Guild Wars 2

Welcome to Mazergma.

GuardianOMS.8067:

Looks like it. Beware of the Maguuma zerg.

One question… if you’re Maguuma, then why do you show two commanders inside of IoJ’s citadel? Maybe I should just go ingame and check it out though…

I dunno, they’re probably having a party. Good news, you’re invited! But only because it’s your house.

Mag is currently outmanned on IoJ BL. Probably a good time to start wreaking havoc.

Yak’s once again rolling into the dueling zone in a zerg and getting rolled out.

What’s with all this whining about losing? This was expected, and it’s going to happen next week when Yaks faces Kaineng. This is what happens you free transfers are closing. Servers that were in T4/T5 receive a huge influx of players, which pushes the server to possibly T2 status. They’re in the wrong tier.

It’ll take several weeks to fix this. If you don’t want it, go join a T1 server that rolls over everyone else but has 5 hour queues.

Cube.4905:

Yak’s once again rolling into the dueling zone in a zerg and getting rolled out.

I only counted 10 yaks in that SS, i dont think it can be called a zerg when you have more players than the zerg.

Cybertx.6714:

Cube.4905:

Yak’s once again rolling into the dueling zone in a zerg and getting rolled out.

I only counted 10 yaks in that SS, i dont think it can be called a zerg when you have more players than the zerg.

It was about 15. They were mostly upleveled and ran down to the dueling area and got ran through pretty fast. They probably released before the image was taken.

It’s not bragging that they were wiped, it’s just that it’s another time where yaks runs down to the dueling area trying to wipe it, which is a crappy thing to try and do.

Vol.5241:

What’s with all this whining about losing? This was expected, and it’s going to happen next week when Yaks faces Kaineng. This is what happens you free transfers are closing. Servers that were in T4/T5 receive a huge influx of players, which pushes the server to possibly T2 status. They’re in the wrong tier.

It’ll take several weeks to fix this. If you don’t want it, go join a T1 server that rolls over everyone else but has 5 hour queues.

Actually, Maguuma swelling to this size is totally unexpected. We did not openly recruit, and as much as people claim the thread we posted was “reverse psychology”, it really wasn’t. With respect to Kaineng, much whining will be had when people bandwagon onto a low tier server with the expressed purpose of bringing it to the top. The same thing happened with Sea of Sorrows 2.0. It is a silly goal which brings much boredom and annoyance to every server in between the tiers where the server starts and settles.

Pinko.2076:

It was about 15. They were mostly upleveled and ran down to the dueling area and got ran through pretty fast. They probably released before the image was taken.

It’s not bragging that they were wiped, it’s just that it’s another time where yaks runs down to the dueling area trying to wipe it, which is a crappy thing to try and do.

You are aware that what you call a ‘duelling area’ is just another part of the WvW map for anyone else? I would be very suprised if any of those upleveled players even knew what was going on there. The majority of any MMO I’ve played does not use the forums. The duelists are an even smaller subset of those that do use the forums.

IIRC Anet is implementing arena’s. This, I imagine, to facilitate dueling. would you guys go there, or stay in WvW? Merely being curious.

Pretty Pixie.8603:

IIRC Anet is implementing arena’s. This, I imagine, to facilitate dueling. would you guys go there, or stay in WvW? Merely being curious.

That depends if they’re opening up the gearing system. The gearing system offered by spvp is much weaker than PvE offers so the variety and possibilities are very low. Also, the PvP nerfs to things like conditions overall, especially confusion, completely kill some builds.

If that doesn’t change, then we’ll do both. queue 1v1 tournaments for overall experience, and still do WvW dueling because it actually simulates real matchup experience.

Pretty Pixie.8603:

Pinko.2076:

It was about 15. They were mostly upleveled and ran down to the dueling area and got ran through pretty fast. They probably released before the image was taken.

