Guild Wars 2

Why is the outmanned buff visible to enemy combatants? It provides way too much map intel on enemy troop movements. I don’t like the fact that enemies can see buffs in general, but the outmanned buff, especially.

Basically, at least in tier 1, it goes like this. Everything is pretty evenly matched. Then, we (or another server go outmanned). Within 5 minutes, that server is getting double teamed by the other 2 because – without doing any scouting or intel gathering – the other servers know you are at a disadvantage. It’s like putting a flashing red light behind another guy at a poker table to tell you when he is bluffing.

If there is a way to remove that buff from visibility on an enemy, that would be awesome. Or just remove buffs from the invader bar altogether. That would be fine with me, too.

I have to agree with white hear it has always bothered me that it:

1. Never did anything useful (Except getting no armor damage now)

2. Is visible to any force.

As a commander the out manned buff signifies OK its time to push ‘X’ team on this BL because they cannot defend themselves. I have always felt they should bring the orb buff back as out manned buff (keep no armor repairs please) and maybe bring orbs back as something useless like the old out-manned buff offering a karma and exp bonus, maybe magic find or gold find. While they were annoying and extremely overpowered when hacked they offered a fun interesting tactical advantage to fight over.

My names Juide, these messages have my approval.

Yep, I agree with this. Just yesterday evening, someone in world chat said “FS has outmanned buff”. Moments later, we took two of their towers we otherwise wouldn’t even bother attacking at that time of day because they usually have tons of people on.

Just remove it all together. It gives no real advantage anyway, it’s just another system that has no real impact on the game. All it does is make allies give up and leave, and attract the majority of foes.