Mass transfer to low tier = exploit?

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Posted by: TyPin.9860

TyPin.9860

I was thinking, if I should write that post or not. But I think it must be said, without really wanting to get major bans for those who did it.

When a big guild, or even an alliance transfers to a low tier server, can that be viewed as an exploit? I mean here those ppl make use of an non intended function that leads to major advantages of them over others (yes transfers are kind of intended, but as stated several times by ANet, it was not intended in such an extend and therefor they are pushing forward the pay-to-transfer-function). They not only smash the low tier servers and get bonuses for themselves and the server they have transfered to. They also can farm events in seconds, they can farm the low numbers of players that try to stand against them.

I imagine a method for such guilds like:

  1. overrun WvW maps
  2. now make some dungeons or stuff
  3. come back and overrun WvW map again
  4. make some dungeons
    … and so on.

While the low populated servers struggle and need quite some time to take a tower or keep, the now dominating server just comes back with its zerg and overruns everything in seconds. That can not be an intended mechanism. And it leads to unfair advantages.

So the question stands: Is this an exploit?

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Posted by: Adaneshade.2409

Adaneshade.2409

Actually, no quite the opposite. ANet encourages guilds to transfer off of higher population (high tier) severs to lower ones. This will be further reinforced once paid transfers start as it will be cheaper to transfer to a lower pop server than to a high pop server.

~Shadowkat

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Posted by: TyPin.9860

TyPin.9860

Did they announce that? That would be kitten awful…

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Posted by: Adaneshade.2409

Adaneshade.2409

~Shadowkat

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Posted by: Ilesyt.7084

Ilesyt.7084

That’s a nice blue keep you got ther typin, can I haz ?

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Posted by: TyPin.9860

TyPin.9860

hm… me no like that part with the: less population, less gem cost…

That really encourages the transfer to low population servers.

However, low populated must not always mean low tier. So the transfer to a low tier server, to use the “exploit”, must not necessarily be supported by the transfer cost system.

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Posted by: TyPin.9860

TyPin.9860

That’s a nice blue keep you got ther typin, can I haz ?

We slaughtered on monday a group with the [DEX] tag… not impressed dude

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Posted by: Ilesyt.7084

Ilesyt.7084

I would slaughter more NOON if I ever saw it more than once a week :p

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Posted by: Adaneshade.2409

Adaneshade.2409

Actually, the tier a server is in is DIRECTLY correlated to their active WvW population. I know there isn’t a static ratio across all servers of WvW players to PvE/sPvPers, but the discrepancy can’t be so much as to completely negate the validity of that statement.

There is no “skilled” server vs “unskilled”. Players are generally equally “skilled” within their gameplay meta.

Sure, comparing a duelist/solo roamer to a zergling in single combat would make things seem to indicate one server was more skilled than the other; but name one server that doesn’t have both zerglings and roamers.

~Shadowkat

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Posted by: Niadon.9270

Niadon.9270

-_- WvW guilds transfer for different reasons, but until the majority of people who face the topic are players pve or WVW casual, there won’t possibility of an objective discourse, regardless of whether a WVW semiharcore or hardcore player, whatever he says, is always wrong.
Never thought that the exploit is do it by the bandwagoning of PvE guilds that using a server driven up by guilds WvW, they move up untill flood the server? And is worst, because as non-pve player, u don’t enter in the pve area, so you don’t have the real perception about how many guilds are came, untill is too late.
Sometime people shoud try to see also from the other side, but is always inconvenient do it for own purposes.

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Posted by: Devitz.2136

Devitz.2136

Greetings dear FoW players!
First of all I would like to apologise for the whole situation because you became a victim of Blacktide alliance war. It will soon be finished and we will move to higher tiers.
Its not about numbers, just about quality of players and teamplay. Ofc our numbers are higher but still…
To the topic – transfering is a part of this game. Believe me, half of servers rising to higher tiers would never get that high without creating multi national alliances. Unfortunately some servers are getting stomped because of this

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Posted by: Niim.9260

Niim.9260

I think the transfer crowd does more damage to their host servers in the long run, then the servers they end up beating because of the transfers. While it is all great while your winning, eventually those transfers move on and leave behind a server now higher in rank then it should be, and likely pulling a lot of the previous community with it when they go.

~ AoN ~

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Posted by: Setch.2398

Setch.2398

It is frustrating being on a server that a large guild decides to bail on. HoD was an extreme example and it was terrible. I can’t really forgive TA (more than 1 guild) for treating it’s militia like that and leaving us to rot a slow death. I would have stayed if it had been a quick drop in tiers but it wasn’t.

SOR – [Boss]

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Posted by: Catisa.6507

Catisa.6507

transfer guilds ruin wvw for everyone involved other then their ego driven selves. I’ve been on both sides sides of an unbalanced match-up, holding it all or holding none, either way its boring as hell.

AR

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Posted by: Mishi.7058

Mishi.7058

Well guild transfers have taken WvW from having 1 tier where there was decent coverage, well above all others. (5hr queues) and lessened it, while at the same time for the most part allowing other tiers to fill out, and become more competitive.

Sur eyou had fair weather players and bandwagon players hopping to “winning” servers. Though you also had many guild from “winning” servers leaving to go to other servers.

Let me guess, this is about Kaineng?

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Posted by: Crunchy Gremlin.5798

Crunchy Gremlin.5798

yeah once the transfers cost money this will be so good for the community. imagine if you will that all of the servers are actively competing for first place.

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Posted by: Ilesyt.7084

Ilesyt.7084

Lol no, This is about Vabbi and most of all Ruins of Surmia :p

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