It’s not bragging that they were wiped, it’s just that it’s another time where yaks runs down to the dueling area trying to wipe it, which is a crappy thing to try and do.

You are aware that what you call a ‘duelling area’ is just another part of the WvW map for anyone else? I would be very suprised if any of those upleveled players even knew what was going on there. The majority of any MMO I’ve played does not use the forums. The duelists are an even smaller subset of those that do use the forums.

IIRC Anet is implementing arena’s. This, I imagine, to facilitate dueling. would you guys go there, or stay in WvW? Merely being curious.

My vote (and many others) would be WvW. It’s one of the best times to meet new people from other servers. It’s like the ability to resist attacking every red name builds character and respect for people on other servers. There are the technical reasons too (different stats in sPvP, food, limited armor choices), but zzz. If they can’t understand that something different is happening when several people from each team are standing right next to each other, I have nothing nice to say.

Pretty Pixie.8603:

You are aware that what you call a ‘duelling area’ is just another part of the WvW map for anyone else? I would be very suprised if any of those upleveled players even knew what was going on there. The majority of any MMO I’ve played does not use the forums. The duelists are an even smaller subset of those that do use the forums.

IIRC Anet is implementing arena’s. This, I imagine, to facilitate dueling. would you guys go there, or stay in WvW? Merely being curious.

Ya, right, because there are so many objectives behind the windmill that might erroneously lead people there. There’s one reason people go back there.

And would people go to arenas instead of wvw? Probably not. It’s already possible to duel in spvp, although not as easily as it will be after custom arenas. However, custom arenas are going to have to be purchased, you are going to be limited to spvp aesthetics based on rank, and limited to the amulet system and no food. Spvp and wvw are just not the same thing.

dreztina.4820:

Pretty Pixie.8603:

You are aware that what you call a ‘duelling area’ is just another part of the WvW map for anyone else? I would be very suprised if any of those upleveled players even knew what was going on there. The majority of any MMO I’ve played does not use the forums. The duelists are an even smaller subset of those that do use the forums.

IIRC Anet is implementing arena’s. This, I imagine, to facilitate dueling. would you guys go there, or stay in WvW? Merely being curious.

Ya, right, because there are so many objectives behind the windmill that might erroneously lead people there. There’s one reason people go back there.

And would people go to arenas instead of wvw? Probably not. It’s already possible to duel in spvp, although not as easily as it will be after custom arenas. However, custom arenas are going to have to be purchased, you are going to be limited to spvp aesthetics based on rank, and limited to the amulet system and no food. Spvp and wvw are just not the same thing.

Hey mannn I just wanted to kill a boar for my daily kill types

Many people that enjoy dueling also enjoy open world fighting. The unpredictability, the flow, et cetera.

CrassBippy.4619:

katniss.6735:

crem.2615:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=007yGL2Ps_U

y for the fodder maguuma.

Looks like fun. Those are the pubbies, though. Uplevels. Go to the boarderlands if you want to fight our roamers. Decent music.

Ugh no one likes to watch thieves just spam CnD.

I was amazed by the skill shown in this video… how do you manage it? A P/D thief killing people and managing to get away???? Even against those up leveled folks… you sir are quite certainly amazing. Do you have any video of you with zerker gear 2 shotting up leveled people too? I think that would make for an excellent companion video.

dreztina.4820:

Ya, right, because there are so many objectives behind the windmill that might erroneously lead people there. There’s one reason people go back there.

Not so many. In fact just the one skill challenge. Not the sort of thing an uplevelled player would want to do, or anyone wanting map completion either for that matter.

saiyr.3071:

If they can’t understand that something different is happening when several people from each team are standing right next to each other, I have nothing nice to say.

In the specific instance being talked about, were there significant numbers of people from different teams to make this obvious? Going by the screen shot and previous comments in this thread about attendance I highly doubt it.

Ordibble.3092:

saiyr.3071:

If they can’t understand that something different is happening when several people from each team are standing right next to each other, I have nothing nice to say.

