Guild Wars 2

Granted we had 10 or so weeks to complete the living world achievement, it has been so difficult for me as a casual WvW player to get these achievements done. I am a very well rounded player, as I play spvp, run dungeons/fractals and do open world pve. I try to play 2-3 hours a day (some with more, others with none).

My first obstacle is the que, some nights I wait up to an hour to get onto a map, and by then I don’t have time to get much done, some nights nothing.

Second obstacle, state of the match. I play for JQ and except for the 3 weeks we faced BG WvW has been pretty dull, we’d cap almost everything in the first night. The rest of the weeks there is little resistance and the map I’d be on would either be full of enemeies and no JQ or we’d own as much as we can. As for other matches, I’m sure there are times when no one on your server is pushing on your map and you can’t even make an effort to make progress on the achievements.

Third obstacle, going for achievements by actually WvWing. WvW is a lot of busy work, most of the time is spent fighting off zergs in the field, attempting to take a tower or preparing an offense/defense. An entire night can be spent in WvW where nothing but camps gets flipped and its a war between zergs; 5 hours spent in WvW & barely any achievement progress

A question is, are they extending the duration for completing the achievement to go on past the first season? I like the difficulty of the achievements, and I wouldn’t ask to reduce the number but I honestly can’t complete some of these with the way WvW is set up and I think there are others out there.

Thank you for reading

I say, don’t worry, Anet has the stats, they know how many folks completed which of the achievements and how many were uncompleted by the masses. It is very obvious the jump puzzles except for EB’s where the easiest with the Castle Take in EB a close second, what only 5 times or was it 4? It would flip that many times in a single night.

Obviously, killing Dolyack’s and the wall one on JQ where probably the most difficult and I would say probably the least completed of the achievement quests with sentry and camps being the next most annoying. Yes, JQ was lucky cause we had weeks of zero real effort to concentrate on taking camps and sentry points, but Dolyak’s died so quickly you often never got a chance to tag them.

Anyway, Anet will adjust for season 2, whenever that occurs.

Honestly, I hope they don’t extend the time or make it easier.

This living story achievement group was for the WvW orientated players and it was much needed.

For people that play primarily WvW, having to leave that environment to go play PvE for the achievements is much more of a hassle, so having our own version at the same time was rather refreshing. Keep in mind that PvE players have had 2-3 living story achievement groups in the time that we’ve had this one season.

Plus, for players that play WvW for an hour or so a day, it wasn’t too difficult to complete the meta, I play a few hours a day and managed to complete the meta in less than a week (had to keep my lovely key locked away for 6 weeks!)

Whilst I am on a lower populated server and queues not being an issue for me, some of the matchups prevented me from capturing SM and doing some of the other things that would award achievements (I say “would have” because I had completed them all in the first week when it was an easy matchup) so I can see why it would be difficult for some, but 7 weeks was more than enough time to complete the meta if people focused on it.

I want a title of its own for the merc camp achievement given that there were only 3 in eb (bl’s were replaced by bloodlust) only 2 were really feasible to cap solo / small party roaming and there were 50 of them (which i did over a few day period) and really that’s numerically 100 if you end up flipping it back to neutral then capping.

I think the only ones I had to go out and get last week were yaks, guards, ruins and merc camps, I got everything else just by playing.

Steve Whitley.8359:

I want a title of its own for the merc camp achievement given that there were only 3 in eb (bl’s were replaced by bloodlust) only 2 were really feasible to cap solo / small party roaming and there were 50 of them (which i did over a few day period) and really that’s numerically 100 if you end up flipping it back to neutral then capping.

I think the only ones I had to go out and get last week were yaks, camps, guards, and merc camps, I got everything else just by playing.

Haha, amusingly that’s the one achievement I didn’t even bother with, it seemed like too much of a waste of time. I decided to spend that time taking towers, keeps, camps, zerging, sentry killing, dolyak butchering…

That and sentries, I’m about 12 off from doing that one, probably finish it by the end of the week, but since I got the key there isn’t any pressure.

