Guild Wars 2

Here is another possible way out of the imbalance and coverage problem

Each server can send a team (each player decides what he want to play) to each of (just as an example, any timeslice-map combination would be possible for a match):

• 24/7 Ethernal Battlefield match
• 8/7 Ethernal Battlefield evening match
• 8/7 Borderlands night match
• 16/7 Borderlands day-evening match
• 8/7 EotM nigth match
• 8/7 EotM day match
• 8/7 EotM evening match

In this example it is a total of 7 matches available for everyone on every server. Drop the EotM overflow, EotM got it’s own time-slice matches.
The opponents in each match are determined individually and each match has it’s own leaderboard and Glicko.

However, not every server community has to choose to play all!
When you don’t have the coverage to play 24/7 or not the manpower
to play many of them, focus on a few where you are competitive and let the others empty.

If you want many fights, stay with your match-choice, if you prefer PvD over fights change your match-selection often. Stale repetitions of matches are not a problem anymore as well: just change your match-portfolio a bit.

You can assign matches for karma-train/twink-leveling or you can assign matches as your servers commander training ground. GvGs will have more choices, as there are several different matches running every week. You can talk to your opponents and assign a zerg match and a roaming match.

For the kings of manpower and coverage in WvW there can be a combined leaderboard (sum of all individual Glicko-Scores).

An “classical WVW” leaderboard would also be possible: Sum up “24/7 Ethernal Battlefield match”, “8/7 Borderlands night match” and “16/7 Borderlands day-evening match”.

Make different seasons (with all server of Na/EU) in different matches at different times, in principle there could always be a season in one of the matches, but normal play in the others.

WvW cannot be fixed. Please, do yourself a favor, and don’t let “How to fix WvW coverage problems” eat your live…

No matter what you do or what you insist, WvW coverage wont change, and it’ll be the same 24/7 than now.
BTW, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyWxsJU4InM&t=6m19s

Yeah I know and commented it already: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/So-Yeah-how-long/4361562

When you say: ANet will never fix WvW, I believe you.

When you say: WvW cannot be fixed, I strongly disagree.

To fix it, you need to redesign the idea of WvW. Because a 24/7 worldwide massive pvp map cannot be fixed, unless you eliminate the 24/7 fact, the worldwide fact, or the massive fact.

Looks like you are commenting before reading more than the first sentence.

Here is a short summary for you:

• No map is smaller than before. massiveness of PvP will be equal
• Every map is available 24/7 for every player on every server as it is today

It is just:

• By scoring everything individually and then summing up at the end, instead of summing up at the beginning, each server can pick his favored game-configuration and has a change of winning a (or several) focused aspect-match(es).
• Resulting from individual scoring and match-making, you will fight more balanced battles all around the clock.

Dayra.7405:

Looks like you are commenting before reading more than the first sentence.

Here is a short summary for you:

• No map is smaller than before. massiveness of PvP will be equal
• Every map is available 24/7 for every player on every server as it is today

It is just:

• By scoring everything individually and then summing up at the end, instead of summing up at the beginning, each server can pick his favored game-configuration and has a change of winning a (or several) focused aspect-match(es).
• Resulting from individual scoring and match-making, you will fight more balanced battles all around the clock.

No it’s not.

You are adding the scores of MULTIPLE DIFFERENT MATCH UPS not having one match up.

Oh and can you stop spamming the forums linking your own threads in 90% of your posts ?

It’s spamming and is forbidden by the terms of use of the forums. It’s the only thing you do, linking your own threads/posts over and over and over, and posting variations of the same 2/3 ideas that pretends to destroy WvW to make it “better”.

Quit the game and go play one with battlegrounds already….

So you would like to keep the

• 24/7 EB+BL

Why not, as long as it is not the only match to choose from.

Would be interesting to hear who would like to have which match(es) as his/her favoured choice

Dayra.7405:

So you would like to keep the

• 24/7 EB+BL

Why not, as long as it is not the only match to choose from.

Would be interesting to hear who would like to have which match(es) as his/her favoured choice

I’m sorry but YOU are the one wanting to get rid of a system a lot of players like and have liked for over 2 years, and destroy it to replace it with another variation of battlegrounds, not me.

I’ve said from the start i’ve got absolutely no problem with your idea… as long as you take them, and create a thread about a new mode using them (ie : battlegrounds in GW2) instead of trying to force WvW to be removed and replaced by battlegrounds.

If all i (and a lot of other players) wanted were battlegrounds we would be playing another (long list) of games you know.

All i ask is that you stop opening/creating 1 to 2 threads a day with variations of “let’s split up the matchups in multiple smaller/shorter mu without 24/7 fights(aka battlegrounds), implement debuffs to punish players from playing together, implement caps to have balanced fights and so on”, while linking to them every other post of yours.

As i already told you dozens of time, what you want is a XvsX battleground, with relatively short duration (a few hours a day, because otherwise “off peak time” will screw your little paradise) and balanced numbers all the duration of the matchups.

It’s fine with me, as long as it’s something NEW and ADDED instead of killing/removing WvW to get it, just because you don’t like WvW in reality and want something else.

Filovirus.6258:

I’m sorry but YOU are the one wanting to get rid of a system a lot of players like and have liked for over 2 years, and destroy it to replace it with another variation of battlegrounds, not me.