In the specific instance being talked about, were there significant numbers of people from different teams to make this obvious? Going by the screen shot and previous comments in this thread about attendance I highly doubt it.

Perhaps not, since we haven’t had much attendance from IoJ or Yak’s Bend. I wasn’t there any of the times this happened. But I feel like a bunch of red names standing still in open field is obvious enough. By the way, the skill point is still reasonably far away from where fight club is, except for the spider queen one, which is always on green.

I enjoy camping the jumping puzzle and killing carebears that think the JP is no place for PvP, so I’m not going to get mad when people come and try to break up duels.. They should just know that they’re attacking people that actually know how to PvP and will most likely get rolled while people from their own server sit back a /laugh at them.

Pinko.2076:

Since there’s not much WvW going on more yaks/ioj should come do some 1v1’s at Mag borderland south camp windmill area. There’s always Mag waiting around and we’re friendly.

Boring. I’ll go back to FPS games if I want tests of individual skill, on an actual balanced playing field.

WvW is in a bad place right now, hopefully it will all sort out when these paid transfers get settled.

The other day I was out to ninja a camp and ran into this IoJ Ranger, we had a good fight, but he took me out (crazy healing build with tons of condi removal and that is pretty much a hard counter for me). But most bizarre, he did not even capture the camp but offered to duel me. I obliged just to be nice, but I found it utterly pointless. I am not in WvW to duel, I have a team WvW build extremely useful for sieging and large fights and would not even pick my class (necro) in this game if I was interested in dueling.

And the majority of players in WvW are out with the same mindset, team combat and siege warfare, many running under geared toons to boot. I just don’t understand why your types are out in WvW, and not sPVP. I don’t see the challenge, if I made a 1v1 spec/prof, killing the majority of lost loners would be exceedingly easy. I guess they want to turn it into DAoC or something, which had a failed WvW mechanic. But GW2 has an actual working one – when matchups are balanced right.

Is the guild AoN still on Mag? These guys actually impressed me last week with their ability to stay cohesive within a zerg environment with a small group and actually fighting at objectives and staying in there too, not just hit and running with the intent to gank stragglers, which is trivial in the grand scheme, but what a lot of these rambo types usually do.

There is a lot of fun to be had being organized and skilled and not just for yourself, or sort of theorycrafting builds and such, but in the spirit of WvW as intended. That doesn’t mean you have to win that week to make it feel worthwhile either. It’s unfortunate that people can’t appreciate this, and want to subvert it.

Haha, yeah, you ran into that IoJ ranger. That’s literally all he does. I respect his discipline/patience.

AoN has not been on Maguuma for several weeks. I think they’re on SBI this week.

AoN hasn’t been on Mag in weeks, and, as someone who was actually in AoN, you are overestimating the degree which they care about objectives.

Rob.7624:

Hey guys I’ll make this quick.
And yes, I have no shame.
Maguuma is crammed with players already you can’t even get on a map) are leaving their servers and moving into other ones.

I dont know where you are getting your info but we have a max of 30 minute que on reset night on MAYBE one map on Mag and that’s our home BL the way it should be. No one wants to solo camps while 150 people sit in LA on NSP and spam for dungeons and other PVE garbage. Dont get me started on NSP, I put months my time into WvW there and it just hasnt recovered at all, scrublord guilds that dont give a kitten about anything but zerging EB will be the reason it never recovers.

dreztina.4820:

AoN hasn’t been on Mag in weeks, and, as someone who was actually in AoN, you are overestimating the degree which they care about objectives.

They were in the middle of the biggest contested spot on the map, within two big zergs, so maybe they just like fighting huge battles, but it at least had the effect of being very strategically beneficial for their server at the time to prevent that spot being capped.

Pendragon.8735:

dreztina.4820:

AoN hasn’t been on Mag in weeks, and, as someone who was actually in AoN, you are overestimating the degree which they care about objectives.

