Guild Wars 2

Please, make the map rotation more random, not decided by the chart, or at least separate the WvW map complation from the PvE.

As you probably know, the matchups, tha allocation of the borderlands and the relative colors depend on a chart, this one http://mos.millenium.org/matchups

I’m from Ring of Fire server, and as you can see from the history (here: http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/histories ) we have NEVER been owners of the blue color borderland (the east one) since the first week after the reset, 17 weeks ago. Again, 17 weeks.
We always go from green to red, and if you study it a little bit more carefully, it’s just IMPOSSIBLE for my server to own the blue borderland. It would require us to be 20th or 23rd, but at this point the difference in the chart between the servers is too hight. We will simply keep going from last of the 7th tier to first of the 8th tier, making almost impossible for some of us to get some pois and vistas in the East (blue) borderland.

Simply conquer it? Impossible.
It would require a manpower that our server doesn’t have, not in a foreign borderland at least.

The only way to get 100% map completion for me would be to PAY to change server 2 times (so around 20 dollars).

This seems a scam. ANet makes that is impossible for my server to get that map, so I have to pay ANet to get my last 4 Points of Interest.

Please, make the map rotation more random, not decided by the chart, or at least separate the WvW map complation from the PvE.

They have stated they will be rotating colors. Just not ready to implement it yet.

CreativeAnarchy.6324:

They have stated they will be rotating colors. Just not ready to implement it yet.

Thanks for your reply. Do you have the source?

given that i got my 100% map completion on ring of fire and my ele got wvw map completion on ring of fire also and the ele where in the time frame of the 17 weeks you mentiont

let me gess your not playing alot of wvw given that you did not know that in the last GH/DZ/RoF matchup RoF had DZ garrision at one point. it where also in that matchup that RoF pushed DZ down a tier with the help from GH(tho no ally between the two servers).

if they remove wvw from map completion then i want a few cool legendarys that needs wvw map completion without any borring pve maps needed

Kidel.2057:

CreativeAnarchy.6324:

They have stated they will be rotating colors. Just not ready to implement it yet.

Thanks for your reply. Do you have the source?

No but there is a post from within the last week or two, maybe three. Check a few pages back about similar subject about map rotation. You’ll find one of those red flags on the post.

you can’t blame me for not chacking every hour and every day for 1 poi lol.

Instead of checking why not go take it or help in taking it. It’s not “impossible”. I’ve taken keeps with 5 and another time with 9 people in the past matchup. Granted they were RoF keeps :p
The dzag keep i took with 13 people on friday, fully upgraded.

We tried today, but it’s not easy. And that’s not the point here.

Some servers have it easier, since the first positions tend to vary more often and people get to own every map in a sort of rotation.

On Ring of Fire we have never been blue for 17 weeks, so our situation is different.

I do and I don’t get this frustration. There are some servers in some tiers (mainly top and bottom) who probably really do have a tough time. But I don’t get why WvW map completion, which already has a far, far fewer number of PoIs than PvE, needs to be easy! It seems PvE’ers just want to get the WvW bit over with quickly, but WvW focused players have no such option!

And RoF tiered up only 2 weeks ago and may be top dog in your tier again next week You are not stuck permanently in a tier where you cannot compete and capture other keeps.

You have one more option, start attacking Dzagonur instead of having people screw around in RoS bl all the time ^^
If you’re succesful you can be blue next week.

I don’t need RoF to be top in the tier, i need it to be middle, but that’s impossible. The difference now is too much.

Also I’m a wvw player with a decent amount of badges at the moment. I usually spend some time in wvw, regardless of map completion. But I only need this one garrison, and we weren’t able to take it for weeks. Why my map completion should dependo on something like that?

ALSO at the beginning the map rotation was random, now it depends on the tier. Before it was possible to own the blue map for us, we just needed to wait. Now it’s simply impossible (not my opinion, it’s math).

That’s my situation now:

Being blue makes it easy of course, but if you dominate your tier you should win blue keeps at some times during the week (and even if not). I get your pain, RoS had not been blue for a long time when I was trying for map completion. I was missing Durios, Bravost and Valley for a few weeks, but then in the early hours one day we captured them all and the job was done!

