Guild Wars 2

I am looking to jump ship from SFR EU, to some other T3 or higher EU, server. I have a few candidates for the moment, but i havent been around lately, so i need a refresh on community relations.

How is the community within Piken Square, Desolation, Gandara and Far Shiverpeaks these days?

Has there been internal drama?

Which ones has the best coverage?

Which server has the most blob based/guild based/roaming based community?

How does the commanders deal with small guild roaming?

Is there many commanders or just a few pulling long hours?

Does the commanders share participation with scouts?

Thank you for any input on these questions.

FSP is overstacked and has a lot of internal problems with the bandwagoning and toxic behaviour. Half of Piken Square jumped ship to Vabbi, to make that the new top server. Gandara is overstacked even more than FSP and ganking as usual. Desolation is full.

Monica.9701:

FSP is overstacked and has a lot of internal problems with the bandwagoning and toxic behaviour. Half of Piken Square jumped ship to Vabbi, to make that the new top server. Gandara is overstacked even more than FSP and ganking as usual. Desolation is full.

I’m sorry, but that isnt very helpful. Full/stacked or not, it is just a matter of refreshing to get a spot.

Jump ship from SFR… Currently @ some T1 server in EU… hmmmm…

Is this a trick topic? Asking whether T1 servers have drama is like asking if its ok to look up in a hailstorm. Of course the answer is yes. How else will you predict where they gonna land?

Dawdler.8521:

Jump ship from SFR… Currently @ some T1 server in EU… hmmmm…

Is this a trick topic? Asking whether T1 servers have drama is like asking if its ok to look up in a hailstorm. Of course the answer is yes. How else will you predict where they gonna land?

I havent updated that signature since 2015 or so……

Prysin.8542:

Monica.9701:

FSP is overstacked and has a lot of internal problems with the bandwagoning and toxic behaviour. Half of Piken Square jumped ship to Vabbi, to make that the new top server. Gandara is overstacked even more than FSP and ganking as usual. Desolation is full.

I’m sorry, but that isnt very helpful. Full/stacked or not, it is just a matter of refreshing to get a spot.

If a server is full, its full. You won’t be able to get in with refreshing anymore. They changed that.

Second, most top tier communities are the same, so it’s useless to dissect every community. I’m trying to discourage you to go to an overstacked server, they already have enough people as it is.

Desolation is PuG heaven, but we are currently classified as “full”, despite we can barely have any queues at prime to any map and we are generally outnumbered on 3/4 maps at same time.

There is activity at all hours.

We have several WvWvW focused guilds, but I would say our strong point is organized PuGs groups. At the moment we lack small roaming groups. Most Deso roamers are just solo roamers, who happen to be in the same place at same time with others.

I cannot speak for other servers, because I don’t have alt accounts.

I can only speak for Piken. You’ll find a lovely mix of salt and complaining combined with a large dose of humor plus some zaniness thrown in to boot. There is a core of fun loving folks there who enjoy doing what they do regardless of what the matchup looks like. I’m an NA player myself with an account on both EU and NA. Outside of prime time EU, Piken will drop off significantly in population.

FSP would be probably best decision

Fatherbliss.4701:

I can only speak for Piken. You’ll find a lovely mix of salt and complaining combined with a large dose of humor plus some zaniness thrown in to boot. There is a core of fun loving folks there who enjoy doing what they do regardless of what the matchup looks like. I’m an NA player myself with an account on both EU and NA. Outside of prime time EU, Piken will drop off significantly in population.

This is a pretty accurate description, I made a lot of good friends on Piken. Despite some people leaving to Vabbi, I say we have strong community going.

Prysin.8542:

Monica.9701:

FSP is overstacked and has a lot of internal problems with the bandwagoning and toxic behaviour. Half of Piken Square jumped ship to Vabbi, to make that the new top server. Gandara is overstacked even more than FSP and ganking as usual. Desolation is full.

I’m sorry, but that isnt very helpful. Full/stacked or not, it is just a matter of refreshing to get a spot.