They were in the middle of the biggest contested spot on the map, within two big zergs, so maybe they just like fighting huge battles, but it at least had the effect of being very strategically beneficial for their server at the time to prevent that spot being capped.

You might be surprised how much those of us who don’t care about objectives do for the server we’re on.

Pendragon.8735:

And the majority of players in WvW are out with the same mindset, team combat and siege warfare, many running under geared toons to boot. I just don’t understand why your types are out in WvW, and not sPVP.

This portion shows me you haven’t actually done s/tpvp. Instead of writing a book on the subject, maybe you could just not show up? Plenty of yaks/ioj love dueling with us and it’s a good time. If you don’t think practicing versus skilled players in 1v1 improves you in all areas in pvp, then I don’t know what to tell you. Shame you won’t be there!

Most often in WvW you never run into 1v1s, even in soloing camps, such as my example, its a rarity. Practicing group combat, which is the vast majority of WvW entails is what would improve you more in this game mode.

Pendragon.8735:

Most often in WvW you never run into 1v1s, even in soloing camps, such as my example, its a rarity. Practicing group combat, which is the vast majority of WvW entails is what would improve you more in this game mode.

Cool, so now let me know how we get multiple groups of yaks/ioj, which don’t exist, to come to WvW to practice. We can barely get 4 yaks/ioj at a time, let alone squads that literally don’t exist on either server.

sPvP literally cannot emulate WvW because of gear limitations. The offensive potential of WvW gear is about 30-40% higher, and some builds literally (literally) cannot be emulated because of food buffs and stat inflation.

If tPvP had a vibrant scene of competent players and builds that matched PvE gear’s variety, which it doesn’t on either counts, it still wouldn’t offer good group PvP. I don’t know if you’ve ever player tPvP, but the object of that mode is the opposite of killing players. The best way to win tPvP is to split up and avoid all combat that gets in the way of standing on a small area of land. It’s terrible.

I actually agree with a lot of what you say about tPVP Pinko. I tried it for a while and the meta is stale at the top, and zergy for casual, conquest being the only mode really hurts it.

But in WvW the best way to win is not by killing. Killing players is actually worth 0 points. You of course need to do it to take objectives, but its just a means to an end.

Why can’t you practice to be good and still want to help your team and take objectives and such, its not like good fights can’t or don’t develop simply playing WvW straight.

This current match is of course borked so it really doesn’t matter, but I can’t say as I would want you guys on my server, good or not, if you don’t care about helping what the rest of your team is out there to do.

Pendragon.8735:

Most often in WvW you never run into 1v1s, even in soloing camps, such as my example, its a rarity. Practicing group combat, which is the vast majority of WvW entails is what would improve you more in this game mode.

i agree, there’s one caveat though, the vast majority of the players of this game benefits more from learning to 1v1 first. they dont have the fundamentals of combat down well enough to learn more advanced plays that group fights entail.

for these fightclubs however, it would be more fun and beneficial to setup 2,3,4,5v5 fights instead of always 1v1s, as the people that usually show up are pretty competent in 1v1’s already.

Pendragon.8735:

This current match is of course borked so it really doesn’t matter, but I can’t say as I would want you guys on my server, good or not, if you don’t care about helping what the rest of your team is out there to do.

This is silly. Our guild is composed of people who have done WvW on Maguuma since day 1, and we are very, very far from caring from what the rest of our team is doing. But apologies if we don’t care 24/7, I guess. Fight club has usually been on Thursday night when the match was essentially decided, but the match is already decided.