This thread made me laugh today. Thanks.

psizone.8437:

Haha, amusingly that’s the one achievement I didn’t even bother with, it seemed like too much of a waste of time. I decided to spend that time taking towers, keeps, camps, zerging, sentry killing, dolyak butchering…

That and sentries, I’m about 12 off from doing that one, probably finish it by the end of the week, but since I got the key there isn’t any pressure.

i’m not about to do a jumping puzzle tho O.o never been to OS, never will

psizone.8437:

Steve Whitley.8359:

I want a title of its own for the merc camp achievement given that there were only 3 in eb (bl’s were replaced by bloodlust) only 2 were really feasible to cap solo / small party roaming and there were 50 of them (which i did over a few day period) and really that’s numerically 100 if you end up flipping it back to neutral then capping.

I think the only ones I had to go out and get last week were yaks, camps, guards, and merc camps, I got everything else just by playing.

Haha, amusingly that’s the one achievement I didn’t even bother with, it seemed like too much of a waste of time. I decided to spend that time taking towers, keeps, camps, zerging, sentry killing, dolyak butchering…

That and sentries, I’m about 12 off from doing that one, probably finish it by the end of the week, but since I got the key there isn’t any pressure.

You’re actually doing dolyak and sentries? Man, even the merc camp would be easier than nailing 200 dolyaks.
I wish they didn’t attach a chest to that one. I will forever be slightly annoyed.

Merc, sent, and dolyaks were the three I decided to not even try for. I even ended up getting Demolisher on accident and I’m still 150 dolyaks away from completion!

I dont know, most camps I hit roaming will have 2 yaks in it, so you hit that you get 2 yaks right there, its exponential. 50 camps over the past 2 weeks is 100 yaks without even hitting the ones between towers. if you take long enough to cap it (solo / small party) 1 or 2 more may even pop up doubling that figure.

when i went to finish up that one i only had to kill a few more. it wasn’t totally unmanageable.

Steve Whitley.8359:

psizone.8437:

Haha, amusingly that’s the one achievement I didn’t even bother with, it seemed like too much of a waste of time. I decided to spend that time taking towers, keeps, camps, zerging, sentry killing, dolyak butchering…

That and sentries, I’m about 12 off from doing that one, probably finish it by the end of the week, but since I got the key there isn’t any pressure.

i’m not about to do a jumping puzzle tho O.o never been to OS, never will

Apart from one jump puzzle where a server spent an entire day camping it, the JPs took me less than an hour to do (all 3, the 4th took me a day, technically)

Cottontail.8526:

You’re actually doing dolyak and sentries? Man, even the merc camp would be easier than nailing 200 dolyaks.
I wish they didn’t attach a chest to that one. I will forever be slightly annoyed.

Merc, sent, and dolyaks were the three I decided to not even try for. I even ended up getting Demolisher on accident and I’m still 150 dolyaks away from completion!

The dolyak one was surprisingly easy, took a couple of days, probably would have been faster if I had used my ranger (perfect for soloing camps)

I haven’t done the sentry one mainly because I kept forgetting about it, usually I don’t bother with sentries unless I’m in a zerg and they wander into it. (not too often)

Steve Whitley.8359:

psizone.8437:

Haha, amusingly that’s the one achievement I didn’t even bother with, it seemed like too much of a waste of time. I decided to spend that time taking towers, keeps, camps, zerging, sentry killing, dolyak butchering…

That and sentries, I’m about 12 off from doing that one, probably finish it by the end of the week, but since I got the key there isn’t any pressure.

i’m not about to do a jumping puzzle tho O.o never been to OS, never will

In almost a year of playing I had never done the JPs in WvW. I actually had to corner two lovely souls to portal me up because I can’t jump to save my life

Well I’m almost exclusively WvW and a evening player and just could not wait the ques so was barred from the achievements maybe they should add waiting in ques as an achievement.

I think they are just a little bit conflicty. There are no achievements for defending for example. I saw plenty of cases where people asked if we could let SM get taken so we could take it back.

Sentry and camp capping achievements lead to people running ahead of/away from their commander to go do their own thing.

If it were up to me I would:

Trim camps to 50
Trim yaks and sentries to 100
Increase kills to 1000

DarkWasp.7291:

I think they are just a little bit conflicty. There are no achievements for defending for example. I saw plenty of cases where people asked if we could let SM get taken so we could take it back.

Sentry and camp capping achievements lead to people running ahead of/away from their commander to go do their own thing.

If it were up to me I would:

Trim camps to 50
Trim yaks and sentries to 100
Increase kills to 1000

This right here. It’s far harder to get the yaks and sentries due to how easy it is for somebody else to kill them and then flip the sentry point or cap, and then you have to wait for somebody to flip them to enemy force just to get them done again. Over the entire season, I know only a handful of people who have even gotten those done.

