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Posted by: Kuthos.9623

Kuthos.9623

Not a huge problem per say but it does need to be fixed….

People logging out when they go down. Cheesy and cowardly, but it does prevent you from getting badges from them which is annoying.

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Posted by: Blacklisted.9365

Blacklisted.9365

I was under the impression there is a 10 second timer before they are logged out… so you should still be able to kill them in that time. I do know that it saves that person from any repair costs though.

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Posted by: Kuthos.9623

Kuthos.9623

No, I’ve downed numerous people before and they vanish into thin air. Not thieves or mesmers either.

I’m not sure what -exactly- they’re doing, maybe alt-F4 heh. It’s just a lame tactic to avoid a death.

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Posted by: spacemayu.4817

spacemayu.4817

No, I’ve downed numerous people before and they vanish into thin air. Not thieves or mesmers either.

I’m not sure what -exactly- they’re doing, maybe alt-F4 heh. It’s just a lame tactic to avoid a death.

You don’t avoid death.

When you log back in your character is dead in Lion’s Arch.

All it does is prevent the enemy getting the kill.

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Posted by: Vorpal.4683

Vorpal.4683

Yep. It’s just a way to prevent the enemy from getting some badges. Same as jumping off a cliff to your death.

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Posted by: Kuthos.9623

Kuthos.9623

No, I’ve downed numerous people before and they vanish into thin air. Not thieves or mesmers either.

I’m not sure what -exactly- they’re doing, maybe alt-F4 heh. It’s just a lame tactic to avoid a death.

You don’t avoid death.

When you log back in your character is dead in Lion’s Arch.

All it does is prevent the enemy getting the kill.

Ah that part I didn’t know, because I’ve never tried it. That does make it kind of hilarious actually. I guess if you’re that determined to not give someone badges whatever. Just seems like they’re embarrased because they got caught and died or got owned in a 1v1 or 2v1 most of the time.

Cliff jumping can be a little different, because sometimes you can get people to follow you off the cliff which is a win.

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Posted by: theguildless.1386

theguildless.1386

Yep. It’s just a way to prevent the enemy from getting some badges. Same as jumping off a cliff to your death.

This happened to me many many times, and I am 99.99% sure you still get loot as long as you dealt sufficient damage to the player before the jump.

As for logging out, I remember seeing a dev post somewhere stating they were investigating this.

Always question your assumptions.
Tarnished Coast

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Posted by: Daevinia.9184

Daevinia.9184

When there is a queue there is a downside to doing it, the wait.

But the lack of satisfaction of being deprived of a kill is really kitten!


~ nothing is constant but change~

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Posted by: Daish.6139

Daish.6139

what happens if you jump off a cliff and log before you hit the ground

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Posted by: Ianervan.3415

Ianervan.3415

I started doing this after seeing others. But I only do it sometimes, like when fighting a thief who does his perma-stealth kitten over and over.. I’m sorry but I don’t feel that deserves any reward. Same when invisible zerg jumps on me. I’m not going to pay repair costs because the game is broken.

Advantages to ALT+F4 strategy:

  • You pay no repair costs
  • Your enemy gets no badges

When you login back to the game you’re dead but a good trick is to be in one of the big towns when going into WvW. In that case you don’t need to wait for others to rez you. Instead, you use one of the waypoints in that same town, which costs nothing. There isn’t even a loading screen.

Unemployed people should not receive any social benefits if they are already working in an MMO.

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Posted by: grind.3681

grind.3681

I started doing this after seeing others. But I only do it sometimes, like when fighting a thief who does his perma-stealth kitten over and over.. I’m sorry but I don’t feel that deserves any reward. Same when invisible zerg jumps on me. I’m not going to pay repair costs because the game is broken.

Advantages to ALT+F4 strategy:

  • You pay no repair costs
  • Your enemy gets no badges

When you login back to the game you’re dead but a good trick is to be in one of the big towns when going into WvW. In that case you don’t need to wait for others to rez you. Instead, you use one of the waypoints in that same town, which costs nothing. There isn’t even a loading screen.

hahahahahahahaha

piken square,necrosis

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Posted by: Zero.6507

Zero.6507

So they log out, a real pvper gets pass queue, we all win.

Desolation

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Posted by: Ianervan.3415

Ianervan.3415

What queue? Most servers don’t have a queue these days, and even if they have it, it’s only few hours of prime time. And there will be less and less of queues as time passes. You don’t have to worry about queue unless you just joined the Server of the Week.

Non-WvW focused servers won’t have a queue, and WvW focused servers are moving towards 24/7 coverage which means a population spread, and thus no or less queue.

Unemployed people should not receive any social benefits if they are already working in an MMO.

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Posted by: grind.3681

grind.3681

1 silver for repair is already carebear price for loosing ,imagine those guyz in a hardcore game

piken square,necrosis

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Posted by: Siofra Crumble.2098

Siofra Crumble.2098

I started doing this after seeing others. But I only do it sometimes, like when fighting a thief who does his perma-stealth kitten over and over.. I’m sorry but I don’t feel that deserves any reward. Same when invisible zerg jumps on me. I’m not going to pay repair costs because the game is broken.