They aren’t wrong, FSP is rather hostile at the moment, its getting worse week on week, to the point some of us are looking to leave it, however in regards to your question, ive seen EB with 40 Queue and no commander on the map, or you will find a commander with 8 people on them that tells everyone else to FO as its a closed raid, not quite sure what 8 people are going to do against 50 but hey ho, FSP also seems extremely hostile towards any server that is linked with them that week, ( now this could be from times gone past with certain people etc on that server but it really brings down the overall enjoyment of WvW down )

On FSP when a commander tags up you will get fights providing the other servers are up for it, it can be rather boring at times to go out to fight an enemy zerg and they all play the 100m sprint to safety to get to the first AC they can, you should also look at other servers though depending on what you want, if you a siege player then FSP is not for you, in that same sense if your not a siege player other top servers may not be for you, as I swear everytime we go near a tower/keep there are 30 AC’s raining down on us.

I guess its going to come down to your play style and if you can handle a lot of boring drama.

I can only speak for Gandara but I love it here, good community and some good commanders and also the added bonus of getting whispered salty tears that refer to the server as Gankdara (even when out numbered). I feel that we lack small scale groups however and do not really focus on score but more on fights.

Downsides are it’s only active for big zerg play at prime time (weekends have a commander most of the time) and 0 night crew so against BB deso etc it can be frustrating.

I think gandara piken or deso are all good choices though.
My friends on FSP seem to get bored quickly as they have a massive player base and opposing servers tend to get tired of those numbers. Although alot of the “celebrity” roamers are on there so maybe that’s the place to be.

Either way hope to see you soon (friend or foe :p)

Thank you for many good replies so far. I would like more detail on the type of salt/drama mentioned within Piken Square. So far, my fellow guildmates seem to be leaning towards Piken, we are currently all over the place and want to move to a common server for small scale WvW (3-15man max) and it would be a shame if we moved to a server that is no fun.

That being said, how would you, “outsiders” view SFR today? Obviously i know some of the things going on, but sometimes getting other’s perspective can be very helpful.

- Gandara, up and down server, sometimes they’re active and lot of times not, currently summer is coming up and people are stacking on gandara link tho so it is prolly best choice. Has a few good and lot of regular “casual” commanders. Good roaming activity.

- FSP, nice server overall, active chat & teamspeak but has the issue of being the most boring server to be in unless you want to farm bags and outnumber enemies 90% of day while never having any activity at nighttime. Has dead weeks fightwise. Has a few good and lot of mediocre commanders. 0 Roaming activity.

- Piken Square, pretty much dumbster atm with being stacked last linking then crashing down, they will prolly start being active in month or two around summer. Supernice people, my 2nd fav server peoplewise. Not really hardcore, cant compete with big boys. Relatively bad commanders. 0 Roaming activity.

- Gunnars Hold + Vabbi, Currently the bandvagoner server where all the big boys are going to make a fightserver. However their success depends on if they can break that barrier between t3-t2 to face FSP/Gandara and gain some ppters. Has lot of good commanders. Has roaming activity.

- Desolation, the server I am currently in, spent most time and started at. Okay server if you know the people, however very very casual. Nice/lot of people but the activity is near 0 at daytime because the commanders/people/numbers are not at daytime the level that you need to face the strongest international servers like FSP/Gunnars/Gandara. Nice place but needs a openraiding good guild to carry it and theres none atm, wouldnt recommend. Has roaming/out of primetime activity.

Also to your questions

• FSP and gandara have best coverage atm
• Defensive scouts are normally kicked from squad because why would you keep someone who is not on eb in full squad, its easy to get full participation by repairing walls/flipping sentries/camps anyways. Also you dont really need scouts in EB due to having full map of aware people and watchtowers everywhere.
• No one cares about small guilds roaming on any server, they’re just having fun.

• I dont think there’s any commanders that pull long hours anymore these days, its all about number of commanders

• Internal drama is everyday thing, the game is boring without it. You need to be part of the server to participate in it. I guess biggest things happening last times are half of FSP hating siegehugging people in SM not letting enemy reset it so they cant play eb, so they’re slowly leaving FSP. And piken losing half of its activity due to bandvagoners leaving to vabbi with new linking.

BTW: dont forget summer is coming up, which means blobs and roamers everywhere, generally you want to be on a server that wins fights during summer.

Well, any server without roamers isnt going to prevail in the end. Unless the coverage is near 24/7.

As for Piken, kitten , it was one of the top contenders.

As for my previous WvW experience. i came from FSP to Deso, before AoA left FSP due to drama. I then moved to Crystal Palace NA, sucked, moved to Tarnished Coast and stayed in T1 NA for all of first WvW Tournament. Then moved back to Deso for Fall tournament. Then moved to SFR after that, cuz Deso was dieing again.