DarkWasp.7291:

Trim camps to 50
Trim yaks and sentries to 100
Increase kills to 1000

I’d leave the camp, dolyaks and sentries, increase invader kills to 1000 sounds good.

Adding to that, they already have events for defending towers/keeps etc, so it shouldn’t be too hard to add “Defend towers and keeps 300 times” as an achievement.

On the queue issue, was it not free to transfer to a medium population server? I know a lot of people wouldn’t transfer because of server pride and other reasons, but the option to change so that you don’t have to queue was there.

Being a casual PvE player, I found it really hard to complete the past two patches and actually didn’t manage to finish the meta achievement for either. However I don’t expect them to extend the time or cater for me.

Why should it work the other way round?

None of the WvW achievements have been short so why would the living story there be any different. I didn’t like the merc camp achievement cause I don’t like to do EB. Some of my guild had the meta done the first week. I hardly ever do any of the other living story because it usually involves doing a five man dungeon over and over to find all the extras.

I felt the achievements were too easy. I completed the meta in under 3 days. Meanwhile I struggle with the other living story PvE achievements to get them done in time.

The only gripe I have is with the mercenary camps as I feel those really required artificial play. When you have queues you really should be doing what helps your server, not what gets your achievements done. And the merc camps are very close to useless.

The main issue is that season 1 achievements were listed under the Living World tab. These achievements really weren’t designed for players like the OP. They should have just been listed under the WvW tab. As WvW players, the old achievements are nearly impossible to get (certain ones would take almost 20 years to complete) so these new ones are for WvW players to obtain. They’re not for PvE players, or sPvP players, they are WvW.

I personally don’t think you should expect rewards and achievement points for a game mode you don’t play seriously. I am wolf rank in sPvP and I only play it once in a while, I don’t think I’m entitled to those achievement points….

NargofWoV.4267:

I say, don’t worry, Anet has the stats, they know how many folks completed which of the achievements and how many were uncompleted by the masses. It is very obvious the jump puzzles except for EB’s where the easiest with the Castle Take in EB a close second, what only 5 times or was it 4? It would flip that many times in a single night.

I dunno, I don’t really play in EBG, so I don’t have the SMC caps or Mercs done. I have every other achievement complete, though. I guess I could try to get some SMC caps this week, or farm merc flips. Not overly enamoured about doing either of those though.

WhiteAndMilky.2514:

The main issue is that season 1 achievements were listed under the Living World tab. These achievements really weren’t designed for players like the OP. They should have just been listed under the WvW tab. As WvW players, the old achievements are nearly impossible to get (certain ones would take almost 20 years to complete) so these new ones are for WvW players to obtain. They’re not for PvE players, or sPvP players, they are WvW.

I personally don’t think you should expect rewards and achievement points for a game mode you don’t play seriously. I am wolf rank in sPvP and I only play it once in a while, I don’t think I’m entitled to those achievement points….

That would be fine in a game such as WoW, i.e. the best raiders have the top raid gear and the best pvp’ers have the gladiator mounts. This is GW2, where everyone should be capable of achieving everything. If ANET wants to make an achievement section solely for the hardcore WVW community, then they will need to make achievements for the hardcore PVE and SPVP community.

& When I play WvW I play it very seriously, that’s why I contribute myself to the zerg or havoc group that needs me and not trying to spike the guard/yak/lord that will give me achievement points.

For killing guards, right now, I would need to sit in a borderland and just farm guards outside an enemy tower. Granted a zerg doesn’t come by and pick me off, That’s still kitten ton of guards I need to kill because my build doesn’t allow me to get more than 1 hit on a guard before they drop when I run with a zerg.

As for yak’s, I rarely get to a yak before the zerg gets to it if I’m running with them. Therefore, its more beneficial for me to kill yak’s on my own and for many people they too prefer to yak hunt in groups or on their own. The number of people farming yak’s greatly exceeds the number of yak’s unless you are playing at the dead of night which won’t exist if you play on a server with oceanic as well.

adamryason.9817:

WhiteAndMilky.2514:

The main issue is that season 1 achievements were listed under the Living World tab. These achievements really weren’t designed for players like the OP. They should have just been listed under the WvW tab. As WvW players, the old achievements are nearly impossible to get (certain ones would take almost 20 years to complete) so these new ones are for WvW players to obtain. They’re not for PvE players, or sPvP players, they are WvW.