• A lot of former players liked it so much that they are now somewhere else.
• A lot of players like it so much that matches like it so much that never ever a match is decided on Monday morning, such that they would never have the idea to think about “hm! what should I do the rest of the week.”
• A lot of players liked it so much, that they never complained about coverage
• A lot of players liked it so much to get crushed by imbalanced man power, that they prefer not the less imbalanced EotM-train.
• A lot of players liked it so much to spend hours in WvW to do nothing then PVD, simply because they do not find each other for a fight.
• A lot of players liked it so much that they have to stack on 6 of 51 server to get some action.
• A lot of players liked the game mode as it is so much that most maps on most servers are most of the time empty.
• A lot of player like it so much that they never make thread like https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Is-Guild-Wars-2-dying/first#post4375425 ( no I did not posted there, I prefer constructive critics)

Leave it as it is and none will be outside T1 soon. Or try to save it by keeping as much as possible, and still provide all player the possibility to play.

In my view the idea o; WvW is nice, but it had a mayor design flaw from the beginning: it cannot scale with the number of people that want to play it. Leading to queues at one time and empty maps PvD by a handful people at other times. While the queues are gone now, the emptiness increased, such that every match now is only decided by best PvD strategies and fight are bad for the score.

Ah the hypocrisy and logical fallacies at it’s best….

First, taking EotM as reference of “preference” is quite funny since there is roughly 80% upscalled players there, that aren’t playing a WvW map but a train map to level up fast while gaining ressources/income.

Put the same sort of rewards in WvW (or better like EotM is compared to WvW) and they’ll flock to WvW, not EotM.
Reduce EotM rewards to WvW levels and EotM will be a ghost town.

It’s not because a mu is decided on Monday (or even on satursday) that people don’t play and don’t have fun you know, or there wouldn’t be anyone playing after Satursday on most servers on most match ups…. and yet you have really nice numbers showing up all the week, wonder why ? Ah yeah, maybe because they have fun.

Not liking being crushed due to population/coverage imbalance don’t means you don’t like a game mode and want it scrapped for yet another Battleground system.

Being unhappy with Anet doesn’t mean you are the majority either (forums posters are well known to be a real minority in all gems, under 10% of the population on average, and usually the more exigent/distraught… the 90% others couldn’t care less and don’t even think about forums).

With your “logic” (lulz) you can say that :
- Nearly all the players in WoW hated battlegrounds, because millions left
- Nearly all the players in WoW hated Raids because millions left
- Nearly all the players in WoW hated PvE/Leveling because millions left.

You are back to your silly reccurent argument using fallacies, that aren’t logic, and are totally biaised towards what YOU want to say.

They can totally be reversed btw. If you total the active WvW players in those forums there is maybe 1k players in the past 6+months…. during that time, Ten thousands of players have partaken in the game mode…. and never complained in the forums so :

Nearly all WvW players are fine with the state of WvW, far more than players that aren’t, because they aren’t complaining.

Nearly all WvW players like that some MU’s are decided on Monday because they don’t complain about it.

Nearly all WvW players like the coverage wars and population imbalance because they don’t complain about it.

A large number of players are still playing WvW after 2 years, despite the natural loss of population a 2years old game endure, meaning most WvW players are satisfied, because they don’t complain about it.

And so on and so on.

Once again, i couldn’t care less about the type of battlegrounds YOU want, ask for them all you want, and i hope you would get them, but stop trying to get a game mode REMOVED because you don’t like it and want ALL the players that actually like it punished and deprived of what they like to play so you can have something tailored to your specific petty needs and people serving your desires…..

And no, fights aren’t bad for the score, usually said fights are the thing determining the score in the following 2/3 (or more) ticks, because winning a big fight at a fortified keep means saving or losing a WP (or more) and the huge advantage it gives, for a long period of time, meaning you usually either lose or keep secondary objectives at the same time.

All your interventions proves how little you know and understand about WvW and how little you like it, so why trying to remove it ?

Do i ask for JP and Activities to be removed because it’s the most useless and dumb thing in this game in my mind ?

Nope. Some people love that, let them enjoy it.

You want Battlegrounds, ask for them, but not by destroying WvW to make it Battlegrounds, there is absolutely no reason for that, and no reason to force people who like WvW in it’s 24/7 inception to be punished because some people don’t like it.

Once again, GW2 never pretended to have battlegrounds or equivalent, nor promised they would be in game.
YOU KNEW what to expect with WvW from the start (with nearly all the imbalances known from before the beta if you had put 10 mins to read info on it and had even the slightest idea of what RvR/FvF and Long Duration Battlegrounds are, and what population imbalance means, and what a 3 way means too), so why try to destroy it to implement in it’s stead something that never was even talked about as a “potentiality” for GW2 because in the end you don’t like WvW ???

The scoring in wvw can’t be fixed it requires a complete overhaul of wvw. If ppt is how u want to play you have to be in tier 1 or 2 to have consistent equally match ups. I can understand some people’s problem with the scoring. I use to play for ppt. It drove me crazy to the point I had to quit wvw. I have since been able to just let the score b and return to wvw.

Spam this idea more, I never get tired of the same idea being recycled by you every 3 days.

Thing just is that www is casual game mode where you can farm moas, craft gear and roleplay inside tower. If you want hardcore battles you should go EotM.