Guild Wars 2

The title says it all. I’m sick of the top tier " We aren’t winning lets not try." spirit. So which server has the most fighting spirit. Considering Kaineng based on the spirit I’ve seen from their players here. i also like dungeon groups so if the server is good for that even better.

TL;DR Which server has spirit for WvW even in the face of defeat?

Tarnished Coast.

Although BG was rampaging through all the maps last week and CD the week before, many of us fought hard and had fun despite how grim the score was. There is some kind of magic that makes it worthwhile to join WvW even if we are getting stomped.

We like well-mannered and polite players, tough. If you are not nice, please stay away!

theguildless.1386:

Tarnished Coast.

Although BG was rampaging through all the maps last week and CD the week before, many of us fought hard and had fun despite how grim the score was. There is some kind of magic that makes it worthwhile to join WvW even if we are getting stomped.

We like well-mannered and polite players, tough. If you are not nice, please stay away!

Totally agree!

We got totally destroyed by Crystal Desert and Blackgate, but many of the guilds and leaders are now using the very same tactics in our current match up.

If you want a place where we don’t care about the score .. log on and fight without whining even when the odds are against us, this is the place to be.

I have to agree. I’ve been on 3 other servers before I found Tarnished Coast. This server never gives up, well, some people do, but we always have a fairly sizable group willing fight it out.

Yeah, we might argue occasionally, but to be completely honest, if you’re looking for a great community full of people that are willing to stick with the match, regardless of the score, TC is the place to be.

For the Toast!

Mate,

I moved and it was the right move.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Project-Blacktide-Pan-Continental-Alliance-Looking-for-US-and-EU-Guilds/first#post497094

Ruins of Surmia.
Right now we’re ranked second.
During the day we’re bashed by the russian server that has a LOT more people. FoW has apparently given up to fight much during the day, so we’re basically the only server bringing the fight. Vabbi upgrades all the towers and SM.
During the night, most of vabbi goes to sleep. But we capture stuff while is around even numbers, hell even less.
And when we are more than them, we take almost everything. Now, when FoW sees we’ve taken everything, they start getting in action. They come attacking our towers and keeps wo we have to fight on 2 fronts until the vabbi logs off, then we have to FoW.
During the night our guys slowly logged off, unlike FoW we’re bringing, or trying to bring the fight during the day too. FoW is basically leeching from us. We HARDLY see them ever attackiing vabbi, all they’re doing is trying to bleed us so they can have more points than us.
Sadly I must say their tactic is working because Vabbi always focuses us during the day and FoW has free play all the time, even during the night when they have more players than us. Our gap between Vabbi is increasing, and the gap between FoW is sadly not increasing enough.

But even then, we RoSes do not give up, we never surrender!

Do not worry about the ping because apparently the European servers are on East Coast, USA.
We could use your help during the night.

Tarnished Coast. Not only can we claim fighting spirit, but also the honor of being the only top ten server that achieves victory without the help of huge pvp guilds or super-alliances. When TC wins, we do it as a whole, everybody on our server contributes. We’re aware that most servers consider this kind of decentralization a weakness, but we take the stance that it is indeed a strength. TC players identify with TC, are proud of TC, and as a general rule are at least as loyal to the server as they are to their particular guild. We’re the scrappers and the stalwarts. Come check us out.

Ilesyt.7084:

FoW has apparently given up to fight much during the day, so we’re basically the only server bringing the fight.

Most of our dedicated WvW players are simply only available during what you call the night (sun can’t shine everywhere at once). Our attacks have nothing to do with your actions or when you decide to attack. FoW has been able to take control of all of 2 borderlands and much/most of EB quite a few times this week, but as Vabbi heavily outnumbers us most times (as well as RoS players moving in on us) we can’t hold everything once their zerg wakes up. Just wish your orb wasn’t glitched permanently in your posession at Askalion hills… My friends and I loved stealing it from The Spiritholme and hiding it in the jumping puzzle…

Also. How are queues. That’s important. Don’t wanna wait 6 hours to get in WvW.