I personally don’t think you should expect rewards and achievement points for a game mode you don’t play seriously. I am wolf rank in sPvP and I only play it once in a while, I don’t think I’m entitled to those achievement points….

That would be fine in a game such as WoW, i.e. the best raiders have the top raid gear and the best pvp’ers have the gladiator mounts. This is GW2, where everyone should be capable of achieving everything. If ANET wants to make an achievement section solely for the hardcore WVW community, then they will need to make achievements for the hardcore PVE and SPVP community.

& When I play WvW I play it very seriously, that’s why I contribute myself to the zerg or havoc group that needs me and not trying to spike the guard/yak/lord that will give me achievement points.

For killing guards, right now, I would need to sit in a borderland and just farm guards outside an enemy tower. Granted a zerg doesn’t come by and pick me off, That’s still kitten ton of guards I need to kill because my build doesn’t allow me to get more than 1 hit on a guard before they drop when I run with a zerg.

As for yak’s, I rarely get to a yak before the zerg gets to it if I’m running with them. Therefore, its more beneficial for me to kill yak’s on my own and for many people they too prefer to yak hunt in groups or on their own. The number of people farming yak’s greatly exceeds the number of yak’s unless you are playing at the dead of night which won’t exist if you play on a server with oceanic as well.

That’s just the thing though, for a WvW player, these achievements were nothing. The ones that took the longest were dolyak, and sentry. I finished those in week 3, the rest I finished week 1. It seemed to me that you kind of want to get the achievements without playing WvW for them. That’s like me asking for dungeon achievements when I don’t play dungeons, or fractals, or world bosses. You’re not forced to get WvW achievements, they are there if you want them. If you really want them, then que up like everyone else and get them, they are not difficult to get.

We’ve had the same WvW achievements for over a year until seasons, know how many of them most people completed? TWO. One is for spending 10 supply, and the other for using 10 on siege. None of the others are even close to being finished. After more than a year of play! You should enjoy what you were able to get, and if you had cared enough you would have finished the rest without much effort. If you don’t get them, then tough luck, if you don’t WvW, no achievements!

All of the achievements could be gathered from normal WvW play except for obviously the jumping puzzles. Casual players have been able to complete this achievement by doing it just a couple hours a night. Knocking down doors was easy if you only auto-attacked with your #1 skill (no other skills) or were in a group.

The only thing that I had to waste time farming were the merc camps but that wasn’t too difficult. You only needed to rez one npc or kill one enemy npc to get credit. It didn’t matter if you succeeded the event or not.

I had all of the season 1 achievements except for merc camps completed by the middle of week 2… The only ones I had to go out of my way to do was the jumping puzzles, the ruins and big spender (since there was nothing I particularly needed I just bought some extra supply traps). Combined those all took not much more than an hour though. Everything else came without even tracking or targeting specific achievements during natural course of play.

i got all the achievement with chest reward on the 3rd day since season 1 launch and got the key by the end of week 1, i don’t even zerg so i dont think the achievement is hard

The achievements seem designed to encourage offensive play only. If you run in zergs and havoc groups its relatively easy to complete. If you play a more defensive role, then it becomes a much more tedious grind.

Wow too many zergers here. Try roaming sometime

I have it opposite of you guys, sentry, dolyak and camps were some of the first I got. I didn’t like tower/keep achieves because I had to go out of my way to get those.

I’ve actually found the Stonemist Castle achievement the hardest to get, first because I’m often not with our Eternal Battlegrounds force when it takes it but also because I’ve been standing in the circle when we took it and not gotten credit for it. I’d have the achievement already if I’d gotten credit for every capture I’d been involved in.

Next time they can just make it 30 wvw levels, nothing else, job done, or better yet leave it out entirely.

Then they can concentrate on fixing the current crop of achievements so they grant decent titles for each tier, and make them so they are achievable in less than 20 years…

Each wvw rank should reward achievement points, and to be even vaguely comparable to pve rewards each rank up should given a minimum of two golds, with a very good chance of exotics and 2-3g.

I got this kitten over with in about a week.; and I got all of them. Albeit I was on a T3 server so I didn’t encounter many cues. I roamed solo most of the time. Never joined a group. The thing to know is which achi is easiest to get on which map. Some of them were boring as hell but at least I made a kittenload of Xp and cash.