As a YB player I feel that some things need clearing up…

Many of us aren’t going run ourselves against Mag the way they are. They are NOT the same Maguuma server we fought hard a few weeks back. This next few weeks will likely be spent levelling alts, running trains, making cash for once the servers balance out again.
This being a competitive match ended when Mag fill all 4 maps and IoJ lost so many guilds. I do feel bad for Mags cause this week has to suck its so boring. Those times YB had these matches we were bored out of our minds.
Its likely to take about a month for the Tiers to balance out again as those that got a huge influx bump up and those that lost move down. Until that time WvW is broken pretty badly. We are preaching patience to our populace to hold them together so we don’t have bandwagon jumpers. Until the paid transfers go through though anything could happen. We could have the same influx of people. I personally (much Like Mag) would prefer to keep things the same here on YB. We have a great community and I would hate to see that damaged by a bunch of people who don’t respect that.

Just a few thoughts worth about 2 cents

saiyr.3071:

Our guild is composed of people who have done WvW on Maguuma since day 1, and we are very, very far from caring from what the rest of our team is doing.

That is not what others of this ilk from Mag, basically your forum talking heads, have said in that past, that they flat out don’t care about ‘that PvDoor’ stuff. But in a good match killing a door is going to require killing a lot of players first. Best of both worlds. PVP with a purpose.

Pendragon.8735:

saiyr.3071:

Our guild is composed of people who have done WvW on Maguuma since day 1, and we are very, very far from caring from what the rest of our team is doing.

That is not what others of this ilk from Mag, basically your forum talking heads, have said in that past, that they flat out don’t care about ‘that PvDoor’ stuff. But in a good match killing a door is going to require killing a lot of players first. Best of both worlds.

You basically just said that there is no PvD in a good match, so I don’t really see how caring about PvD (which happens in a bad match such as this one) is relevant. And just because we don’t like it doesn’t mean we don’t do it when it’s necessary. I think you are confusing this guild (who I assumed you were talking about, since you replied to Pinko) with our roamers. There are very few roamers that 100% don’t care about objectives on Maguuma.

saiyr.3071:

I think you are confusing this guild (who I assumed you were talking about, since you replied to Pinko) with our roamers. There are very few roamers that 100% don’t care about objectives on Maguuma.

Maybe I did, often though you have players speaking as if for their whole server, or at least their player type and they painted this impression of people not caring about any points on the map, just roaming around wanting to fight for no other sake than kill/death ratio or something. There is certainly room, and value in, small group and even roaming/scouting players within the confines of WvW as it is intended.

Sounds like you’ve been listening to Bunzy too much

Pendragon.8735:

dreztina.4820:

AoN hasn’t been on Mag in weeks, and, as someone who was actually in AoN, you are overestimating the degree which they care about objectives.

They were in the middle of the biggest contested spot on the map, within two big zergs, so maybe they just like fighting huge battles, but it at least had the effect of being very strategically beneficial for their server at the time to prevent that spot being capped.

Again, as another member who was part of AoN on Maguuma I will echo what dreztina said: you are far overestimating the degree to which they care about objectives. They do, however, love killing people and destroying enemy morale which is a positive result for a server in controlling a map and getting points. If there are any massive battles going on (such as your supply camp example) they will be there, and they will kill many people and will stay there as long as there are many people to kill.

That being said, they are doing exactly what roamers are doing except on a bigger scale.

Look at all these excuses for someone who won’t come out and 1v1. Wall wars sure are a lot more exciting! Quick, everyone stack on me!!! Press F to portal!!! Spam skills!!! YAY DDD

Well since xfers made this week a wash yet again (can’t wait for the servers to reshuffle and settle down for more fun matchups) was hoping to find some loj to play with. Just for fun since actually making a dent in the maguuma zerg’s map control isn’t going to happen. Of course even in loj BL and our own the moment you pop some swords in the hopes of drawing out a bored loj player or two to fight instead you get a nice 1v20 maguuma horde roflstomp and spike.

: /

Won’t give up since that’s not the bender way but it sure is a huge pile of quaggan dung atm as far as actual gameplay.