Advantages to ALT+F4 strategy:

  • You pay no repair costs
  • Your enemy gets no badges

When you login back to the game you’re dead but a good trick is to be in one of the big towns when going into WvW. In that case you don’t need to wait for others to rez you. Instead, you use one of the waypoints in that same town, which costs nothing. There isn’t even a loading screen.

hahahahahahahaha

²nd the laughter.
I’ve seen this happening a lot lately.
Especially during the off-hours when there are no lines to get back in.
I don’t care much about kill count or badges so it doesn’t bother me all that much.
I just feel people who do this are cowards and really don’t show much sportsmanship.
Being a sour loser is silly. Hell, even I get swarmed by an entire zerg while dealing with an enemy I still don’t alt-F4.
Why would I? The repair cost is no big deal. Kill 5 mobs and you’ve earned it back.
I hate loading screens more.

And if a thief nails me, he deserved the kill.
And if a thief nails you, he deserved the kill.

The worst part is I’ve seen people alt-F4’ing while running away from me.
Not warping (still in combat), not stealthing, just plain exiting.

People who take off their armor while running away are funny tho’.

And this has been said before, but I’ll confirm it.
People jumping off a cliff will still give you a kill and loot bag if you damaged them enough.

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Posted by: grind.3681

grind.3681

tbh i have seen this only from german servers abbadons and millers ,and yes new gw2 fashion is to run arround with naked engineers

piken square,necrosis

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Posted by: kyokara.1867

kyokara.1867

I tested this a few times tonight (sorry fellas..for science!!)
Basically if you log out while you go downed, by esc + pressing log out to character select, and then log right back in you do NOT die. If you log right back in, you are actually in downed state (in my situation I was in the middle of heart of the mists in a downed state). I logged out when I was downed, and came back into game as downed, thus I think it is fair to assume that no one got any points, or badges, and also my armor was not damaged as well.

This happened for 3 out of the 4 times I tried it. The remaining 1/4 I logged back in as dead, which may be because I logged out with low health in down state or waited a bit longer to log back in. In any case, it doesn’t necessarily mean you die.

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Posted by: NealCaffrey.6450

NealCaffrey.6450

I’m seeing this happen more and more every day. It’s pretty annoying when you’re wondering in what patch did they add Warrior Stealth… Seeing this happen alot in my tier especially with next to zero queue times for all three servers.

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Posted by: OctopusX.7185

OctopusX.7185

I started doing this after seeing others. But I only do it sometimes, like when fighting a thief who does his perma-stealth kitten over and over.. I’m sorry but I don’t feel that deserves any reward. Same when invisible zerg jumps on me. I’m not going to pay repair costs because the game is broken.

Advantages to ALT+F4 strategy:

  • You pay no repair costs
  • Your enemy gets no badges

When you login back to the game you’re dead but a good trick is to be in one of the big towns when going into WvW. In that case you don’t need to wait for others to rez you. Instead, you use one of the waypoints in that same town, which costs nothing. There isn’t even a loading screen.

I sometimes troll people with this. When 5+ people chase me, I make em run a long long way then just alt+f4 I do agree it’s annoying when people do this while in downed. If it was up to me, I’d remove downed state from PvP entirely. If you’re dead, you’re dead. Why does the warrior have traits for faster reviving & why are there runes for this? Would be much better to see builds made to revive people and be rewarded for it than to have this terrible terrible downed state.

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Posted by: Sylosi.6503

Sylosi.6503

Kuthos.9623
Cheesy and cowardly…

So fits in with the general style of play of WvW perfectly…

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Posted by: Niim.9260

Niim.9260

I started doing this after seeing others. But I only do it sometimes, like when fighting a thief who does his perma-stealth kitten over and over.. I’m sorry but I don’t feel that deserves any reward. Same when invisible zerg jumps on me. I’m not going to pay repair costs because the game is broken.

Advantages to ALT+F4 strategy:

  • You pay no repair costs
  • Your enemy gets no badges

When you login back to the game you’re dead but a good trick is to be in one of the big towns when going into WvW. In that case you don’t need to wait for others to rez you. Instead, you use one of the waypoints in that same town, which costs nothing. There isn’t even a loading screen.

Maybe WvW isnt for you? Lots of great PvE games, you should check them out.

~ AoN ~

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Posted by: LOCO.1785

LOCO.1785

I started doing this after seeing others. But I only do it sometimes, like when fighting a thief who does his perma-stealth kitten over and over.. I’m sorry but I don’t feel that deserves any reward. Same when invisible zerg jumps on me. I’m not going to pay repair costs because the game is broken.

Advantages to ALT+F4 strategy:

  • You pay no repair costs
  • Your enemy gets no badges

When you login back to the game you’re dead but a good trick is to be in one of the big towns when going into WvW. In that case you don’t need to wait for others to rez you. Instead, you use one of the waypoints in that same town, which costs nothing. There isn’t even a loading screen.

ANet, plz add a 10 sec grace period to prevent more kittens like this from laming up the game.

Cheers

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Posted by: Erebus Delirium.4892

Erebus Delirium.4892

ALT-F4 requires relaunching the game. That’s not really worth it. Pressing ESCAPE and clicking log out -> character select is very, VERY worth it. It’s actually one of the very few tactics that works against getting rofflestomped by a winning team. After all, they probably have queues, and the losing team probably doesn’t. You’re only out of the game for a few seconds. There are some utterly cheesy tactics out there, this is just another one.

This should obviously be fixed, but done so after some WvW balance changes are implemented.

-Tarnished Coast since the beginning

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Posted by: stortzdeoliveira.1745

stortzdeoliveira.1745

There is a moment, just after you hit ALT F4, a brief moment, where you can taste all the jimmies, rustling up all at the same time. It’s priceless. Also the 1 silver economy feels pretty good, specially when you’re addicted to arrow carts and the money is tight.

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Posted by: Gisei.5749

Gisei.5749

It’s annoying, but that’s about it. On to my next kill.

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