A sense of achievement instead of an easy inevitability, if we had been blue

(But, anyway, as the other poster said, it looks like Anet plan to rotate colours in future anyway).

You don’t need to be first, you just need to have more points than dzag.

I’m not sure if RoF is impossible. Now Eredon Terrace, THAT’S IMPOSSIBLE! I transferred last week to Sorrow’s Furnace, who looked to be 15K ahead of Darkhaven at the time. I figured that way I could finish green poi’s the next week.. but Darkhaven decided that wasn’t going to happen(hard) and so once again I’m on the red side. I’m not saying it should be easy but it seems silly that someone battling it out in WvWvW for months still can’t get map comp. yet someone lucky enough to be on a server that moves up and down in the tier just waltzes through and gets map comp. without even breaking a sweat. For an individual achievement, my opinion is that it’s way too dependent on how many people play WvWvW on your server and how well they perform. I’m just going to have to wait it out because I’m not getting bilked for another transfer just for a superfluous little star by my name.

Kidel.2057:

The only way to get 100% map completion for me would be to PAY to change server 2 times (so around 20 dollars).

This seems a scam. ANet makes that is impossible for my server to get that map, so I have to pay ANet to get my last 4 Points of Interest.

I have already asked this to other people complaining about completion, never got my answer: why don’t you buy the gems for these two transfers with gold? Why is world completion so important to you? The only reason I can find is for the Gifts of Exploration… which are for legendary weapons, which cost so much gold that the 40g required for the transfer are nothing compared to that.

FYI, keeps flip a lot during resets, did you try your chance at those times?

it would be like 56g for 1 poi and 2 vistas…

Ilesyt.7084:

Instead of checking why not go take it or help in taking it. It’s not “impossible”. I’ve taken keeps with 5 and another time with 9 people in the past matchup. Granted they were RoF keeps :p
The dzag keep i took with 13 people on friday, fully upgraded.

I will say, getting them isn’t always easy.

I had 2 left for my first character, since got them. One of them was the poi and vista, in overlook. Some objectives are very difficult to just get a group and take.

I managed to get mine after we lost enough rating to end up red.

Every alt I have I got every WvW poi or vista that is behind a door that isn’t briar or lake whenever we gained or lost rating to change color.

Kidel.2057:

it would be like 56g for 1 poi and 2 vistas…

It would be 56g for world completion. What is that worth, for you?

But I am glad we agree: world completion is possible, it costs a bit of gold though.

people in some servers don’t need to spend them, because their server situation allows a balanced rotation between maps.

so some people have advantages compared to others depending on their server.

why shoild i spend 56g when some people just have to wait? the situation in RoF now makes simply IMPOSSIBLE (it’s math) to get the blue borderland from the start.

not event talking about server power here.

Yeah, the fact it is easy for some and impossible for others does make it a poor system and Anet are changing it. There are several posts on this, but this was in the last week

We are currently in the process of taking some steps to alleviate this. Both on the stagnant match side and on the server color side.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Current-System-hampers-World-Completion/1975221/report/new

But I still say none of this really affects RoF (unless the argument is that these POIs should just be trivially easy). You have been and will shortly probably be again, the top server in your tier and in that position your server will have ample opportunity to capture these POIs, even if at odd times of the day.

kidel from the looks of it you are a pve player that whants hes legendary or have a very bad memory as i have given times where RoF had blue keep within a few weeks span but you still claim 17 weeks.
and i know for a fact that rof has had it more then the one time i just mentiont given that i help them take it a few times but that just shows that your not a wvw player else you would know who i’am given that i commanden a hell of a lot before i moved to a new server

Kidel.2057:

Simply conquer it? Impossible.
It would require a manpower that our server doesn’t have, not in a foreign borderland at least.

Well the ‘impossible’ was just acheived…..
Hope you were online

Yeah you guys took it from us :p

So basically, this post is another pver who doesn’t want to actually put in any effort to get world completion, yet someone on your own server apparently got world completion done within the same time period as you. This is why pvers are frowned upon by many wvwers. They expect to be given items with very little effort. Yet, the wvwer has to work about 5 times harder to get the same items.

Kidel and Kodel, lmao