/venting

very nice to see yak pushing tonight

on a side note, thx for the bags ^.^

zastari.1730:

Look at all these excuses for someone who won’t come out and 1v1. Wall wars sure are a lot more exciting! Quick, everyone stack on me!!! Press F to portal!!! Spam skills!!! YAY DDD

There’s a couple of reasons why I personally don’t 1v1 in WvW;

• I generally play support characters;
• I probably lack the indiviual skill of someone that has learned their class in and out, and my reaction time is that of a slightly inebriated sloth.
• Most importantly though, the general attitude of some of the posters here that are confessed duelists seem to be one of derision. Why would I participate in an activity that would likely end with sledging, derision and humiliation? If dueling is so awesome, and you want more people to participate, then it could do with better PR.

I am NOT saying that anyone IS sledging/deriding at these duels; I am saying that this is the impression that I’ve gotten. I’m also not saying that this goes for the Maguuma population in general, or any other server.

Braxxus.2904:

Well since xfers made this week a wash yet again (can’t wait for the servers to reshuffle and settle down for more fun matchups) was hoping to find some loj to play with. Just for fun since actually making a dent in the maguuma zerg’s map control isn’t going to happen. Of course even in loj BL and our own the moment you pop some swords in the hopes of drawing out a bored loj player or two to fight instead you get a nice 1v20 maguuma horde roflstomp and spike.

: /

Won’t give up since that’s not the bender way but it sure is a huge pile of quaggan dung atm as far as actual gameplay.

/venting

To be honest, and I was on NSP the first week when the whole Ruin/Ascension fiasco took place, I have seen first place how much damage this transfer business can do, I feel bad for loyal IOJ peeps, if Maguuma had a strong IOJ breathing down our necks this would have been a much more fun match.

Truearrow.3527:

Braxxus.2904:

Well since xfers made this week a wash yet again (can’t wait for the servers to reshuffle and settle down for more fun matchups) was hoping to find some loj to play with. Just for fun since actually making a dent in the maguuma zerg’s map control isn’t going to happen. Of course even in loj BL and our own the moment you pop some swords in the hopes of drawing out a bored loj player or two to fight instead you get a nice 1v20 maguuma horde roflstomp and spike.

: /

Won’t give up since that’s not the bender way but it sure is a huge pile of quaggan dung atm as far as actual gameplay.

/venting

To be honest, and I was on NSP the first week when the whole Ruin/Ascension fiasco took place, I have seen first place how much damage this transfer business can do, I feel bad for loyal IOJ peeps, if Maguuma had a strong IOJ breathing down our necks this would have been a much more fun match.

Actually I’m a YB player, but I hear ya about loj. I was merely venting about trying to find a random loj player or two to fight for the mutual entertainment of us both since the maguuma zerg train is unstoppable and unfun atm and whilst trying to bait an loj player out to by causing some swords on their BL instead all I got was around 20 Mag’s zergin’ through me…

In fact I think I spoke too soon earlier, I don’t WANT to quit, but I’m calling it a night. As a solo player since my guild left for planetside 2 (except my RL buddy who is as stubborn as I am to perservere here) all that’s happened this week is a huge drain on my funds from repair bills, even when grouping up with a few fellow Benders to try and nab supply camps.

I bow to your zergball Maguuma, it truly is impressive and there is nothing to be done to stop it except take a break till next week. First time I’ve had my will to continue playing WvW broken by being outnumbered but I guess it was bound to happen eventually.

Has IoJ ever had compelling matches? I’m curious because the first time we played them on the way up, they did not compete in prime time, but killed us off peak. This looks to have carried them far up the ranks, but where it seems they ultimately hit a huge wall where they lost many weeks in a row, precipitating this huge exodus.

Servers with opposing prime periods just don’t produce good matches. And even if you get 1 team out of 3 that is built in such a way, it often imbalances the match for the remaining two (think we are getting a bit of that here). As the intended 3way function doesn’t work then and one side can much more easily exploit small advantages into big ones, and slowly take over a whole map, which leads to the losing side losing population, and the quality of a match quickly deteriorating as the week goes on.