I would first ask you what makes you want to leave SFR? What is it you are missing?

Prysin.8542:

That being said, how would you, “outsiders” view SFR today? Obviously i know some of the things going on, but sometimes getting other’s perspective can be very helpful.

I am on SFR’s current linked server and enjoy playing there very much, no idea why you would like to “jump ship”… I mainly play off-peak hours and it has a lot of organized small group activity outside of closed guilds. Community and commanders very friendly and helpful to newer players like me. I actually hate the fact that we probably be relinked in 6 weeks. Q_Q

You seem to like server-hopping though, I can surely recommend a low-population server like Blacktide to get around easily. Every 8 weeks a new host server for you without paying any transfer fees.

Smoke.9273:

I would first ask you what makes you want to leave SFR? What is it you are missing?

The current guild i am in is looking to move onto one server. Well, some of us (like max 5), so i was looking which servers that were good choices. SFR is OK, we got a kneejerk of a commander who comes on often, and he annoys me. Then we have another one which is really kind… so im kinda torn. One makes me want to leave, the other makes me want to stay.

Kir Sakar.3647:

Prysin.8542:

That being said, how would you, “outsiders” view SFR today? Obviously i know some of the things going on, but sometimes getting other’s perspective can be very helpful.

I am on SFR’s current linked server and enjoy playing there very much, no idea why you would like to “jump ship”… I mainly play off-peak hours and it has a lot of organized small group activity outside of closed guilds. Community and commanders very friendly and helpful to newer players like me. I actually hate the fact that we probably be relinked in 6 weeks. Q_Q

You seem to like server-hopping though, I can surely recommend a low-population server like Blacktide to get around easily. Every 8 weeks a new host server for you without paying any transfer fees.

I only hop servers if the community is bad or the coverage is dieing. I left FSP when it was just about to implode. I left Deso when it had imploded, i left Crystal desert cuz it sucked, i left tarnished coast cuz someone paid to move me back to deso. Then i moved to SFR because it had the highest coverage and seemed like a very stable server.

Prysin.8542:

Kir Sakar.3647:

Prysin.8542:

That being said, how would you, “outsiders” view SFR today? Obviously i know some of the things going on, but sometimes getting other’s perspective can be very helpful.

I am on SFR’s current linked server and enjoy playing there very much, no idea why you would like to “jump ship”… I mainly play off-peak hours and it has a lot of organized small group activity outside of closed guilds. Community and commanders very friendly and helpful to newer players like me. I actually hate the fact that we probably be relinked in 6 weeks. Q_Q

You seem to like server-hopping though, I can surely recommend a low-population server like Blacktide to get around easily. Every 8 weeks a new host server for you without paying any transfer fees.

I only hop servers if the community is bad or the coverage is dieing. I left FSP when it was just about to implode. I left Deso when it had imploded, i left Crystal desert cuz it sucked, i left tarnished coast cuz someone paid to move me back to deso. Then i moved to SFR because it had the highest coverage and seemed like a very stable server.

Then you will be hopping a lot. I’m on a linked server and from my perspective all communities are pretty much the same, we’ve been with SFR, FSP, Gankdara and now with Piken. I’d say Piken is currently the best if only because chat doesn’t seem to be filled with memes and moronic drivel like on Gankdara but really most servers have issues with pug commanders now.

They all have some during prime time, then maybe one burning the midnight oil a little then it tapers off, can’t speak for morning/daytime as I work that time.

If you don’t mind Mighty Teapot he is gathering a pita pug blob 3-4 days of the week on underworld with a regular schedule. You can join him for large scale or run a small group in support or to be a pita in other areas of the map.

Why not transfer to a link server though? You get a roll of the dice of different tiers every 2 months as well as experiencing the different communities and how welcoming they are/aren’t. Besides you’d actually be helping the communities to grow that need help rather than adding onto already bloated communities.

apharma.3741:

Prysin.8542:

Kir Sakar.3647:

Prysin.8542:

That being said, how would you, “outsiders” view SFR today? Obviously i know some of the things going on, but sometimes getting other’s perspective can be very helpful.

I am on SFR’s current linked server and enjoy playing there very much, no idea why you would like to “jump ship”… I mainly play off-peak hours and it has a lot of organized small group activity outside of closed guilds. Community and commanders very friendly and helpful to newer players like me. I actually hate the fact that we probably be relinked in 6 weeks. Q_Q

You seem to like server-hopping though, I can surely recommend a low-population server like Blacktide to get around easily. Every 8 weeks a new host server for you without paying any transfer fees.

