don’t think JQ is the right server to achieve it with. The fairweather population is just too obscenely high.

The same can be said about any server. When they’re winning or can manage to outblob another, everyone will show up acting like they’re just that good. Even large guilds are no different. When the going gets tough, they’ll run to another server. Ask any of the servers that fell out of favor. They lose guilds once they are no longer dominating.

SleepingDragon.1596:

Sharpoon.8197:

Are the guilds in JQ desperate to be T1 champs again? Because I don’t think JQ is the right server to achieve it with. The fairweather population is just too obscenely high.

The same can be said about any server. When they’re winning or can manage to outblob another, everyone will show up acting like they’re just that good. Even large guilds are no different. When the going gets tough, they’ll run to another server. Ask any of the servers that fell out of favor. They lose guilds once they are no longer dominating.

Actually, it’s server politics and BS drama that caused servers like SoS and HoD to fall.

The system is better the way it is.

Seems like half the problems in tier 1 are basically “we transferred too many people into our server”.

The only reason JQ couldn’t stand there own against SoR and BG last time is because they would team against us, like quite literally attack the same point at the same time, knock us out and then fight for it.

Vuziiness.9458:

The only reason JQ couldn’t stand there own against SoR and BG last time is because they would team against us, like quite literally attack the same point at the same time, knock us out and then fight for it.

Aww, that was cute.

Vuziiness.9458:

The only reason JQ couldn’t stand there own against SoR and BG last time is because they would team against us, like quite literally attack the same point at the same time, knock us out and then fight for it.

JQ hasn’t been a serious threat for some time.

Several of us on BG wanted to get you to double team SoR with us since they were more of a threat. If you got double teamed, you all did something wrong.

Vuziiness.9458:

The only reason JQ couldn’t stand there own against SoR and BG last time is because they would team against us, like quite literally attack the same point at the same time, knock us out and then fight for it.

It’s well known that BG has no love for SoR (to say the least). I would be shocked to see them work together. I’ve seen BG almost always hit SoR when the opportunity to hit either TC or SoR presented itself at the same time. BG dislikes SoR as much as TC dislikes FA.

Aberrant.6749:

Vuziiness.9458:

The only reason JQ couldn’t stand there own against SoR and BG last time is because they would team against us, like quite literally attack the same point at the same time, knock us out and then fight for it.

It’s well known that BG has no love for SoR (to say the least). I would be shocked to see them work together. I’ve seen BG almost always hit SoR when the opportunity to hit either TC or SoR presented itself at the same time. BG dislikes SoR as much as TC dislikes FA.

TC isn’t really a threat. They can put up a map zerg, but SoR is still more dangerous than TC.

When you have the potential like SoR, you’ll have that bullseye painted on your back.

NeHoMaR.9812:

Clockradio.3257:

It would be FAR more productive if we could get something like:

BG/JQ/X or SoR/JQ/X

the X’s not being SoR or BG, relatively.

Agree. This could sound arrogant or something, but is not my intention: JQ must be “sticked” on the top in the matching system.

Is not only for the good of JQ, is for the good of ALL community. Doesn’t matter if JQ is superior or is not superior, or if a server is better or not, is pure logic: JQ in the second team is obviously not good for WvW.

You cannot make a “Mike Tyson vs Óscar de la Hoya” match, and is not because Tyson is “better” or “superior” or “tier 1”, is because he is bigger and stronger.

For example, Maguuma is not even trying to fight us, they should be playing PvE/sPvP or another game if they play WvW only.

Anyway, I created this thread in a personal way, not to discuss server superiority, as title say: “Let me play in T1”. That’s all I want, give me a free temporal transfer to BG or SoR, or rollback that bad matching system for the next match.

style.6173:

Quit whining. No one really cares.

That’s a typo? you mean “winning”? I am on JQ. Hahaha!

Oh! I see, this is a joke thread! Hahaha, tricked me good

Aberrant.6749:

Hi I’m on TC. I’ve been on TC for a long time now. I’m sick of the stupid lagfest 80+ sized zergballs in T1. I like being able to use a skill other than 1. Please shove JQ back to T1 with the others that apparently enjoy this rubbish. They need to be quarantined and kept away from the general population to prevent the further spread of this. Thanks.

No, don’t you put that evil on me!

Oh yeah! look at this “joke”, we have +100 golems in SM:

http://imgur.com/9P27jep

be willing to pay 30g / week to transfer in to a t1 server.

play t1 all the time.

some weeks youll get lucky and save 30g.

problem?

Clockradio.3257:

Actually, it’s server politics and BS drama that caused servers like SoS and HoD to fall.

Yes, it’s that and a combination of various factors… SoS was an awesome server and the community there is great. Only reason I left that server was the “bandwagon” mentality before free transfers are over. I saw SOS internal issues with WvW guilds which points to an eventual fall of the titan. PRX, RG, SF at that time was planning to move over to JQ was a big plus to the “bandwagon” mentality. I’ve followed PRX around ever since their departure from HOD. RG was another guild that I totally respected and I witness them wipe huge SOR/BG/SOS blobs. It was also interesting to see FOO again since the last time I played with them was in ET.

So the truth comes out and we all know that everyone says, points and winning don’t matter… but what’s said and done is a different story. Everyone wants to win, but if a lost is due to being outplayed it’s fine and you can swallow that pill easily. Being outblob and outmashed on the “1” key isn’t the way you feel is justifiable. Some people feel they accomplish greatness when they manage to outblob another and chest thumping happens. I’m sure these are 5-10 year old kids, or perhaps their brains are around that age???

SleepingDragon.1596:

Some people feel they accomplish greatness when they manage to outblob another and chest thumping happens. I’m sure these are 5-10 year old kids, or perhaps their brains are around that age???

In my line of work, I meet a lot of people. One thing I’ve noticed over time is that some people are just very childish.

i see the op’s point though. yesterday when jq had the entire mapat around 2am pst i was wondering what they wanted to do next as they already have everything. we were teamed up with mag and eb one time and at night when our oceanics starts, we owned most of the maps and it was boring. but we are a t2 server not t1. right now a t1 server i matched up with a t2 and t3 server. last week was better as db has a good sea coverage and at least gave jq something to do.

but if u are bored, u might wanna try a different server for a few weeks so u can get more challenge than just 1 giant blob and a smaller blob taking an entire map within 30 min(apart from garrison, we like to turtle up there ;-)