Braxxus.2904:

First time I’ve had my will to continue playing WvW broken by being outnumbered but I guess it was bound to happen eventually.

Yeah, if it isn’t fun, don’t do it. Funny thing is, there seems to be a sweet spot for WvW in this match. I don’t know the NA time zone differences, but the days I have been on this week it has been about 9-12pm NZ time (GMT +13 at the mo’). We don’t seem to have been too outnumbered at this point and have successfully defended assets and even done damage in EB for a while. It hasn’t been too bogged down either, with plenty of changes of scenery.

Looks like IoJ isn’t doin so well in the wake of the xfers (as expected). I hope the people remaining that aren’t fighting are at least taking a small break like me. Time to take it easy and save for commander!!

Ordibble.3092:

Yeah, if it isn’t fun, don’t do it. Funny thing is, there seems to be a sweet spot for WvW in this match. I don’t know the NA time zone differences, but the days I have been on this week it has been about 9-12pm NZ time (GMT +13 at the mo’). We don’t seem to have been too outnumbered at this point and have successfully defended assets and even done damage in EB for a while. It hasn’t been too bogged down either, with plenty of changes of scenery.

Nice.
Yeah, I’m part of the NA:PST night population. From anywhere around 8:30pm – 1am depending on how long I decide to play after my kiddo goes to bed and the sleep I’m willing to sacrifice before work the next day lol. I’m used to the Bender pop being weak during this timeframe but never this bad. Even fighting outnumbered against CD/FA was fun and competitive a few weeks ago because they had some smaller groups/solo roamers to locate and play with. Against Mag though it’s just been a zergball of red names back to back to back.

jcabe.7549:

Looks like IoJ isn’t doin so well in the wake of the xfers (as expected). I hope the people remaining that aren’t fighting are at least taking a small break like me. Time to take it easy and save for commander!!

Good luck to you remaining guys. Transfer scrubbies can diaf imo. Props to those of you staying behind. Wish we could have had a few decent fights this week.

[/quote]Actually I’m a YB player, but I hear ya about loj. [/quote]Yep, I know, exactly my point if we had IOJ to worry about we wouldn’t be able to push Yaks so hard, it’s not Yaks or IOJ’s fault. Here’s hoping next time we get to fight you guys it’s not such a unbalanced match. Personally I think Yaks vs Maguuma vs Dragonbrand would be a kittening blast.

Pretty Pixie.8603:

zastari.1730:

Look at all these excuses for someone who won’t come out and 1v1. Wall wars sure are a lot more exciting! Quick, everyone stack on me!!! Press F to portal!!! Spam skills!!! YAY DDD

There’s a couple of reasons why I personally don’t 1v1 in WvW;

• I generally play support characters;
• I probably lack the indiviual skill of someone that has learned their class in and out, and my reaction time is that of a slightly inebriated sloth.
• Most importantly though, the general attitude of some of the posters here that are confessed duelists seem to be one of derision. Why would I participate in an activity that would likely end with sledging, derision and humiliation? If dueling is so awesome, and you want more people to participate, then it could do with better PR.

I am NOT saying that anyone IS sledging/deriding at these duels; I am saying that this is the impression that I’ve gotten. I’m also not saying that this goes for the Maguuma population in general, or any other server.

Meh, even if you don’t duel, it can be fun to watch for awhile and just chat with random people from other teams. I don’t duel sometimes because of the same thing, I’ve been playing a support guardian a lot lately. IMO if it’s skill you’re worried about, you should give it a shot anyway. Don’t tell my guild, but I am not actually a superstar player, either. It’s still fun to practice. I don’t think the derision/humiliation happens as often as you think, certainly not in a public (forum thread) setting. Even the normal trash talkers are usually pretty polite when it comes to talking about fight club.

saiyr.3071:

when it comes to talking about fight club.

Tsk tsk.

The first rule of Fight Club is…