I only hop servers if the community is bad or the coverage is dieing. I left FSP when it was just about to implode. I left Deso when it had imploded, i left Crystal desert cuz it sucked, i left tarnished coast cuz someone paid to move me back to deso. Then i moved to SFR because it had the highest coverage and seemed like a very stable server.

Then you will be hopping a lot. I’m on a linked server and from my perspective all communities are pretty much the same, we’ve been with SFR, FSP, Gankdara and now with Piken. I’d say Piken is currently the best if only because chat doesn’t seem to be filled with memes and moronic drivel like on Gankdara but really most servers have issues with pug commanders now.

They all have some during prime time, then maybe one burning the midnight oil a little then it tapers off, can’t speak for morning/daytime as I work that time.

If you don’t mind Mighty Teapot he is gathering a pita pug blob 3-4 days of the week on underworld with a regular schedule. You can join him for large scale or run a small group in support or to be a pita in other areas of the map.

Why not transfer to a link server though? You get a roll of the dice of different tiers every 2 months as well as experiencing the different communities and how welcoming they are/aren’t. Besides you’d actually be helping the communities to grow that need help rather than adding onto already bloated communities.

You bring up some interesting and valid points. But i’d rather not drop down to the lower tiers. Sub T4 i feel like there is too much of a “wild card”… I recognize that you will get more activity then in the past, pre linking period, but being tied with a toxic community for a couple of months would be the death of my enthusiasm for this game.

I think i am getting some good insight, i’d love more feedback as i and a few of my friends are getting closer to the decision of where to move.

Prysin.8542:

apharma.3741:

Prysin.8542:

Kir Sakar.3647:

Prysin.8542:

That being said, how would you, “outsiders” view SFR today? Obviously i know some of the things going on, but sometimes getting other’s perspective can be very helpful.

I am on SFR’s current linked server and enjoy playing there very much, no idea why you would like to “jump ship”… I mainly play off-peak hours and it has a lot of organized small group activity outside of closed guilds. Community and commanders very friendly and helpful to newer players like me. I actually hate the fact that we probably be relinked in 6 weeks. Q_Q

You seem to like server-hopping though, I can surely recommend a low-population server like Blacktide to get around easily. Every 8 weeks a new host server for you without paying any transfer fees.

I only hop servers if the community is bad or the coverage is dieing. I left FSP when it was just about to implode. I left Deso when it had imploded, i left Crystal desert cuz it sucked, i left tarnished coast cuz someone paid to move me back to deso. Then i moved to SFR because it had the highest coverage and seemed like a very stable server.

Then you will be hopping a lot. I’m on a linked server and from my perspective all communities are pretty much the same, we’ve been with SFR, FSP, Gankdara and now with Piken. I’d say Piken is currently the best if only because chat doesn’t seem to be filled with memes and moronic drivel like on Gankdara but really most servers have issues with pug commanders now.

They all have some during prime time, then maybe one burning the midnight oil a little then it tapers off, can’t speak for morning/daytime as I work that time.

If you don’t mind Mighty Teapot he is gathering a pita pug blob 3-4 days of the week on underworld with a regular schedule. You can join him for large scale or run a small group in support or to be a pita in other areas of the map.

Why not transfer to a link server though? You get a roll of the dice of different tiers every 2 months as well as experiencing the different communities and how welcoming they are/aren’t. Besides you’d actually be helping the communities to grow that need help rather than adding onto already bloated communities.

You bring up some interesting and valid points. But i’d rather not drop down to the lower tiers. Sub T4 i feel like there is too much of a “wild card”… I recognize that you will get more activity then in the past, pre linking period, but being tied with a toxic community for a couple of months would be the death of my enthusiasm for this game.

I think i am getting some good insight, i’d love more feedback as i and a few of my friends are getting closer to the decision of where to move.

Well, the most toxic servers in EU are probably GH and Gankdara from my experience. FSP wasn’t bad when we were linked but that was at the start of linking and bandwagon probably pulled in a lot of toxicity too.

Honestly I’d say go Piken, they’re as good as any other and the MM guild I knew from GH moved there and they’re a very friendly bunch.

Well then, guess Piken should be investigated further after all.
Does anyone know somebody on Piken, involved in WvW, that i can contact ingame or over the forums?