Guild Wars 2

Those three are the only viable classes for 1-3 player roaming, but every class can do something useful in larger fights.

Oh please, zerg fights are pure AoE spam. Thieves and mesmers would be dead meat. Stealth and clones don’t do too much when everywhere you’re standing is in a meteor shower. All the classes you mentioned are roaming, duelist classes, which the exception of a elementalist.

mesmer in a zerg usually function as a support class, well, at least that’s the way i play it. glamour confusion field ftw !

Blix.8021:

Thobek.1730:

you just named the 3 assassin classes. They are all fragile classes which using kiting and trickery to negate damage.

I will admit though that the stealth ability on the mesmer and thief is complete BS. I don’t have a thief but I do play a mesmer and it feels cheap. At least with mistform you know where they are going. Why Anet hasn’t allowed people to knock players out of stealth is mental. At least reward the player for guessing right.

good luck trying to ‘assassinate’ anything on a d/d bunker ele

what? roaming D/D ele are great 1v1. I guess you’re talking about burst damage. They aren’t at the same level as thieves or shatter mesmers but they do ok with their combo.

azizul.8469:

mesmer in a zerg usually function as a support class, well, at least that’s the way i play it. glamour confusion field ftw !

Doomdesire.9365:

Oh please, zerg fights are pure AoE spam. Thieves and mesmers would be dead meat. Stealth and clones don’t do too much when everywhere you’re standing is in a meteor shower. All the classes you mentioned are roaming, duelist classes, which the exception of a elementalist.

Mesmers are Zerg busters if spec’d right. The AE Confusion Mesmer can do a lot of damage to a Zerg.

style.6173:

Finally a good thread! Oh, and in addition to ele/mesmer/thief, let me also add the following:

Guard
Warrior
Engi
Ranger

Now if we could ever get all 7 of those classes into one zerg we would totally be unstoppable!

sigh

(meanwhile, all necros go cry in a corner. T_T)

Doomdesire.9365:

Oh please, zerg fights are pure AoE spam. Thieves and mesmers would be dead meat. Stealth and clones don’t do too much when everywhere you’re standing is in a meteor shower. All the classes you mentioned are roaming, duelist classes, which the exception of a elementalist.

AoE spam only gets people on low health, after that they move to the back of the zerg and recover. A thief can do very well lurking behind the enemy zerg and ganking anyone who runs to the back with 20% health. Mesmers can AoE spam effectively with the right build.

Oglaf.1074:

How is it a troll thread? I asked a question based on my observations. I’ve yet to see a post arguing for, for example, the viability of Necromancers. You really don’t need any other classes, heck if it weren’t for porting Golems, Mesmers wouldn’t be vital either.

Well..your argueing that a class that has a way to run away..ran away…..

Sorry but in WvW we dont need people to play tag and run away, we need people that can man siege, hold the line ( lol), and push.

something those professions can not do as well as the heavy armor class.

Their is a reason you dont see a mes,thief, or ele using siege or in the front lines tanking.

DarthBenedict.3410:

Doomdesire.9365:

Oh please, zerg fights are pure AoE spam. Thieves and mesmers would be dead meat. Stealth and clones don’t do too much when everywhere you’re standing is in a meteor shower. All the classes you mentioned are roaming, duelist classes, which the exception of a elementalist.

AoE spam only gets people on low health, after that they move to the back of the zerg and recover. A thief can do very well lurking behind the enemy zerg and ganking anyone who runs to the back with 20% health. Mesmers can AoE spam effectively with the right build.

Apparently GS4, Staff5 and two shatters are AoE spam now. Mesmer has very few AoE options. You could consider sword AoE but it CQ, so I don’t think that’s what you were talking about. Anyway, mesmer “AoE spam” would look nothing like an elem.

ErlendR.6107:

I saw a mesmer take down like 6-7 enemies (with a little help of my), but in any case, 7, SEVEN, come on man, i left the game 6 weeks, and now im back and see that, is just wtf

Was probably 2-7 upleveled noobs. Nothing to see here.

SteepledHat.1345:

Apparently GS4, Staff5 and two shatters are AoE spam now. Mesmer has very few AoE options. You could consider sword AoE but it CQ, so I don’t think that’s what you were talking about. Anyway, mesmer “AoE spam” would look nothing like an elem.

With the right traits, null field and feedback put lots of confusion on anything that goes through them.

Oglaf.1074:

Please.

What do these three Professions have in common?

Cheap escapes. They can tank just as well, if not muuuuch better, than a Warrior/Guardian by simply jumping in and out of an enemy zerg unmolested.

You missed his point. You can’t get all evasive when manning a Ram of any siege so if your caught you’re defenseless.

Thobek.1730:

Blix.8021:

Thobek.1730:

you just named the 3 assassin classes. They are all fragile classes which using kiting and trickery to negate damage.

I will admit though that the stealth ability on the mesmer and thief is complete BS. I don’t have a thief but I do play a mesmer and it feels cheap. At least with mistform you know where they are going. Why Anet hasn’t allowed people to knock players out of stealth is mental. At least reward the player for guessing right.

good luck trying to ‘assassinate’ anything on a d/d bunker ele

what? roaming D/D ele are great 1v1. I guess you’re talking about burst damage. They aren’t at the same level as thieves or shatter mesmers but they do ok with their combo.

Bunker eles… Yes, they are good 1v1 because they can out last opponents 1v1 using movement and heals, despite hitting like a wet noodle. In a big fight they can take a beating, but are more a distraction than anything when dancing around in the back lines. They do draw attention from people that actually do damage though.

Some serious underrating of mesmers’ combat ability in this thread. Support class my kitten. Sounds like some groups don’t know how to use mesmer bombs well. They’re the highest burst class in the game while keeping insanely high survivability.

@ the OP, the necro is the mesmers best friend.

OP needs to get organized with a group over voip. No organized group actually trying to win objectives is going to want a thief on a ram or siege over a warrior or a guardian.

The problem is people see enemy and turn into a bull and want to go kill. Those classes you named are good at distracting/annoying people and for some reason people love to try to kill those 3 classes. 1 thief or ele passed by a zerg and like 15 people will break off to try to kill it. Leaving the zerg to get steam rolled by the opposing zerg that now has more numbers while 15 people chase a ele, thief, or mesmer around.