Out of the matches I have personally been involved in the last 8 weeks the only servers that I have seen that fight to the end no matter what the score or ranks are are JQ, SBI, IoJ and Blackgate. There may be more, but I haven’t played against them yet.

And, by play to the end I mean still fighting up to the reset for the next match. IoJ and Blackgate did this two weeks ago against SBI even though the score was a blowout. I gained a lot of respect for those two servers that week.

For JQ and SBI we have had a rivalry going back to when SBI became a server in the BWEs and always fight each other that way no matter who the 3rd server is.

Tarnished Coast.

You can login to WvW, down and out of the match, and map/team chat is still talking about where to hit next, and how to rally together to continue to fight.

No one turns on each other, morale never takes a hit.

Now, just because TC has an amazing fighting spirit when down in a match, doesn’t mean we don’t know how to fight We’re winning our current matchup, and continue to improve on our server’s coordination every week. You’ll be hard pressed to find a more positive group of gamers. TC keeps things ego free, and doesn’t put up with drama.

Give TC a shot. You won’t regret it.

How do you measure fighting spirit?

Are you looking for a server that never gets blown out by 400k points because they keep showing up and fighting?

There are die hards on every server that will keep going out and fighting no matter the score – but every server I’ve seen basically, as a whole, gives up when the opponents takes all 3 orbs and a modest lead.

That is the only way in which 400k point blowouts happen, and those blowouts happened all up and down the rankings last week.

If you’re looking for a server which maintains the same level of population, presence, and enthusiasm all week as they did Friday night when they thought they could still win, I don’t think there are any.

Come from behind wins are very very rare.

Here in TC we have very interesting (RP?) people that make for some downright hilarious fights, even when we’re hopelessly behind with no way to recover. Yes we’ll get the occasional bickering on the map chat but who doesn’t? Overall people are helpful and friendly, I rarely see any accusation being thrown at individuals and that is a great thing imho.

I also noticed that there are some quite different strategies and philosophies employed in the different maps due to individual commanders/guilds coverage, so it’s very possible that you don’t really like the style of one zone but love another’s.

Just be warned though, I think we’re currently at the in-between stage of T3 to T4. So we might win in T4 and then get schooled in T3 (I hope not because we’re improving but still). But I actually had more fun last couple of weeks when we got trashed than this week. There were a lot of hilarious “famous last stands” that didn’t really do much to help the score but fun to take part in.

Froggie.3758:

Ilesyt.7084:

FoW has apparently given up to fight much during the day, so we’re basically the only server bringing the fight.

Most of our dedicated WvW players are simply only available during what you call the night (sun can’t shine everywhere at once). Our attacks have nothing to do with your actions or when you decide to attack. FoW has been able to take control of all of 2 borderlands and much/most of EB quite a few times this week, but as Vabbi heavily outnumbers us most times (as well as RoS players moving in on us) we can’t hold everything once their zerg wakes up. Just wish your orb wasn’t glitched permanently in your posession at Askalion hills… My friends and I loved stealing it from The Spiritholme and hiding it in the jumping puzzle…

Funny cause FoW was almost nowhere to be seen when we first got vabbi. But when you noticed that we kicked vabbi’s kitten during the night, you guys started showing up more and more.
First it was still early, when we were on a lot. Then slowly, day by day you guys got later and later.
And don’t tell me that wasn’t intentional because it definitely is. I’m not saying that your tactic isn’t good, because it seems to be working, you’re making us bleed.
But none the less you ARE leeching from us.
Again today during the day, you guys were nowhere to be seen.

Devona’s Rest has remained strong in the face of adversity. I recall the first time I met a Commander called Smilingknight. He was leading a bunch of us around and we were capturing places, but some people were complaining because of the “<blank> noobs” that were in our squad, and that we were just going to lose all of the points anyway. He calmly pointed out that we were all having a good time, and we were winning, so there was no reason to freak out.

No surprise, we lost all of those points that night when we went to sleep and Kaineng logged on. Nonetheless, we’ve maintained a fighting spirit.

Another thing I notice is the sportsmanlike conduct from my worldmates. In the Eternal Battlegrounds jumping puzzle, I always stand aside and let rival Invaders pass by uncontested, and I notice that other people from DR do the same. Even when an enemy decides to be stupid and attack us, I’ve witnessed, on more than one occasion, the DR people down the enemy and leave him alone to get back up. Sort of a “Hey man, we’re going to the same place, let’s leave our differences at the portal,” kind of thing.

Also, queues are nonexistent, since we’re the smallest server (or we were… not sure if we are anymore).

And hey, I hear we’re winning our bracket this week. So I guess courage and consideration pay off? I certainly hope so… but hey, as long as we’re having fun, winning doesn’t really matter. :-)

i use to think that Darkhaven was all about the fighting spirit, till I realized, the core pvp population of this server is just flat out insane, and we like it <3 large population servers mean more for us to kill, it’s nice. -twitch- you could almost hear their bones crunch when you shoot a mirror blade into a zerg and watch the enemies eyes fall out their sockets when you shatter your illusions. i get all warm and fuzzy thinking about it. -shudders-

The servers known for their never give up players regardless of score are Blackgate, Tarnished Coast…and Isle of Janthir, my personal home

Because of free transfers, the server population is in constant fluctuation, so there’s no such server. Some say Blackgate, but I can tell you during the first few weeks, when they constantly losing to HoD, most of their players lost their morale and totally gave up and some transferred to other servers. Some say SBI, didn’t you see how badly they lost last week? And the word was that their players just gave up that match because of HoD’s non-existent and it’s not a fair match 1v1 against JQ’s 24/7 coverage.

personally i’d rather be loyal to my server than hop around like a jack rabbit with teeth.

TC all the way! Well to be fair Ive never been on any other server but then again that in itself should say something… I have no desire to go anywhere. All our guildees in TV have been the same voices in vent and I see the same players in WvW most of the time. Everyone works together as a team reguardless of guild! Im here to stay!

Ruins of Surmia, never before in gaming have I seen people so tenacious (even to the point of stubborness) in the face of overwhelming odds and actually perform greatly too. Quality over quantity here, though a bit more quantity would be nice!

zonderbon.5871:

Ruins of Surmia, never before in gaming have I seen people so tenacious (even to the point of stubborness) in the face of overwhelming odds and actually perform greatly too. Quality over quantity here, though a bit more quantity would be nice!

We’re like that on Ruins of Surmia.

Run in first, all together and don’t worry about numbers. The more to fight, the better, plenty to chose from and you can’t miss as they’re everywhere.

As for OP.
We fight from Saturday 01:00 till next Saturday 01:00 and none, I repeat, none cares about the score. The happy family comes out all the time with what we have online, even if it’s 20 poor souls versus 150 Vabi’s.

I want to throw Ehmry Bay into the mix. We are currently on the winning side of WvW but that’s because we were thrown into the lowest bracket, next time around we will be the underdogs again yet our WvW presence is strong.

In addition we have a vibrant player community forum set up at ehmry.com (click link in my sig). You are welcome to join and get to know some of the players before you make a server move.

I’ve been on Kaineng, then tried Tarnished Coast for about a week and am now back on Kaineng.
They’re both great servers and out of all the servers out there (the American ones anyways, can’t say much about Europe), these two probably have the best fighting spirit.
The main reason I moved back to Kaineng is simply because there’s less lag and the queues are shorter.
Kaineng typically has no queues during American daytime ever but occasional short queues during nighttime (many players are from Asia/Oceania including the biggest WvW guild on the server). Think 15 minutes or less. Tarnished Coast on the other hand has frequent queues during daytime and occasional queues during nighttime as well.